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Post by doggydaddy on Jul 10, 2024 7:00:53 GMT -5
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Post by pinotbear on Jul 10, 2024 7:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by grrrrr on Jul 10, 2024 9:18:40 GMT -5
I saw that. No way FOX gives the Big East that new tv deal for that amount of money without UCONN being in the conference. So, I'm guessing the buyout/exit fee would be huge and unaffordable. Well, unless the B12 pays for most of it. Which I suppose is not out of the realm of possibility. They are talking about making all sorts of corporate deals. Everything from renaming the conference (Allstate 12 is the current leader) to putting corporate logs on every field and court to putting logos on referee's uniforms. FOX does own 1/2 of the B12's tv rights so they wouldn't be totally losing the Huskies, just would have to share with ESPN. Maybe FOX has it written into the contract with the Big East that if UCONN leaves the payment is reduced?
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Big 12?
Jul 10, 2024 9:25:09 GMT -5
Post by bulkey on Jul 10, 2024 9:25:09 GMT -5
I saw that. No way FOX gives the Big East that new tv deal for that amount of money without UCONN being in the conference. So, I'm guessing the buyout/exit fee would be huge and unaffordable. Well, unless the B12 pays for most of it. Which I suppose is not out of the realm of possibility. They are talking about making all sorts of corporate deals. Everything from renaming the conference (Allstate 12 is the current leader) to putting corporate logs on every field and court to putting logos on referee's uniforms. FOX does own 1/2 of the B12's tv rights so they wouldn't be totally losing the Huskies, just would have to share with ESPN. Maybe FOX has it written into the contract with the Big East that if UCONN leaves the payment is reduced? Wow. You're all over this!
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Jul 10, 2024 13:54:50 GMT -5
Post by huskyharper on Jul 10, 2024 13:54:50 GMT -5
Horrible travel for the team...
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Post by pinotbear on Jul 10, 2024 14:03:29 GMT -5
Horrible travel for the team... unfortunately, with the cannibalism and demise of various schools and conferences, the only affiliation that wouldn't require horrible travel would be to a very minor conference. Even the daggone ACC goes coast-to-coast. The SEC is more compact, I guess, but the mental image that comes to my mind, of UConn in the SEC, is that of a patient violently rejecting an organ transplant. ![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7k9I3F504qeZWeyLF2stq3pONrzEgBGZNSw&s)
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Post by grrrrr on Jul 11, 2024 9:29:06 GMT -5
I saw that. No way FOX gives the Big East that new tv deal for that amount of money without UCONN being in the conference. So, I'm guessing the buyout/exit fee would be huge and unaffordable. Well, unless the B12 pays for most of it. Which I suppose is not out of the realm of possibility. They are talking about making all sorts of corporate deals. Everything from renaming the conference (Allstate 12 is the current leader) to putting corporate logs on every field and court to putting logos on referee's uniforms. FOX does own 1/2 of the B12's tv rights so they wouldn't be totally losing the Huskies, just would have to share with ESPN. Maybe FOX has it written into the contract with the Big East that if UCONN leaves the payment is reduced? Wow. You're all over this! Thanks. Lot's of great info on Youtube, 99% football but basketball factors in too. Peek Around the Corner with Greg Flugauer, John Kurtz and 365 Sports are the three that seem to be the most accurate and don't blow any smoke. Tons of others that just make stuff up as they go along which I ignore.
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Post by linkster on Jul 11, 2024 13:21:58 GMT -5
Two questions.
So let's say UConn joins the B12. What happens if, 3 years later, 8 B12 teams leave the conference and it collapses like the PAC12?
With three old NFL franchises within a 2 hour drive from Hartford can college football ever hope to be as popular as in the southern part of the country where racial laws kept the NFL out for decades? The only college football game in CT that ever drew any interest was the annual Yale-Harvard game and when was the last time anyone cared who won other than the Ivies?
Part of me wants UConn to move to a major conference and another part of me doesn't want it based on investing enormous amounts of money on what will become a white elephant and detract from the basketball programs.
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Big 12?
Jul 11, 2024 15:15:35 GMT -5
Post by swash on Jul 11, 2024 15:15:35 GMT -5
Two questions. So let's say UConn joins the B12. What happens if, 3 years later, 8 B12 teams leave the conference and it collapses like the PAC12? With three old NFL franchises within a 2 hour drive from Hartford can college football ever hope to be as popular as in the southern part of the country where racial laws kept the NFL out for decades? The only college football game in CT that ever drew any interest was the annual Yale-Harvard game and when was the last time anyone cared who won other than the Ivies? Part of me wants UConn to move to a major conference and another part of me doesn't want it based on investing enormous amounts of money on what will become a white elephant and detract from the basketball programs. 1. I don't like the B12 as an option. Their schools are not top tier and every one of them would jump to move to the B10/SEC as soon as offered. They do have a better media deal today, but as you state that is in peril as is their membership. The zany travel and unnatural matchups feels like a return to the AAC, with a couple of years in a better media deal ... but not that much better. I have zero say, but I'd prefer to see UConn limp along until the next generation of conference musical chairs manifests. 2. Can UConn draw near guaranteed sellouts at the Rent? Absolutely. But it will require a successful program... something akin to the lesser recent years of our basketball teams ... compete for real and even occasionally upset the titans, strong in standings of the next tier, and significantly better than everybody else. Consider perhaps a level similar to maybe Kansas or Boise St. UCF got there recently, but are already having trouble staying there. I don't see a move to the B12 being the driver to achieve that. Not necessarily a detriment, but not a lock as an accelerator. So can this level be achieved? I am skeptical. It is much tougher to get there in football, because no matter how generational they are, it takes more than a few stellar recruits to get to that level. The big guys are going to be throwing around a lot of cash. The argument, "We suck. so there's lots of PT available." won't hold water vs the alternative ... Georgia (UM, Bama, tOSU, ND, etc) will pay me $x00k to ride the pine for a year or two, and then I can transfer for a big payday using "I'm a Georgia transfer" as a ticket.
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Post by semper on Jul 11, 2024 15:44:56 GMT -5
I am so freaking sick of all this.
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Post by jonathan on Jul 12, 2024 15:14:41 GMT -5
I am so freaking sick of all this. Me too. The survivors will create their own NCAA. I thought the ACC would have been a good move but BC has kept us out for 20 years. Now, they have teams in CA, which makes no sense. So the travel sucks in the ACC and the Big 12. The SEC travel would suck too. The Big 10 was the other logical choice but we were never Big enough. And now they appear to be full. The ACC or the Big 10 could have had North/South or East/ West divisions and that would have kept travel reasonable. Now the whole thing is a giant cluster.....
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Post by swash on Jul 12, 2024 15:25:43 GMT -5
I am so freaking sick of all this. Me too. The survivors will create their own NCAA. I thought the ACC would have been a good move but BC has kept us out for 20 years. Now, they have teams in CA, which makes no sense. So the travel sucks in the ACC and the Big 12. The SEC travel would suck too. The Big 10 was the other logical choice but we were never Big enough. And now they appear to be full. The ACC or the Big 10 could have had North/South or East/ West divisions and that would have kept travel reasonable. Now the whole thing is a giant cluster..... If FSU and Clemson leave, the ACC is as good as dead for football. They have teams, but none that can compete at the top level.
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Jul 12, 2024 15:50:33 GMT -5
Post by bulkey on Jul 12, 2024 15:50:33 GMT -5
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Post by swash on Jul 12, 2024 16:02:31 GMT -5
Would make the B12 a credible third conference for football.
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Big 12?
Jul 13, 2024 7:28:49 GMT -5
Post by bulkey on Jul 13, 2024 7:28:49 GMT -5
Would make the B12 a credible third conference for football. I don’t follow Nebraska at all—Chappy?—but my sense is that Nebraska has long been unhappy with its decision to join the B1G. It hasn’t helped with football recruiting (probably to the contrary), and many of its other sports haven’t been a great fit with the B1G’s interests. It might make sense to return to the B12 if the conference strengthens this way. And maybe the B1G wouldn’t impose much of an exit fee, since it’s bringing in USC and UCLA, which are very sexy teams for TV revenue.
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Post by jonathan on Aug 3, 2024 8:22:58 GMT -5
The problem is BC. They are still blocking us. Really nice, Jesuits... Also, not sure I want this now. I don't like the idea of forced travel to the west coast twice a year. I know they charter flights now but it is still tougher on the kids.
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Post by grrrrr on Aug 3, 2024 9:02:01 GMT -5
I'm just as sick with all this crap as the rest of you guys are but it's like watching a slow motion train wreck, I can't look away. I just want UCONN to be safe, right now the ground is shifting under everyone's feet thanks to football. I don't believe for a second ND would go to the Big 12 like that article suggested. A few days ago at the Big 10 football media days the USC Coach, Lincoln Riley, said the Trojans rivalry with ND could be "Expendable" based on all the realignment and hinting that USC's conference schedule in the Big 10 was going to be tough enough without playing the Irish. That caused a 5.0 earthquake in South Bend, enough so that they publicly responded to Riley's comments by saying they hoped to continue the series. Riley's comments (According to the reports, somewhat cryptic) were no accident coming when and where they did. The B10 has long courted the Irish and been rebuffed, this seems to be a shot across the bow. "Sure is a nice little rivalry you have there, be a shame if something happened to it. Of course, if we were in the same conference it'll be fine."
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Post by linkster on Aug 3, 2024 13:36:38 GMT -5
Horrible travel for the team... Four hours on a jet or 4 hours on a bus? Meh. The fans are the ones who would have a problem with travel costs.
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Aug 3, 2024 16:10:08 GMT -5
Post by linkster on Aug 3, 2024 16:10:08 GMT -5
Another POV.
I would love to play NDame twice or three times a year. NCSt, Duke, UNC, Louisville, Stanford?
I'd also like to hit Powerball. At least the ACC is doable.
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