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Sarah
Jun 12, 2024 9:43:44 GMT -5
Post by chicagogg on Jun 12, 2024 9:43:44 GMT -5
And Bueckers, Fudd, Arnold and Cheli are all able to play the point if needed. I don't think Chen was brought in to play a specific position but in large part for her experience and her maturity. No. Fudd and Cheli are not here to play PG. Sure lots of players can play lots of different positions if needed, i.e. injuries (like Bueckers at the 4). But that's not why they were brought here. BUT Chen was brought in to play the point. Geno doesn't want Bueckers playing the point specifically. She's too good a scorer. Sure Geno likes players who can play lots of different positions. He can mix and match people. As an example, some years Geno has a specific person he like to bring off the bench first. But he doesn't necessarily limit himself to what position he subs off. Players just rotate around. So while Chen may end up (some possessions) playing the 2 or 3, her main position is going to be the point. Look at it this way, Chen is basically Muhl's replacement. (offensively at least)Meyers - the voice of reason! Amen on this!
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Sarah
Jun 12, 2024 13:06:39 GMT -5
Post by linkster on Jun 12, 2024 13:06:39 GMT -5
Sometimes I think I'm at a mad hatter's tea party where up is down and Tuesday comes after Thursday. You think Bueckers adds more as a wing, playing off the ball, than with the ball in her hands, making the offensive decisions? I'd love to hear why. UConn has had Bueckers playing off the ball for 3 years and has zero titles, despite her clutch shooting. There are no holes in the lineup this season, no lack of scorers, so how about starting her at her best position, where her array of amazing skills, her prescient vision and her decision-making are most fully utilized, where she makes everyone else better? Or is it that Arnold would be insulted if she didn't start at pg? I'm not sold that PG is her best position. As good a scorer as she is/could be if she hunted her shot more, I'm thinking she's more DT than Sue. I mean if this was Iowa, yeah, the balls in her hands all the time. But UCONN's offense doesn't run that way. You are right about UConn's offense compared to Iowa's. Roles are a lot fuzzier. Bueckers is a highly efficient scorer and for the last few seasons she has been the main offensive weapon. This season there are several elite scorers, including several elite 3pt shooters and the need for Bueckers to carry the scoring load doesn't exist. Besides, I wonder whether Bueckers would score much less running the team than she would playing off the ball. I would think that having 5 efficient scorers, one of which is an elite play-maker, on the court is better than 4 plus a weak-shooting play-maker.
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Post by bulkey on Jun 12, 2024 13:16:13 GMT -5
I'm not sold that PG is her best position. As good a scorer as she is/could be if she hunted her shot more, I'm thinking she's more DT than Sue. I mean if this was Iowa, yeah, the balls in her hands all the time. But UCONN's offense doesn't run that way. You are right about UConn's offense compared to Iowa's. Roles are a lot fuzzier. Bueckers is a highly efficient scorer and for the last few seasons she has been the main offensive weapon. This season there are several elite scorers, including several elite 3pt shooters and the need for Bueckers to carry the scoring load doesn't exist. Besides, I wonder whether Bueckers would score much less running the team than she would playing off the ball. I would think that having 5 efficient scorers, one of which is an elite play-maker, on the court is better than 4 plus a weak-shooting play-maker. That's one way to think of it. Another is to think of a super-active perimeter defender, a quick person to take the middle on an outlet pass and facilitate the fast breaks, who penetrates and draws the defensive in, and who moves the ball around efficiently on set offensive plays. Dennis Rodman couldn't shoot. But he could do a lot of things. You don't need 5 shooters. And KK's shooting percentage last year was statistically similar or superior to every other player (including the 2 games Azzi played and the several that Aubrey played), except for Paige and Aaliyah.
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Sarah
Jun 12, 2024 13:41:57 GMT -5
Post by linkster on Jun 12, 2024 13:41:57 GMT -5
You are right about UConn's offense compared to Iowa's. Roles are a lot fuzzier. Bueckers is a highly efficient scorer and for the last few seasons she has been the main offensive weapon. This season there are several elite scorers, including several elite 3pt shooters and the need for Bueckers to carry the scoring load doesn't exist. Besides, I wonder whether Bueckers would score much less running the team than she would playing off the ball. I would think that having 5 efficient scorers, one of which is an elite play-maker, on the court is better than 4 plus a weak-shooting play-maker. That's one way to think of it. Another is to think of a super-active perimeter defender, a quick person to take the middle on an outlet pass and facilitate the fast breaks, who penetrates and draws the defensive in, and who moves the ball around efficiently on set offensive plays.
Dennis Rodman couldn't shoot. But he could do a lot of things. You don't need 5 shooters. And KK's shooting percentage last year was statistically similar or superior to every other player (including the 2 games Azzi played and the several that Aubrey played), except for Paige and Aaliyah. The bolded part is also descriptive of Bueckers, and she also does all the offensive stuff too. KK averaged just over two 3pt shots a game, hitting on 33% of them. I don't remember seeing her create even one 3pt shot on her own all season. Why put a player out there to do one thing when another player is able to do that same thing, do them better, plus score? UConn has needed more size for several seasons and I'd rather see another front court player on the court instead of doubling up on pg skills.
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Post by swash on Jun 12, 2024 14:34:46 GMT -5
That's one way to think of it. Another is to think of a super-active perimeter defender, a quick person to take the middle on an outlet pass and facilitate the fast breaks, who penetrates and draws the defensive in, and who moves the ball around efficiently on set offensive plays.
Dennis Rodman couldn't shoot. But he could do a lot of things. You don't need 5 shooters. And KK's shooting percentage last year was statistically similar or superior to every other player (including the 2 games Azzi played and the several that Aubrey played), except for Paige and Aaliyah. The bolded part is also descriptive of Bueckers, and she also does all the offensive stuff too. KK averaged just over two 3pt shots a game, hitting on 33% of them. I don't remember seeing her create even one 3pt shot on her own all season. Why put a player out there to do one thing when another player is able to do that same things, do them better plus score? UConn has needed more size for several seasons and I'd rather see another front court player on the court instead of doubling up on pg skills. Ah. There's the solution ... just play this lineup ... Paige Supergirl Bueckers Coach P Buckets A little bit of a challenge defending the best centers, but it's going to be tough to get the ball into the post. And nobody is outscoring that group
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Post by ucchamp on Jun 12, 2024 20:08:54 GMT -5
That's one way to think of it. Another is to think of a super-active perimeter defender, a quick person to take the middle on an outlet pass and facilitate the fast breaks, who penetrates and draws the defensive in, and who moves the ball around efficiently on set offensive plays.
Dennis Rodman couldn't shoot. But he could do a lot of things. You don't need 5 shooters. And KK's shooting percentage last year was statistically similar or superior to every other player (including the 2 games Azzi played and the several that Aubrey played), except for Paige and Aaliyah. The bolded part is also descriptive of Bueckers, and she also does all the offensive stuff too. KK averaged just over two 3pt shots a game, hitting on 33% of them. I don't remember seeing her create even one 3pt shot on her own all season. Why put a player out there to do one thing when another player is able to do that same thing, do them better, plus score? UConn has needed more size for several seasons and I'd rather see another front court player on the court instead of doubling up on pg skills. 1-- 33% from 3 is not a weak shooting player. And she is a soph now. We're not assuming she will get worse, are we? Aubrey Griffin would shoot 29% from 3. That’s weak from 3. 2-- Why does it matter that if she creates a 3 on her own? Why should she? 3--- Why must the emphasis be only elite shooters on Offense? Last year they were seconds away from getting to the Finals. Maybe just needed a little more rest and a little more size? There isn't one way to win. 4-- In regard to put a player like KK out there-- it's not for one thing. KK does multiple things. That's why she plays. SoCar would play Boston and Cardoso at the same time. They were basically Centers. 5--- Genos greatness in part is because he recruits players and awards playing time to players that fit his style on Offense. He wants to play fast and play his better players that fit the style. It's why he scrapped any notion of working toward playing Big last year as he put Paige as the combo PG/PF. UCONN is going to want to play with speed without being so fixated on position rather on ball movement and execution. But as highlighted last year-- you need some size for sure but overall having better basketball players is more advantageous.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 12, 2024 20:20:36 GMT -5
Good debate. I will not engage. It's summertime and the living is easy. But I will add this extraneous thought. I would pay to see Paige play if she never scored. I am utterly enraptured by how she moves on the court. Everyone else is playing basketball. She is practicing her ballet.
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Post by larrylegend on Jun 13, 2024 6:33:51 GMT -5
Good debate. I will not engage. It's summertime and the living is easy. But I will add this extraneous thought. I would pay to see Paige play if she never scored. I am utterly enraptured by how she moves on the court. Everyone else is playing basketball. She is practicing her ballet. chess vs. checkers
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Sarah
Jun 13, 2024 8:18:53 GMT -5
Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 13, 2024 8:18:53 GMT -5
Good debate. I will not engage. It's summertime and the living is easy. But I will add this extraneous thought. I would pay to see Paige play if she never scored. I am utterly enraptured by how she moves on the court. Everyone else is playing basketball. She is practicing her ballet. chess vs. checkers Yup.
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