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Post by bulkey on May 11, 2022 13:40:16 GMT -5
For most people without complicating health factors, the main challenge is the "inconvenience" is isolation. Well I do have heart issues, and I'm a bit older, and I'm fat as $#%. So I do have some health factors. Main reason I got the vaccines and booster.
Actually this is kind of going very similar to "something" I had in Feb 2020, before anything really started.  Interesting. To me anyway. I have complications, too. I also had "something" in Feb 2020. I was really sick for around 6 months. Felt like I was 20 years older, and only gradually felt better. Then I found out that the colleague I had been talking with in Feb had brought Covid back with him from a conference in Portugal.
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Post by chicagogg on May 11, 2022 14:07:50 GMT -5
Hope you feel better soon, Meyers!
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Post by chicagogg on May 12, 2022 12:06:14 GMT -5
We are off to Maine in the morning for our semi-annual trip to recharge and refresh. Thanks to Bulkey for the heads up on Maine virus rates. Packing extra masks as a precautionary measure. Need a lot of beach walks to get over CT winter, and weather looks warm and (mostly) sunny (frost free!).
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Post by bulkey on May 12, 2022 13:11:25 GMT -5
We are off to Maine in the morning for our semi-annual trip to recharge and refresh. Thanks to Bulkey for the heads up on Maine virus rates. Packing extra masks as a precautionary measure. Need a lot of beach walks to get over CT winter, and weather looks warm and (mostly) sunny (frost free!). Enjoy!! My kid did a lobster roll tour of Maine last summer: 10 rolls in 4 days, all videoed for proof. Don't try to beat that record!!
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Post by chicagogg on May 13, 2022 7:15:22 GMT -5
We are off to Maine in the morning for our semi-annual trip to recharge and refresh. Thanks to Bulkey for the heads up on Maine virus rates. Packing extra masks as a precautionary measure. Need a lot of beach walks to get over CT winter, and weather looks warm and (mostly) sunny (frost free!). Enjoy!! My kid did a lobster roll tour of Maine last summer: 10 rolls in 4 days, all videoed for proof. Don't try to beat that record!! Their record is safe - I can't eat lobster! But I make a good dent in a crab roll....
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Post by semper on May 13, 2022 8:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on May 13, 2022 9:21:11 GMT -5
Yes, decades from now "Maine Lobster" and "Vermont Maple Syrup" will be empty references. Instead, we'll have "Rhode Island Crab Cakes" and "Connecticut Peaches"
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Post by bulkey on May 16, 2022 14:16:35 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on May 16, 2022 17:08:57 GMT -5
Sorry to add to what we all want to stop thinking about. But suddenly there's lot of personal family travel this summer and concomitant concern (which doesn't seem to stop the travel). The new term(s): Covid Complacency/Capitulation: erictopol.substack.com/p/the-covid-capitulation?s=rNow we are seeing people with 4 shots who are getting breakthrough infections, even at 1-2 weeks from their most recent shot, when there should be the maximal level of neutralizing antibodies induced. That’s not a good sign, relative to the 95% vaccine effectiveness we had against symptomatic infections against the ancestral, D614G, Alpha, and Delta (with a booster) strains.
But it’s worse than that. Because we have relied (and taken for granted) on vaccines to protect us from severe disease—to prevent hospitalizations and deaths. Prior to Omicron we could, with a booster, assume there was well over 90-95% vaccine effectiveness vs severe disease. It is clear, however, from multiple reports, including the UK Health Security Agency and Kaiser Permanente that this level of protection has declined to approximately 80%, particularly taking account the more rapid waning than previously seen. That represents a substantial drop-off: instead of a gap or “leak” of 5%, it is about 4-fold at 20%.
The author is Eric Topol, who describes himself as "physician-scientist."
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Post by meyers7 on May 17, 2022 8:02:12 GMT -5
Hope you feel better soon, Meyers! Thanks. Feeling great (well as good as I normally do at this age). Yea, I felt like crap for a day (fever, aches) - Monday (tested positive), then my sinuses drained for about 2-3 days. By Sat I was out mowing the yard. Not even really tired. Monday (yesterday) tested negative.
I have had vaccine and booster (last Oct.). I also took the anti-meds (5 days of Paxlovid). Not too much to it for me. Luckily.Thankfully.
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Post by chicagogg on May 19, 2022 10:09:55 GMT -5
We are back from Maine, where it was relaxing and wonderful. Masking not very prevalent, except for a few small shops where it was required by the owners. We did see quite a few folks voluntarily mask in public. I was struck however, by the seeming contradiction of people walking in outdoor, uncrowded conditions while masked, and then promptly unmasking in a full, crowded restaurant. The area of concern would seem to be the exact opposite. To each their own.
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Post by bulkey on May 19, 2022 10:40:17 GMT -5
We are back from Maine, where it was relaxing and wonderful. Masking not very prevalent, except for a few small shops where it was required by the owners. We did see quite a few folks voluntarily mask in public. I was struck however, by the seeming contradiction of people walking in outdoor, uncrowded conditions while masked, and then promptly unmasking in a full, crowded restaurant. The area of concern would seem to be the exact opposite. To each their own. Glad you had a good time! The masking practice (or ritual?) is fascinating to me, too. It will surely be the subject of many social anthropological studies. I agree that probably the most at-risk place we can be is indoor dining. And yet....just very weird..... Last October, during one of the "covid lulls" we walked through a crowded restaurant in the Berks with our masks on, on the way to their outdoor seating. No one inside was wearing a mask and everyone really stared at us, as if we were doing something wrong. As if we hadn't gotten the memo. I still can't figure out what people are thinking about masks. I can't even figure out what I'm thinking.
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on May 19, 2022 15:15:35 GMT -5
We are back from Maine, where it was relaxing and wonderful. Masking not very prevalent, except for a few small shops where it was required by the owners. We did see quite a few folks voluntarily mask in public. I was struck however, by the seeming contradiction of people walking in outdoor, uncrowded conditions while masked, and then promptly unmasking in a full, crowded restaurant. The area of concern would seem to be the exact opposite. To each their own. Glad you had a good time! The masking practice (or ritual?) is fascinating to me, too. It will surely be the subject of many social anthropological studies. I agree that probably the most at-risk place we can be is indoor dining. And yet....just very weird..... Last October, during one of the "covid lulls" we walked through a crowded restaurant in the Berks with our masks on, on the way to their outdoor seating. No one inside was wearing a mask and everyone really stared at us, as if we were doing something wrong. As if we hadn't gotten the memo. I still can't figure out what people are thinking about masks. I can't even figure out what I'm thinking. And oddly enough, not a lot of stares here in Tucson. Not a lot of masks, either. I have read enough to convince me that, given my wife's immunocompromised status and my general health, masking is a good thing. Studies suggest it does - with a good mask - provide a level of protection, nothing being perfect, of course. I also have read enough to believe that outside is not the issue (although I admit a psychological reluctance to sit in a stadium). I only mask indoors, but I mask everywhere outside the home when I am indoors and around folks. Other than 2 family members we haven't had inside company and we have eaten out only twice (outdoor seating). Of course my wife's various health issues keep her largely homebound. The only places I see masked employees is a couple fast food restaurants - they mask at Panda Express where I got lunch yesterday. The only place I see a lot of masks (and still maybe only 20 to 30 percent) is in grocery stores, largely but not exclusively older folks. Like you, I don't claim to understand it. But it doesn't bother me, I'll do my thing in an effort to protect myself and other folks can do theirs.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on May 29, 2022 8:44:26 GMT -5
We started a drought last year and this winter has certainly keep it alive. May has been kind with high altitude snow and a fair amount of rain. Wind and summer temps will put us back into drought absent incredible fortune. Still, we look good next to the Southwest.
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Post by bulkey on May 29, 2022 9:08:05 GMT -5
We started a drought last year and this winter has certainly keep it alive. May has been kind with high altitude snow and a fair amount of rain. Wind and summer temps will put us back into drought absent incredible fortune. Still, we look good next to the Southwest. Sorry, Rocky. I'm sure it's tough there. It's an 800 (at least) year drought in the west. And yet, there are no water use restrictions in place, at least in California: lawn watering, dish washing, length of showers, etc. Friends assure me those will come in the summer, but you'd think they'd try to get a head start so they can smooth out the limitations. Here in New England the problem is too much water--in coastline erosion. We're about 1/2 mile from the ocean and our (required) flood insurance goes up the legal limit every year. Eventually it will make our home too expensive to own (hoping to sell it before then  ) and further on it will be washed out to sea (really hoping to sell it before then  ).
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Post by rockymtblue2 on May 29, 2022 9:14:59 GMT -5
On to the important stuff. Specifically Memorial Day, not in this country, but the Netherlands where they are honoring our WWII dead as I type this. Canadian and American troups liberated the Netherlands in a choppy town and city battle. The occupation was brutal and many people were starvating as the liberators advanced on the Germans. The allies were dropping food in late April and the liberation began on May 5. Back to my point. The people of the Netherlands have never forgotten their debt of gratitude to the Allied troops. The ceremony in progress today is at the only American Cemetery with 8300 American dead. The ceremony is well attended and conducted with reverence. This is not a once a year thing. Every soldier in the cemetery is adopted by a family in the Netherlands which learns as much as they can about him or her and visits the grave at least several times a year and decorates it with flowers. Get this: there is a waiting list at least several deep for each soldier.
That is what it means to memorialize.
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Post by semper on May 29, 2022 9:22:52 GMT -5
Wow, that is wonderful and amazing. It is so important. We are in Vienna now, and will do some remembering of Schubert. What a tragic life he led. Such a genius, and only one full concert of his music in his lifetime, yet he kept going.
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Post by bulkey on May 29, 2022 10:33:25 GMT -5
On to the important stuff. Specifically Memorial Day, not in this country, but the Netherlands where they are honoring our WWII dead as I type this. Canadian and American troups liberated the Netherlands in a choppy town and city battle. The occupation was brutal and many people were starvating as the liberators advanced on the Germans. The allies were dropping food in late April and the liberation began on May 5. Back to my point. The people of the Netherlands have never forgotten their debt of gratitude to the Allied troops. The ceremony in progress today is at the only American Cemetery with 8300 American dead. The ceremony is well attended and conducted with reverence. This is not a once a year thing. Every soldier in the cemetery is adopted by a family in the Netherlands which learns as much as they can about him or her and visits the grave at least several times a year and decorates it with flowers. Get this: there is a waiting list at least several deep for each soldier. That is what it means to memorialize. Thanks so very, very much, Rocky. This is profoundly moving. Visiting Normandy Beach was life changing for me. The unimaginable sacrifice....
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Post by UConnChapette on May 29, 2022 13:35:05 GMT -5
Most of the European countries are very appreciative of the US and Canadian soldiers who fought so selflessly, so far away from their own homeland to help retain or win back their freedom. I find it deeply touching that the Netherlands takes such care of the soldiers who served and made the ultimate sacrifice, so long after their deaths and the war they died in.
I have been fortunate in that I have not lost immediate family members to war. My father-in-law served in WWII in the Pacific theatre and came home as a disabled vet and had shrapnel in his leg until the day he died. He never spoke about the war except in the most abstract of ways. My father was in the Air Force in the early 50's during the Korean war but served state-side repairing radios. My husband was too young for Vietnam, and then they stopped the draft before my children turned 18, though both my sons had to register for selective service just in case the draft was reinstituted.
Still...I recognize the sacrifices our military members who served in armed conflicts made, putting their lives on the line for the freedoms of others, even though many left their own wives and children, girlfriends, parents and siblings behind for a cause they may not have understood at the time. And let's not forget the female members of the military who served first in nursing corps and now on the front lines. Tomorrow we honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice and gave their lives. In memoriam, I thank them for their service.
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on May 29, 2022 14:33:12 GMT -5
Most of the European countries are very appreciative of the US and Canadian soldiers who fought so selflessly, so far away from their own homeland to help retain or win back their freedom. I find it deeply touching that the Netherlands takes such care of the soldiers who served and made the ultimate sacrifice, so long after their deaths and the war they died in. I have been fortunate in that I have not lost immediate family members to war. My father-in-law served in WWII in the Pacific theatre and came home as a disabled vet and had shrapnel in his leg until the day he died. He never spoke about the war except in the most abstract of ways. My father was in the Air Force in the early 50's during the Korean war but served state-side repairing radios. My husband was too young for Vietnam, and then they stopped the draft before my children turned 18, though both my sons had to register for selective service just in case the draft was reinstituted. Still...I recognize the sacrifices our military members who served in armed conflicts made, putting their lives on the line for the freedoms of others, even though many left their own wives and children, girlfriends, parents and siblings behind for a cause they may not have understood at the time. And let's not forget the female members of the military who served first in nursing corps and now on the front lines. Tomorrow we honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice and gave their lives. In memoriam, I thank them for their service. Same here, in that I have not lost any of the family members who served in the wars. My great-uncle Raymond died from lung damage due to poison gas during WWI, but he did live a year or 2 after returning. As I've said before, my father was a ground mechanic on B17 bombers at a base in England, they often returned containing wounded and dead crewmen, and of course sometimes didn't return. Plus his tentmate was killed when a damaged bomber ran off the runway into Dad's tent, luckily my father was on-duty while his tentmate was blown up. All this made my father especially mindful of Memorial Day. A friends father, he has to be well up in his 90's, participated in D-Day and was in Europe a couple years back as part of ceremonies. Even when I was in England as a child, 1969, with my father's bomb group association, it was notable how the folks still were so grateful - one of the local farmers (the base had fallen into disrepair and become a farm, with a remaining building or 2 used as barns) actually was setting up a small museum on them.
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Post by chicagogg on May 30, 2022 10:31:58 GMT -5
On Memorial Day I always pause to remember the guys I went to grade school and/or high school with, or who went to high school with my younger brother. Many of them served in Viet Nam, and several never came home. Others who did come home had lingering scars, mental and physical. I say a prayer for them all.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 1, 2022 9:31:06 GMT -5
Under the heading "they never learn" a 25 year old woman from Grove City, Ohio was gored and tossed 10 feet in the air in Yellowstone on Monday morning. Yes, she approached the bison. Rushed to the hospital she did not survive. If you have visited the park you know everyone gets a warning brochure specifically about bison. What a terrible waste.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jun 1, 2022 10:10:43 GMT -5
You truly cannot fix stupid. And you either have common sense or you don't. In this case, I think the young woman suffered from a deficiency in both smarts and common sense. A senseless loss of life with no one to blame but herself.
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Post by swash on Jun 1, 2022 10:32:04 GMT -5
You truly cannot fix stupid. And you either have common sense or you don't. In this case, I think the young woman suffered from a deficiency in both smarts and common sense. A senseless loss of life with no one to blame but herself. Darwin Award. Easy to recognize this as foolish, but it is a wonder that so many humans make it to procreating age at all. Most of us can probably think of a time or two that a subtle twist of fate may have spelled the difference between our lives as we know them and ones where ... reproduction ... was eliminated from our option list. Many of us are post-war babies of soldiers, sailors, airmen ... who had ample opportunities to prevent them becoming parents. Yet, here we are looking around the next corner at EIGHT Billion inhabitants on this spinning blue marvelous marble.
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Post by bulkey on Jun 1, 2022 12:11:15 GMT -5
You truly cannot fix stupid. And you either have common sense or you don't. In this case, I think the young woman suffered from a deficiency in both smarts and common sense. A senseless loss of life with no one to blame but herself. Darwin Award. Easy to recognize this as foolish, but it is a wonder that so many humans make it to procreating age at all. Most of us can probably think of a time or two that a subtle twist of fate may have spelled the difference between our lives as we know them and ones where ... reproduction ... was eliminated from our option list. Many of us are post-war babies of soldiers, sailors, airmen ... who had ample opportunities to prevent them becoming parents. Yet, here we are looking around the next corner at EIGHT Billion inhabitants on this spinning blue marvelous marble. I think back to all the incredibly stupid things I did when I was young and wonder how I made it. Pure dumb luck. Funny story (along those lines). When my wife was in college, she hopped a ride back home with a classmate. She didn't know that her classmate/driver had dropped LSD before starting out. Driving south on 95, he suddenly stops because "the light is red." Turns out there was a stop light on the overpass....
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