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Post by rockymtblue2 on Apr 21, 2024 11:54:28 GMT -5
This guy is pretty good at his stuff:
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Post by bulkey on Apr 21, 2024 12:04:20 GMT -5
When Jana learns the defense--which she will--she'll be devastating. Ditto Sarah. She reminds me of D--waves at the player on defense--which Geno is not going to let Sarah do nor which Sarah wants. Sarah will be the total package.
I think he underestimates Ice....
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Post by semper on Apr 21, 2024 12:18:29 GMT -5
Don't see much to argue with. It's early, of course, and we don't know about the portal yet.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Apr 21, 2024 14:25:30 GMT -5
When Jana learns the defense--which she will--she'll be devastating. Ditto Sarah. She reminds me of D--waves at the player on defense--which Geno is not going to let Sarah do nor which Sarah wants. Sarah will be the total package. I think he underestimates Ice.... Ice needs to talk herself into her own abilities. She's the only one who can do it.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 21, 2024 14:28:13 GMT -5
When Jana learns the defense--which she will--she'll be devastating. Ditto Sarah. She reminds me of D--waves at the player on defense--which Geno is not going to let Sarah do nor which Sarah wants. Sarah will be the total package. I think he underestimates Ice.... Ice needs to talk herself into her own abilities. She's the only one who can do it. She played pretty well at times. Given that she was a freshman having sat for a year and playing the most difficult position on the team, I like to stress the positive and believe that that will pull up the negatives. Look how she played in the final game of the year with the most on the line: In 15 minutes, she was 3-6 for 7 pts, 2 rebounds, and 2 assists. She will only get better.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Apr 21, 2024 15:53:29 GMT -5
Ice needs to talk herself into her own abilities. She's the only one who can do it. She played pretty well at times. Given that she was a freshman having sat for a year and playing the most difficult position on the team, I like to stress the positive and believe that that will pull up the negatives. Look how she played in the final game of the year with the most on the line: In 15 minutes, she was 3-6 for 7 pts, 2 rebounds, and 2 assists. She will only get better. She will get better and I am not down on her, but I do feel she's wrestling with doubts that are in her way.
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Post by magic on Apr 22, 2024 8:56:17 GMT -5
When a player sits out a year and watching from the bench and learning, I expect them to at least " know " the system and be able to be in the right position on the floor. Ice has a long way to go. She is obviously a player that lacks " true " confidence in her game. Probably due to the lack of competition she faced in HS.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 22, 2024 9:09:34 GMT -5
When a player sits out a year and watching from the bench and learning, I expect them to at least " know " the system and be able to be in the right position on the floor. Ice has a long way to go. She is obviously a player that lacks " true " confidence in her game. Probably due to the lack of competition she faced in HS. Not buying this at all. Ice's footwork was terrific and she certainly played the high post (by far, the hardest position on 4-out motion) effectively. She most certainly did know where to go on the floor. Look at the game thread again against Iowa: I was doing backflips about her brilliant defensive micro-movements that influenced plays subtly. Her problems were: at the beginning of the season at least, missing bunnies; holding on to rebounds; fouling too often on defense. Although she still fouled too much against Iowa, she showed up big time in that game.
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Post by chicagogg on Apr 22, 2024 9:32:43 GMT -5
IMHO, Ice shows up biggest when she has to - when she is not afraid of being sat back down if she makes an error. If she knows it's on her to help the team, it's full speed. If she's overthinking, not so much.
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Post by swash on Apr 22, 2024 9:41:52 GMT -5
When a player sits out a year and watching from the bench and learning, I expect them to at least " know " the system and be able to be in the right position on the floor. Ice has a long way to go. She is obviously a player that lacks " true " confidence in her game. Probably due to the lack of competition she faced in HS. Not buying this at all. Ice's footwork was terrific and she certainly played the high post (by far, the hardest position on 4-out motion) effectively. She most certainly did know where to go on the floor. Look at the game thread again against Iowa: I was doing backflips about her brilliant defensive micro-movements that influenced plays subtly. Her problems were: at the beginning of the season at least, missing bunnies; holding on to rebounds; fouling too often on defense. Although she still fouled too much against Iowa, she showed up big time in that game. If you take the year as a single evaluation unit, Ice was a moderate success ... able to give Aaliyah a little breather on the bench, and showing promise for future success. But if you break the year into three sections: OOC, BE Regular season, and tournaments ... now you get clear growth in each phase, some of the promise seen in each step realized in the next, and the final section clearly leads to plaudits and high expectations for a sophomore jump. Add to that the fact that she was coming off her first major injury and a full year of rehab ... and that hope is magnified even further. Don't let the fact that unreasonable things were needed from her in her first WCBB games sully the accolades she deserves for how much she did accomplish. Remember that Aaliyah also had foul troubles this year ... and had difficulties stopping opposing posts ... and she was an AA and the #6 pick in the WNBA draft. Edwards and Brady were both power forwards holding down the role of Center ... most of the time with an undersized (though spectacular) Four filling in the PF spot they (Ice and Aaliyah) were born to play. And the team had a golden opportunity for a spot in the finals.
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Post by swash on Apr 22, 2024 10:28:15 GMT -5
IMHO, Ice shows up biggest when she has to - when she is not afraid of being sat back down if she makes an error. If she knows it's on her to help the team, it's full speed. If she's overthinking, not so much. A full year out of injury land and a return to her natural PF position, plus a sophomore jump should make us all forget those thoughts entirely.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 22, 2024 10:43:13 GMT -5
IMHO, Ice shows up biggest when she has to - when she is not afraid of being sat back down if she makes an error. If she knows it's on her to help the team, it's full speed. If she's overthinking, not so much. A full year out of injury land and a return to her natural PF position, plus a sophomore jump should make us all forget those thoughts entirely. I think Ice is going to be the 5 and Jana the 4, despite the differences in height. Ice has really good instincts about distributing the ball with her back to the basket. She has an excellent outside shot and can play underneath, but I don't remember her ever driving to the hoop. In last summer's European ball, Jana was always playing facing the basket and had an excellent move to the rim as well as a great outside shot. Maybe on defense, they switch. But on offense, if Ice can get (say) a 10 and 10 from the 5, imagine what Jana can do in overmatching whoever is defending her by initiating outside the paint.
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Post by magic on Apr 22, 2024 12:08:42 GMT -5
Show me the money !
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Post by BJ42 on Apr 22, 2024 12:24:35 GMT -5
When a player sits out a year and watching from the bench and learning, I expect them to at least " know " the system and be able to be in the right position on the floor. Ice has a long way to go. She is obviously a player that lacks " true " confidence in her game. Probably due to the lack of competition she faced in HS.You obviously have no idea that Brady faced the best large school competition in California. Plus the best of the Nike EYBL circuit during the summers. Iriafen, Breya Cunningham, JuJu Watkins etc. Don't just make stuff up, do some research.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 22, 2024 12:57:42 GMT -5
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Post by swash on Apr 22, 2024 13:18:24 GMT -5
A full year out of injury land and a return to her natural PF position, plus a sophomore jump should make us all forget those thoughts entirely. I think Ice is going to be the 5 and Jana the 4, despite the differences in height. Ice has really good instincts about distributing the ball with her back to the basket. She has an excellent outside shot and can play underneath, but I don't remember her ever driving to the hoop. In last summer's European ball, Jana was always playing facing the basket and had an excellent move to the rim as well as a great outside shot. Maybe on defense, they switch. But on offense, if Ice can get (say) a 10 and 10 from the 5, imagine what Jana can do in overmatching whoever is defending her by initiating outside the paint. I do think they may trade roles on different ends of the floor. I think Ice is more comfortable facing up, too. But in the long run, it is the defensive side that will need to develop for both players this coming season.
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Post by magic on Apr 22, 2024 18:44:19 GMT -5
This guy is pretty good at his stuff: I've been following this guy for a couple of years. I find I agree with him most of the time.
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Post by jonathan on Apr 22, 2024 22:06:14 GMT -5
Geno basically admitted that he was forced to play Ice. There was a lot lacking in her game. We shall see if she can make a big sophomore jump. I am skeptical.
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Post by magic on Apr 23, 2024 6:59:22 GMT -5
When a player sits out a year and watching from the bench and learning, I expect them to at least " know " the system and be able to be in the right position on the floor. Ice has a long way to go. She is obviously a player that lacks " true " confidence in her game. Probably due to the lack of competition she faced in HS.You obviously have no idea that Brady faced the best large school competition in California. Plus the best of the Nike EYBL circuit during the summers. Iriafen, Breya Cunningham, JuJu Watkins etc. Don't just make stuff up, do some research. Well, maybe you live in California and saw her play , I didn't . I only watched some highlight games and some US basketball stuff. I am commenting on what I saw at Uconn games . I have seen no evidence so far that she can play at the level of Iriafen, Cunningham, JUJU or anyone else you want to mention. She filled in admirably for Aaliyah when there was noone else.
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Post by grrrrr on Apr 23, 2024 7:00:49 GMT -5
Some really great points, one thing we all saw with our own eyes. When Ice filled in for AE while she was out, she played her best. Net positive best, not just hold her own. Somehow, knowing that their was no other option made her play better. Or, let her play better? Was she relaxed knowing she wasn't coming out no matter what? Whatever the reason, she proved that she can do it. If Ice, Jana and Yanna can play to their potential their would be no need for a portal pickup. The IF part is the problem. I would hate a portal pickup to stifle the growth of the 3 posts, but it seems to me that is asking for a lot for all 3 of them to blossom at once. No team in the country has more talent at the guard/wing spots than the Huskies so maybe they go with a four guard line up again. In that case, you'd only need 2 of the 3 bigs to step up. Actually, maybe a four guard lineup would be best in any case, check out the 24-25 roster again. Man.
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Post by magic on Apr 23, 2024 7:01:07 GMT -5
Actually I was liking Beers.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 23, 2024 7:06:23 GMT -5
Actually I was liking Beers. right, but it shows that you knew they played against one another, so it was a matter of whether Ice faced good competition in her pre-college years.
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Post by jonathan on Apr 23, 2024 9:01:47 GMT -5
To my eye, it looks like Ice gained a fair amount of weight since that pic was taken. That could explain her struggles last year. If so, she has her future in her control.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 23, 2024 9:21:57 GMT -5
To my eye, it looks like Ice gained a fair amount of weight since that pic was taken. That could explain her struggles last year. If so, she has her future in her control. Interesting. Maybe Ice gained weight while inactive the previous year. Clearly, she wasn't in playing fit when this season started. But by the end, I thought she looked super-duper-duper fit, and, in fact, in one game played all 40 minutes. She runs the floor really well now.
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Post by swash on Apr 23, 2024 12:19:13 GMT -5
You obviously have no idea that Brady faced the best large school competition in California. Plus the best of the Nike EYBL circuit during the summers. Iriafen, Breya Cunningham, JuJu Watkins etc. Don't just make stuff up, do some research. Well, maybe you live in California and saw her play , I didn't . I only watched some highlight games and some US basketball stuff. I am commenting on what I saw at Uconn games . I have seen no evidence so far that she can play at the level of Iriafen, Cunningham, JUJU or anyone else you want to mention. She filled in admirably for Aaliyah when there was noone else. You know all Americans aren't ejected from the womb with a perfect turnaround jump shot, right? When Mojeff was a freshman, the student section would quietly mumble ... why is he putting her in? Gabby was a ball of energy going everywhere and getting nowhere. Aaliyah got whistled for her first foul on the way to the table to check in Tina was only soso in her first year Katie Lou clanked her first 27 three point attempts Even Stewie had her early struggles If you don't see promise in Brady, you aren't looking closely enough. She's not going to be NPoY next season, but she will contribute.
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