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Post by semper on Apr 20, 2024 0:22:05 GMT -5
This has been around a couple of days. Worth a read:
A quotation: "If you want to kill it, then let the kids leave after freshman year," Auriemma said. "On the men's side, it's become transactional. Everybody's a free agent. Everybody's a mercenary. It's not the kids' fault. ... To me, what helped the women's game grow is the people in Iowa got to grow up with Caitlin Clark. The people of Connecticut got to grow up with all of my great players. There's something to be said for that."
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Post by magic on Apr 20, 2024 6:56:27 GMT -5
Seems to me everyone is a free agent now. Players are mercenaries for themselves. The rules and the game have already changed. It won't be long before a player challenges the one and done in wcbb and wins in court. Just go down to Texas and find a judge.
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Post by grrrrr on Apr 20, 2024 7:06:25 GMT -5
If college coaches, especially in football, want to blame someone all they have to do is look in the mirror. $10 million a year for a college coach? Jump schools whenever they want? Goose meet gander.
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Post by semper on Apr 20, 2024 8:05:57 GMT -5
First it hit job market, quite a while ago. There used to be something called loyalty, and companies had it for their workers. Then...well, you know. Workers lost loyalty for the people they worked for, then...it's every person for him/herself. Ultimately that won't work, not in the workplace, in government, in sports, in communities. Well, we'll see what happens. At least we have Geno!
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Post by mulliganspa on Apr 20, 2024 11:41:29 GMT -5
There already IS a “One and Done” in the Women’s game. It’s called the Portal and it has a lot more negative impact on the game than the WNBA where a relatively few players are involved. The Portal is decimating programs already. If they don’t fix it somehow, One and Done to the WNBA won’t matter much.
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Post by semper on Apr 20, 2024 11:49:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree that it is decimating programs, esp. hard hit is the Big East in recent years. Except for us, of course.
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Post by swash on Apr 20, 2024 12:26:57 GMT -5
There already IS a “One and Done” in the Women’s game. It’s called the Portal and it has a lot more negative impact on the game than the WNBA where a relatively few players are involved. The Portal is decimating programs already. If they don’t fix it somehow, One and Done to the WNBA won’t matter much. I agree. From the players' side The number of one and done candidates to the W is not even a couple per year. Some of those players will still opt to wait more than a year. From the league perspective W rosters cannot park a project like the NBA G league. In general Third rounders rarely make a roster. Second rounders rarely become starters Even in the recent draft, at least three first round picks were international players not expected to even be available for a year or more. Clark chose to wait in Iowa. Paige waited at UConn. Boston likely would have stayed as long as she did. Juju would surely be considered if interested. Hidalgo? Fulwiley? Williams? Probably each need more time in wcbb, but one or more might opt to go earlier than the current rule. |
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Post by semper on Apr 20, 2024 13:53:49 GMT -5
I think "one and done" is a red herring in WCBB at present. It is nearly impossible to be chosen for the few slots and highly ranked players will make more from NIL. What has really got me worried is the portal. If I were a reporter, I'd do a story on what happens to the hundreds of portalinae who do not get bids. Do they then finish college somewhere without a scholarship? Do they go to whatever school will fund them? Does anyone know?
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Post by bulkey on Apr 20, 2024 15:21:33 GMT -5
I think "one and done" is a red herring in WCBB at present. It is nearly impossible to be chosen for the few slots and highly ranked players will make more from NIL. What has really got me worried is the portal. If I were a reporter, I'd do a story on what happens to the hundreds of portalinae who do not get bids. Do they then finish college somewhere without a scholarship? Do they go to whatever school will fund them? Does anyone know? Great post! |
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Post by phil on Apr 20, 2024 15:22:33 GMT -5
I think "one and done" is a red herring in WCBB at present. It is nearly impossible to be chosen for the few slots and highly ranked players will make more from NIL. What has really got me worried is the portal. If I were a reporter, I'd do a story on what happens to the hundreds of portalinae who do not get bids. Do they then finish college somewhere without a scholarship? Do they go to whatever school will fund them? Does anyone know? I think that sounds like a great idea. I don't have the bandwidth but his a place to start: 2022-23If I'm reading this correctly there were 343 grad transfers. I don't think these are individuals who were ever in the portal. If I understand correctly, only players who have not yet graduated need to enter the portal. This number is relevant if you're looking at the total amount of movement, but can be ignored if you are looking for the number of players who enter the portal and did not find a home. It looks to me like the total number of undergrads entering the portal is 1221 (this is only D1). The number of undergrads and found a new home is 1054, which means 167 players entered the portal, and did not find a home. Looking at the list, for example, Zy'nyla White appears to be a player who entered the portal but returned to Alcorn State, So I believe that means the 167 difference between in and out our players who did not find a home elsewhere and were not welcomed back at their original school. It might take some digging to confirm this. One to look at is Nikki McDonald. She was at Air Force is listed as someone who put her name in the portal but didn't have a destination. She did spend four years at Air Force, but she's not listed as a grad transfer. Another example is Quantaijah Huffman who was a sophomore at Alabama A&M but is no longer on their roster and I don't find any evidence she went elsewhere. |
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Post by semper on Apr 20, 2024 15:40:28 GMT -5
Fascinating...I guess the essay would need two parts. The first would be the number of the 1054 who moved up, however one wants to define it. All to D1 schools, of course. The second part of the essay would be those 167! That is quite a few, but I really thought it would be even more. I bet some of them just go back, if they can, from whence they came. I have zero time for this, but it sure is interesting. Wish someone who works in the field of sports reporting would take it on. Some interviews with players like Huffman would be so cool.
PS that blog is great. I didn't know about it.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 20, 2024 16:15:15 GMT -5
And now we have a very depressing turn of events (as if it weren't already depressing enough). Portalers are acting like high school recruits, announcing their final choices. If you know where you're thinking of going, even if it involves more than one school, just put a "do not contact" on your announcement. Pitting colleges against one another at this level and point in the season is creating a hopelessly complex game of musical chairs.
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Post by doggydaddy on Apr 20, 2024 20:16:34 GMT -5
And now we have a very depressing turn of events (as if it weren't already depressing enough). Portalers are acting like high school recruits, announcing their final choices. If you know where you're thinking of going, even if it involves more than one school, just put a "do not contact" on your announcement. Pitting colleges against one another at this level and point in the season is creating a hopelessly complex game of musical chairs. Well, they are being recruited all over again so why not? |
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Post by semper on Apr 21, 2024 3:29:31 GMT -5
Must be fun to coach...
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