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Post by klittle on Apr 6, 2024 12:36:28 GMT -5
Can't believe the refs would make that call with the game on the line! And also the other phantom fouls that were called on us. Seems like they wanted to see Clark play one last college game. I think I'll be rooting for South Carolina now and hoping they wipe the floor with Iowa.
We got Sarah though, so that brightens my day.
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Post by UConnChapette on Apr 6, 2024 12:42:18 GMT -5
I am not going to buy into any conspiracy theories. It is pointless to second guess.
BTW - I love that Patton Oswalt is in this video!
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Post by klittle on Apr 6, 2024 13:12:32 GMT -5
It may be pointless to you, but it's therapeutic for me being able to vent my frustrations. The game was essentially decided by ticky tac foul call. I wish we could play Iowa next year with a full team so we can open a can of whoop ass on them. Iowa will return to mediocrity next year so maybe that's why they were gifted the game.
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Post by larrylegend on Apr 6, 2024 13:15:59 GMT -5
It is understandable, though, given the disparity in free throws (4 for UCONN, 14 for Iowa). To me the key question (I don’t know the answer) is, was the same play along with others consistently not being called until UCONN had the ball and a chance to win, with 6 seconds or whatever left? The NCAA and the media undoubtedly would prefer to have Clark in the final. Interest in WCBB by male viewers has increased suddenly and dramatically in the past year, and to them the face of the game is Caitlin Clark.
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Post by UConnChapette on Apr 6, 2024 13:23:57 GMT -5
It may be pointless to you, but it's therapeutic for me being able to vent my frustrations. The game was essentially decided by ticky tac foul call. I wish we could play Iowa next year with a full team so we can open a can of whoop ass on them. Iowa will return to mediocrity next year so maybe that's why they were gifted the game. Fair enough. |
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Post by vtcwbuff on Apr 6, 2024 14:27:12 GMT -5
Can't believe the refs would make that call with the game on the line! And also the other phantom fouls that were called on us. Seems like they wanted to see Clark play one last college game. I think I'll be rooting for South Carolina now and hoping they wipe the floor with Iowa. We got Sarah though, so that brightens my day. Not me. I hope that Clark goes off for 60 against SC. Iowa had nothing to do with that call so why hate on them?
As for the game outcome, Bueckers had it right.
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Post by justinesguy on Apr 6, 2024 15:11:22 GMT -5
I agree with you. The NCAA/ Networks wanted Iowa. Not saying the game was rigged but I can see how one can think they were going to get Iowa in there!
I respect Iowa so much. It’s nothing personal. I just wish the refs did the right thing and let the play continue.
It robbed us of a potential classic ending.
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Post by yetanotherwilliams on Apr 6, 2024 15:31:08 GMT -5
I was proud that the girls had the maturity not to fuss too much about the questionable call. They missed a lot of shots, and committed a lot of turnovers -- one fewer miscue and that last play probably has little or no significance. I thought the pick itself was OK, but (and they didn't show this on most of the two-second replays that I saw) Aaliyah, was kind of late getting to the spot where she set the pick, and you have to give the defender time to change direction or stop. It was unusual that UConn were called for so many more fouls than Iowa (and shot, IIRC, ten fewer free throws) but if you let a game go down to the wire, both teams are at the mercy of a call/no call controversy in the waning seconds. I remember a game a few years ago (when, I believe it was Baylor but could be wrong) lost a playoff game to UConn at the buzzer on a controversial call. You win some, you lose some.
My affection for this year's team will endure for a very long time, regardless of the outcome of Friday night's game. It would have been nice if they had won, but I could not possibly appreciate them any more. Despite some reverses, it was a rewarding and exhilarating season.
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Post by vtcwbuff on Apr 6, 2024 16:06:49 GMT -5
I don't think the call was questionable. I think making the call at that point of the game was terrible. I have always felt that refs should not determine the outcome of the game in the closing seconds.
If the call had not been made Bueckers may have dropped a 3 to win the game. Or she may have missed the shot and Iowa would have won. Either way the ending would have been acceptable to most fans.
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Post by yetanotherwilliams on Apr 6, 2024 19:29:25 GMT -5
"If the call had not been made Bueckers may have dropped a 3 to win the game. Or she may have missed the shot and Iowa would have won. Either way the ending would have been acceptable to most fans."
But what if the screen had been allowed and Paige had taken that shot, and a defender made ever-so-slight contact with her shooting arm and the shot just missed and the refs didn't call the 'foul' because, well, there were only a few seconds left in the game and they felt that they should just let the players play. I think everyone (or almost everyone) on this board, would be screaming that Paige was fouled and deserved three free throws.
How many times a year do you see a player driving the lane in the closing seconds of a one-point game, hoping to draw a foul, and there is *some* contact. Invariably all of the fans of the team with the ball scream "FOUL!" and the fans of the defensive team yell, "You can't call a foul in that situation!"
The officials can't win -- no matter what they do a very large number of people are going to feel cheated. All they can do is use their judgment -- without the benefit of slow-motion replay.
Out of bounds calls in the last minute are reviewable, and subject to endless replays at the scorer's table. In my experience, the officials' call on the floor turns out to be correct the vast majority of the time. They're not perfect, but they're not biased. They do the best they can, and, just like even the very best players, they sometimes make a bad mistake.
The only perfect answer to the problem is to play significantly better than your opponent so that the game doesn't depend on one or two close calls. That's been true since about three weeks after James Naismith hung up that first peach basket and it'll be true when Caitlin and Paige hang up their sneakers.
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