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Post by magic on May 8, 2024 6:51:29 GMT -5
My point was , people have stated all year tht it was difficult for Ice to get back in the " groove" because of her injury rehab and probably the mental aspects that went long with it . Azzi has had multiple knee injuries and has not been able to complete a season heathy. While myself, like many here expect her to star next to Paige in the backcourt, I will be guarded until I see her punishing opponents next March. I hope Caroline can return healthy and can contribute as we know she's capable of. We take a lot for granted . I think every teams needs to play their best to get to the FF. Uconn has had more injuries than most teams , consequently more question marks. It's all about championships. That's what I've been told by the team and Geno every year. If everyone is healthy and Jana and SS are impactful , Huskies are as good as anyone. That’s fine Magic and totally different than saying every player has to have a personal best season, which we all would love by the way. They both mean the same thing.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 7:47:24 GMT -5
Every Husky will have to have their personal best season to make the FF. 1. Do you agree that UConn's roster 1-14 is as good as any in WCBB? 2. So does your statement hold true for all the other Top 10 talented teams? When you have 14 players, you don't need EVERY player to have their personal best season to make the Final Four. I'll take it a step further. You don't need EVERY player to have their personal best season to win a championship. Obviously, first time players are going to have their personal best season since it's their only season. It's also their personal worst. At least so far. For those players, El Alfy, Strong, Ziebell and Cheli, all you can hope for is steady improvement over the season. That leaves ten players. Of those if the majority of those have their best seasons, UConn can make the final four and win it all. Most likely players to accomplish that? Bueckers, Chen, Ice, Arnold, Shade and Samuels. All coming back after a healthy season. Because they are coming back from injuries, it's tough to say if Fudd, Griffin, Patterson, and Ducharme can have their best season. But if healthy, even equalling their best seasons (other than Patterson) would be good enough to add to the six players I mentioned to have their best seasons will bring a final four and a possible championship. My point? I don't think every player has to have their best season ever to get to the final four. Just 7-8 of the right ones. One more thing. Was Paige's freshman year her best? Or was it her was it last season? I'll take a combination of both seasons next year. If that happens and she actually has her best season? Katy bar the door, UConn has a championship in sight!!
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Post by meyers7 on May 8, 2024 7:52:52 GMT -5
That’s fine Magic and totally different than saying every player has to have a personal best season, which we all would love by the way. They both mean the same thing. No they don't. Very, very different.
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Post by magic on May 8, 2024 9:44:20 GMT -5
Every Husky will have to have their personal best season to make the FF. 1. Do you agree that UConn's roster 1-14 is as good as any in WCBB? 2. So does your statement hold true for all the other Top 10 talented teams? When you have 14 players, you don't need EVERY player to have their personal best season to make the Final Four. I'll take it a step further. You don't need EVERY player to have their personal best season to win a championship. Obviously, first time players are going to have their personal best season since it's their only season. It's also their personal worst. At least so far. For those players, El Alfy, Strong, Ziebell and Cheli, all you can hope for is steady improvement over the season. That leaves ten players. Of those if the majority of those have their best seasons, UConn can make the final four and win it all. Most likely players to accomplish that? Bueckers, Chen, Ice, Arnold, Shade and Samuels. All coming back after a healthy season. Because they are coming back from injuries, it's tough to say if Fudd, Griffin, Patterson, and Ducharme can have their best season. But if healthy, even equalling their best seasons (other than Patterson) would be good enough to add to the six players I mentioned to have their best seasons will bring a final four and a possible championship. My point? I don't think every player has to have their best season ever to get to the final four. Just 7-8 of the right ones. One more thing. Was Paige's freshman year her best? Or was it her was it last season? I'll take a combination of both seasons next year. If that happens and she actually has her best season? Katy bar the door, UConn has a championship in sight!! There was no point this past season where I thought Paige was 100% back from what I saw from her freshman season. Now of course, Paige was utilized differently which has something to do with it. I believe her rebounding improved as well as different aspects of her defense. However , I personally thought her passing was a little off as was her 3 pt. shooting.
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Post by bulkey on May 8, 2024 10:00:08 GMT -5
There was no point this past season where I thought Paige was 100% back from what I saw from her freshman season. Now of course, Paige was utilized differently which has something to do with it. I believe her rebounding improved as well as different aspects of her defense. However , I personally thought her passing was a little off as was her 3 pt. shooting. Hoping you're not looking for a lot of "likes" for this post.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 10:10:32 GMT -5
1. Do you agree that UConn's roster 1-14 is as good as any in WCBB? 2. So does your statement hold true for all the other Top 10 talented teams? When you have 14 players, you don't need EVERY player to have their personal best season to make the Final Four. I'll take it a step further. You don't need EVERY player to have their personal best season to win a championship. Obviously, first time players are going to have their personal best season since it's their only season. It's also their personal worst. At least so far. For those players, El Alfy, Strong, Ziebell and Cheli, all you can hope for is steady improvement over the season. That leaves ten players. Of those if the majority of those have their best seasons, UConn can make the final four and win it all. Most likely players to accomplish that? Bueckers, Chen, Ice, Arnold, Shade and Samuels. All coming back after a healthy season. Because they are coming back from injuries, it's tough to say if Fudd, Griffin, Patterson, and Ducharme can have their best season. But if healthy, even equalling their best seasons (other than Patterson) would be good enough to add to the six players I mentioned to have their best seasons will bring a final four and a possible championship. My point? I don't think every player has to have their best season ever to get to the final four. Just 7-8 of the right ones. One more thing. Was Paige's freshman year her best? Or was it her was it last season? I'll take a combination of both seasons next year. If that happens and she actually has her best season? Katy bar the door, UConn has a championship in sight!! There was no point this past season where I thought Paige was 100% back from what I saw from her freshman season. Now of course, Paige was utilized differently which has something to do with it. I believe her rebounding improved as well as different aspects of her defense. However , I personally thought her passing was a little off as was her 3 pt. shooting. I could agree she was better in many ways her freshman season. But by tournament time she was. Every bit as good as she has ever been. I can see her even better in 24-25. POY!
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Post by bulkey on May 8, 2024 10:35:15 GMT -5
Paige was playing a new role this year. She had been the facilitator/distributor who at key moments made the essential shot or, in overtime, took over.
This year, she played the 3 and then the 4. She had the burdens of being consistently more score-minded as well as playing bigger: rebounding and blocking shots and defending larger players. IIRC, this former point guard even jumped center for the tipoff once.
She essentially had to relearn her role, which she did brilliantly, now that she's a lot stronger. But the cost, to fans, is that a lot of the earlier balletic finesse, the wow in her game, was sacrificed for what the team needed. The result is that she is now capable of everything and every imaginable skill going forward in college and especially in the WNBA.
I'm with Geno: she's greater than ever.
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Post by grrrrr on May 8, 2024 11:11:32 GMT -5
Paige was playing a new role this year. She had been the facilitator/distributor who at key moments made the essential shot or, in overtime, took over. This year, she played the 3 and then the 4. She had the burdens of being consistently more score-minded as well as playing bigger: rebounding and blocking shots and defending larger players. IIRC, this former point guard even jumped center for the tipoff once. She essentially had to relearn her role, which she did brilliantly, now that she's a lot stronger. But the cost, to fans, is that a lot of the earlier balletic finesse, the wow in her game, was sacrificed for what the team needed. The result is that she is now capable of everything and every imaginable skill going forward in college and especially in the WNBA. I'm with Geno: she's greater than ever. Coming back from two very serious knee injuries. Playing out of position, totally out of position. I actually do not see how she could have played much better.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 11:45:36 GMT -5
Paige was playing a new role this year. She had been the facilitator/distributor who at key moments made the essential shot or, in overtime, took over. This year, she played the 3 and then the 4. She had the burdens of being consistently more score-minded as well as playing bigger: rebounding and blocking shots and defending larger players. IIRC, this former point guard even jumped center for the tipoff once. She essentially had to relearn her role, which she did brilliantly, now that she's a lot stronger. But the cost, to fans, is that a lot of the earlier balletic finesse, the wow in her game, was sacrificed for what the team needed. The result is that she is now capable of everything and every imaginable skill going forward in college and especially in the WNBA. I'm with Geno: she's greater than ever. I agree pretty much with everything except that we did t see the wow factor as much. I saw plenty.
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Post by bulkey on May 8, 2024 12:06:41 GMT -5
Who's left? Mary Ashley Stevenson (6'2" Purdue). She had a really outstanding freshman year, averaging 10 and 5 against very solid competition. I'm surprised she's still in play. And maybe a brainiac, too (at least she went to Dalton). She's from NYC, and maybe wants to get back east. But it would be a 3 year commitment, and does UConn really want that? UConn already has an amazing 6'2" player for next year and aspirations for other greats the following year. She's gonna be really, really good, and too bad it's not a great fit. I'm betting another school in Indiana has its eyes on her.... Stevenson's wearing the Beers-like face mask. She is gonna be a player! She's right-handed, but note that left-handed jump hook at the begining.
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Post by linkster on May 8, 2024 12:53:06 GMT -5
You're right. We're doomed. in the past three years, each has been worse in injury impact than the previous ... and worse than most periods in history. Surely, that will continue and this season we'll have two all-star teams riding the pine. Or ... maybe they should just stop summer workouts altogether, just show up in November and throw out a ball. And we'll get Nike to make a new uni line with bubble-wrap and everyone will wear braces on every joint.... Okay, tongue returning to inside my teeth. My point was , people have stated all year tht i t was difficult for Ice to get back in the " groove" because of her injury rehab and probably the mental aspects that went long with it . Azzi has had multiple knee injuries and has not been able to complete a season heathy. While myself, like many here expect her to star next to Paige in the backcourt, I will be guarded until I see her punishing opponents next March. I hope Caroline can return healthy and can contribute as we know she's capable of. We take a lot for granted . I think every teams needs to play their best to get to the FF. Uconn has had more injuries than most teams , consequently more question marks. It's all about championships. That's what I've been told by the team and Geno every year. If everyone is healthy and Jana and SS are impactful , Huskies are as good as anyone. Sometimes I wonder if Magic is an incognito Creme. Sorry Magic. No offense if you aren't. But like Charlie you have one standard for all of D1 and another, much tougher standard for UConn. There are some really talented starting fives in D1 but other than SCar they lack the depth that Magic seems to think is necessary for UConn to win a tournament title. But then only UConn loses players to injury, right? Ask NDame. Ask Harmon at Texas. Go ahead and question UConn's chances but then point out what could go wrong with every contender in D1. USC, LSU, Texas, NDame and probably a couple more are considered title contenders in 2025. There will be a few very powerful starting teams among them but they all lack the depth of UConn (even minus a couple of the wounded). I swore last summer that I would ignore Creme but he's like a cough that won't go away. If Strong had picked Maryland the Turtles would likely be on Creme's "2025 contender" list right now. But she picked UConn so he describes her status as "inexperienced freshman" who will be no more than a place-holder in 2025. Remember that Watkins & Hidalgo were also "inexperienced freshmen". I think UConn's 2025 freshmen class is at least as good as Bueckers' class and as a group will make significant to huge contributions this coming season. Most wcbb media types seem to think that the sudden popularity boost in wcbb is due to there being "parity", at least in the top 10 so they throw shade on UConn. Has even one ESPN employee asked Geno one question about the impact that Strong will likely have? Crickets. What they should ponder is the possibility that she leads the country in 3pt shooting next season. She's a ++ 3 pt shooter, a ++ rebounder and a +++passer according to multiple coaches. If fate allows it we are looking at a team with 2 superstars (and a third if healthy) on the court together. That usually ends well for UConn.
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Post by magic on May 8, 2024 14:28:14 GMT -5
I hate Creme !
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 14:36:47 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on May 8, 2024 14:42:30 GMT -5
My point was , people have stated all year tht i t was difficult for Ice to get back in the " groove" because of her injury rehab and probably the mental aspects that went long with it . Azzi has had multiple knee injuries and has not been able to complete a season heathy. While myself, like many here expect her to star next to Paige in the backcourt, I will be guarded until I see her punishing opponents next March. I hope Caroline can return healthy and can contribute as we know she's capable of. We take a lot for granted . I think every teams needs to play their best to get to the FF. Uconn has had more injuries than most teams , consequently more question marks. It's all about championships. That's what I've been told by the team and Geno every year. If everyone is healthy and Jana and SS are impactful , Huskies are as good as anyone. Sometimes I wonder if Magic is an incognito Creme. Sorry Magic. No offense if you aren't. But like Charlie you have one standard for all of D1 and another, much tougher standard for UConn. There are some really talented starting fives in D1 but other than SCar they lack the depth that Magic seems to think is necessary for UConn to win a tournament title. But then only UConn loses players to injury, right? Ask NDame. Ask Harmon at Texas. Go ahead and question UConn's chances but then point out what could go wrong with every contender in D1. USC, LSU, Texas, NDame and probably a couple more are considered title contenders in 2025. There will be a few very powerful starting teams among them but they all lack the depth of UConn (even minus a couple of the wounded). I swore last summer that I would ignore Creme but he's like a cough that won't go away. If Strong had picked Maryland the Turtles would likely be on Creme's "2025 contender" list right now. But she picked UConn so he describes her status as "inexperienced freshman" who will be no more than a place-holder in 2025. Remember that Watkins & Hidalgo were also "inexperienced freshmen". I think UConn's 2025 freshmen class is at least as good as Bueckers' class and as a group will make significant to huge contributions this coming season. Most wcbb media types seem to think that the sudden popularity boost in wcbb is due to there being "parity", at least in the top 10 so they throw shade on UConn. Has even one ESPN employee asked Geno one question about the impact that Strong will likely have? Crickets. What they should ponder is the possibility that she leads the country in 3pt shooting next season. She's a ++ 3 pt shooter, a ++ rebounder and a +++passer according to multiple coaches. If fate allows it we are looking at a team with 2 superstars (and a third if healthy) on the court together. That usually ends well for UConn. Agree with all your analyses of Sarah’s skills. Add to those her extreme aggressiveness. She is relentless and simply does not back down. Ditto Jana. These two together are going to wear down defenders. Hoping they inspire Ice to get just as mean. People say UConn plays “pretty ball.” These two are gonna change people’s minds.
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Post by magic on May 8, 2024 17:22:48 GMT -5
There was no point this past season where I thought Paige was 100% back from what I saw from her freshman season. Now of course, Paige was utilized differently which has something to do with it. I believe her rebounding improved as well as different aspects of her defense. However , I personally thought her passing was a little off as was her 3 pt. shooting. Hoping you're not looking for a lot of "likes" for this post. Unlike most people who are looking for agreement with their position, I'm not. I state my case as I see it. I find it funny when someone lists several opininions that are disliked. I mean do you really disagree with every single thing ? I'm not saying you personally, BULKEY. But, some people are unable to follow their favorite team and still remain truthfully objective. Then there is the basketbll style conversations. I enjoy a more traditional basketbal style , like was played in the 60's , 70's and 80's. I have never been fond of watching 5 out offenses . I believe teams need post play, rebounding, and a great PG to to win championships.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 17:23:50 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if Magic is an incognito Creme. Sorry Magic. No offense if you aren't. But like Charlie you have one standard for all of D1 and another, much tougher standard for UConn. There are some really talented starting fives in D1 but other than SCar they lack the depth that Magic seems to think is necessary for UConn to win a tournament title. But then only UConn loses players to injury, right? Ask NDame. Ask Harmon at Texas. Go ahead and question UConn's chances but then point out what could go wrong with every contender in D1. USC, LSU, Texas, NDame and probably a couple more are considered title contenders in 2025. There will be a few very powerful starting teams among them but they all lack the depth of UConn (even minus a couple of the wounded). I swore last summer that I would ignore Creme but he's like a cough that won't go away. If Strong had picked Maryland the Turtles would likely be on Creme's "2025 contender" list right now. But she picked UConn so he describes her status as "inexperienced freshman" who will be no more than a place-holder in 2025. Remember that Watkins & Hidalgo were also "inexperienced freshmen". I think UConn's 2025 freshmen class is at least as good as Bueckers' class and as a group will make significant to huge contributions this coming season. Most wcbb media types seem to think that the sudden popularity boost in wcbb is due to there being "parity", at least in the top 10 so they throw shade on UConn. Has even one ESPN employee asked Geno one question about the impact that Strong will likely have? Crickets. What they should ponder is the possibility that she leads the country in 3pt shooting next season. She's a ++ 3 pt shooter, a ++ rebounder and a +++passer according to multiple coaches. If fate allows it we are looking at a team with 2 superstars (and a third if healthy) on the court together. That usually ends well for UConn. Agree with all your analyses of Sarah’s skills. Add to those her extreme aggressiveness. She is relentless and simply does not back down. Ditto Jana. These two together are going to wear down defenders. Hoping they inspire Ice to get just as mean. People say UConn plays “pretty ball.” These two are gonna change people’s minds. I can only dream of Chen, Fudd, Bueckers, Strong and El Alfy on the court at the same time. Sorry fans of South Carolina, USC, Notre Dame and Texas. UConn is better. Oh yeah, KK, Ashlynn, Ice, Caroline, Aubrey, Ayanna, Q, Morgan, and Allie off the bench. Top that!!
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 17:31:59 GMT -5
Hoping you're not looking for a lot of "likes" for this post. Unlike most people who are looking for agreement with their position, I'm not. I state my case as I see it. I find it funny when someone lists several opininions that are disliked. I mean do you really disagree with every single thing ? I'm not saying you personally, BULKEY. But, some people are unable to follow their favorite team and still remain truthfully objective. Then there is the basketbll style conversations. I enjoy a more traditional basketbal style , like was played in the 60's , 70's and 80's. I have never been fond of watching 5 out offenses . I believe teams need post play, rebounding, and a great PG to to win championships. And some posters just like to be contrary, make believe they are just being "honest" and "a realist" so they can downplay players and coaching of the team they supposedly root for. Truthfully objective...lol. Nope, that is not what you are doing. You are just giing your opinion like everyone else does. You just don't like when most people think that is a crappy opinion. But keep on posting. I do enjoy it.
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Post by magic on May 8, 2024 17:39:12 GMT -5
Agree with all your analyses of Sarah’s skills. Add to those her extreme aggressiveness. She is relentless and simply does not back down. Ditto Jana. These two together are going to wear down defenders. Hoping they inspire Ice to get just as mean. People say UConn plays “pretty ball.” These two are gonna change people’s minds. I can only dream of Chen, Fudd, Bueckers, Strong and El Alfy on the court at the same time. Sorry fans of South Carolina, USC, Notre Dame and Texas. UConn is better. Oh yeah, KK, Ashlynn, Ice, Caroline, Aubrey, Ayanna, Q, Morgan, and Allie off the bench. Top that!! ND has a formiddable unit. Hidalgo, Citron, Miles, Karlen and Koval/ Westbelt . This group is going to be a handful. Uconn's bench should be better . Truthfully, I believe there are 5 teams plus UCLA. I'm sure a few others will emerge depending on portal chemistry.
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Post by magic on May 8, 2024 17:42:15 GMT -5
Unlike most people who are looking for agreement with their position, I'm not. I state my case as I see it. I find it funny when someone lists several opininions that are disliked. I mean do you really disagree with every single thing ? I'm not saying you personally, BULKEY. But, some people are unable to follow their favorite team and still remain truthfully objective. Then there is the basketbll style conversations. I enjoy a more traditional basketbal style , like was played in the 60's , 70's and 80's. I have never been fond of watching 5 out offenses . I believe teams need post play, rebounding, and a great PG to to win championships. And some posters just like to be contrary, make believe they are just being "honest" and "a realist" so they can downplay players and coaching of the team they supposedly root for. Truthfully objective...lol. Nope, that is not what you are doing. You are just giing your opinion like everyone else does. You just don't like when most people think that is a crappy opinion. But keep on posting. I do enjoy it. It's still my opinion , so frankly I don't get your point. I know your a wording junky. I'm telling you what I think, regardless of what you think of it. That's what I call objective.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 18:43:31 GMT -5
And some posters just like to be contrary, make believe they are just being "honest" and "a realist" so they can downplay players and coaching of the team they supposedly root for. Truthfully objective...lol. Nope, that is not what you are doing. You are just giing your opinion like everyone else does. You just don't like when most people think that is a crappy opinion. But keep on posting. I do enjoy it. It's still my opinion , so frankly I don't get your point. I know your a wording junky. I'm telling you what I think, regardless of what you think of it. That's what I call objective. Objective - not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. No, you are not being objective.
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Post by UConnChapette on May 8, 2024 18:47:19 GMT -5
Oh yes. We are officially in the off season once the bickering starts.
Going back to my short-term disability and visiting my 92-year-old dad. Tomorrow I will bicker with my sister. Oh what fun that will be.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 8, 2024 18:53:08 GMT -5
Oh yes. We are officially in the off season once the bickering starts. Going back to my short-term disability and visiting my 92-year-old dad. Tomorrow I will bicker with my sister. Oh what fun that will be. My wife and I are packing our condo before we close on 6/5. Hopefully we don't kill each other. Posting here? It's like throwing kisses.
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Post by linkster on May 8, 2024 19:13:15 GMT -5
I can only dream of Chen, Fudd, Bueckers, Strong and El Alfy on the court at the same time. Sorry fans of South Carolina, USC, Notre Dame and Texas. UConn is better. Oh yeah, KK, Ashlynn, Ice, Caroline, Aubrey, Ayanna, Q, Morgan, and Allie off the bench. Top that!! ND has a formiddable unit. Hidalgo, Citron, Miles, Karlen and Koval/ Westbelt . This group is going to be a handful. Uconn's bench should be better . Truthfully, I believe there are 5 teams plus UCLA. I'm sure a few others will emerge depending on portal chemistry. An objective observer would say that Miles may or may not return to her 2023 form. Just like Fudd et al. Koval is an untested freshman. Is Citron more likely to re-injure herself now that she has had a serious injury? Is that your formidable unit? What's their depth at the post? A freshman plus a player who may or may not be ready on 11-1. Sounds like a team with major question marks. (using the "objective" standards you have for UConn)
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Post by meyers7 on May 9, 2024 12:50:14 GMT -5
Hoping you're not looking for a lot of "likes" for this post. Unlike most people who are looking for agreement with their position, I'm not. I state my case as I see it. I find it funny when someone lists several opininions that are disliked. I mean do you really disagree with every single thing ? I'm not saying you personally, BULKEY. But, some people are unable to follow their favorite team and still remain truthfully objective. Then there is the basketbll style conversations. I enjoy a more traditional basketbal style , like was played in the 60's , 70's and 80's. I have never been fond of watching 5 out offenses . I believe teams need post play, rebounding, and a great PG to to win championships. Nobody can be a fan of a team (or against at team) and be completely objective. Everyone is always gonna have a bias. Some have bigger biases, some smaller. But all have them. all/nobody/everyone includes you, me, doggy, bulkey, and every other poster on here.
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Post by ucchamp on May 9, 2024 14:07:18 GMT -5
Hoping you're not looking for a lot of "likes" for this post. Then there is the basketbll style conversations. I enjoy a more traditional basketbal style , like was played in the 60's , 70's and 80's. I have never been fond of watching 5 out offenses . I believe teams need post play, rebounding, and a great PG to to win championships. I have an opposite view ever since I started watching hoop as a kid. I was fan of 69-70 Knicks and onward. Reed was a small center – and the rival was Wilt (Then later Wilt and Alcindor). He had to score mostly from the outside. In game 5 on Championship reed was hurt and Dave Debuscherre had to guard Wilt as well as Games 6 and 7. And when Reed was hurt or played in subsequent years along with Jery Lucas vs Alcindor. And the Knicks small centers were very successful vs Alcindor when he was on the Bucks early. Our centers scored from the outside. And as a Men's UCONN fan when i was small – when our teams had to play against bigger teams when we were Yankee Conference like Syracuse etc. – they were always bigger. We have to be different. And I felt the biggest failure in CBB I saw was that Dom Peron went too traditional with Corny Thompson and Chuck Aleksinas. We were thought of a slow traditional team. And i always rooted for the samller "Eastern Basketball" teams. Overall this why I value Auriemma as much as I do is due to the fact he dismissed traditional and works toward playing his best. A style that best suits the players on his team. It just happens to be guards. SO why go against what is your strength? I understand for each person you like what you like. Well I grew up liking going away from Traditional (I felt Wilt and Alcindor were “Traditional big low posts- so I wanted my smaller Knicks to beat them ). I loved the Suns with Alvan Adams going against a smaller but physical Dave Cowens etc. I loved Bird (Bird was a point-forward) and Magic (was a pg but not guarding other pgs more like guarding SF's) over the big low posts etc. So Geno is kind of in my zone that I’ve always believed in.
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