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Post by bulkey on Feb 27, 2023 23:38:29 GMT -5
Blames everyone on the team, certainly including himself.
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Post by rukia on Feb 27, 2023 23:41:13 GMT -5
Yes, it was a fascinating presser.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 27, 2023 23:50:16 GMT -5
At 22:30 ff. really struggling to praise and yet call out Nika. Walking a fine line there.
Criticizing without naming Aaliyah after that about the big throws that sailed out of the court. He says, he believes you do what you do best, and save the development of weaker skills for the summer. True!
He ends by saying the team could still fool him (to the upside).
finally: "I knew I should have got on the plane with Stewie in 2016." Wow.
But what he's reflecting is the rapidly changing player culture, not just the NIL/Portal, etc., but the way kids are coached and trained before college, the expectations of college, etc. Whether or not he's right about all this, it's what he feels.
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Post by msf22b on Feb 28, 2023 0:08:43 GMT -5
A man who has no idea what went wrong and has no idea how to fix it
Delusional
We all used to howl with derision when JoAnne at Duke used to throw her players under the bus. Geno just through his whole team under the bus
I'm listening???
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 0:37:28 GMT -5
A man who has no idea what went wrong and has no idea how to fix it Delusional We all used to howl with derision when JoAnne at Duke used to throw her players under the bus. Geno just through his whole team under the bus I'm listening??? how many times are you going to post this here and on the radioactive no-fly zone? Actually, I didn't hear it that way, but what's the point?
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Post by rukia on Feb 28, 2023 0:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Feb 28, 2023 1:20:32 GMT -5
Based on the article - Adia Barnes had some thoughts in a similar vein after a couple of losses out here in Arizona. Bulkey I think correctly identifies a root in the way players develop before they get to college. Refreshing when you hear Geno, Adia and other coaches say what they thinking. They acknowledge that they came up short, but they are pretty straightforward about what is happening with the team. It has been an unusual season. Based on history, I am still expecting to see you guys in the final four. Everything can be fixed, really.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 2:17:10 GMT -5
Meditating on this, what jumps out at me is Geno's charge that they don't communicate on defense. It's true, looking back, that I can't remember them calling out things. Even though it's not been the defense that's been the problem on the scoreboard, a fully interactive full switching man-to-man defense is the heart of Geno's game and vision. What's the problem? It could just be for the reasons Geno stated: it's systemic to the new athletic culture. But maybe it's more random. Maybe there just isn't a real leader out there. Nika tries it often, but she's capable still of acting on her own. Dorka's too nice to really take charge; Aaliyah's quiet; Aubrey's silent; Lou just goes about her own business. Caroline yells sometimes, but has her own challenges. Of course.... IT'S PAIGE. She's the straw that stirs the drink. She's the one you don't want to disappoint. She's the one who says, "lose? lose? I'll show you who's not going to lose. I'll drop 14 this quarter." Not ever great Geno team had a great leader. Maya led quiety. Ditto Stewie. D of course was all leader. But maybe with both current stressed circumstances and the systemic changes in culture, UConn just needs someone out there who yells: "call out your switches!!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2023 2:42:13 GMT -5
A man who has no idea what went wrong and has no idea how to fix it Delusional We all used to howl with derision when JoAnne at Duke used to throw her players under the bus. Geno just through his whole team under the bus I'm listening??? You hear what YOU WANT to hear? Geno was quite specific as to what needs to be 'fixed': First off, at about the 1:00 mark, he said the team needs to take responsibility for themselves and stop blaming injuries or fatigue for their inconsistencies. When this team does finally get a small lead, they often don't 'clamp down' on defense and go on a run. They too often make mental mistakes and allow their opponent to keep up with them. Shortly after that he mentioned the failure of the team to communicate on defense. Watch the first stretch of the game where Patterson comes in and she back to back misses her defensive assignment. She and Edwards BOTH not communicating. 5:30 We run up and down the court well, but we don't think very well At about the 6:00 mark Geno talked about players being selfsih and not wanting to change bad habits. They've had about 30 games played this season and there's been ample time to 'correct' poor habits, but that takes mental effort and discipline on the part of the individual players. Xavier is a lot better than our guys want to give them credit for. We're too immature. 8:00 and he's talking about the team only following a small segment of the game plan which the coaching staff taught them. 9:00 we look like a poorly coached team. 12:00 too many inconsistencies since the SC game especially. A few minutes later, the players pick and choose what to listen to from their coaching staff. 16:00 Everyone must 'buy in' and play together. 17:00 Eventually, the coaches can't do everything for the team playing on the court.....the team must at some point learn to be decisive in a good way on the court aka coach themselves! I would add that a coach can't call a time out every 5 minutes to baby sit their team. You don't give up the same layup 3X in a row when you're anxious to fix it. At some point, a good team learns and improves; but poor teams don't. Geno also mentioned that the very short bench they have doesn't permit the coaching staff to replace a poorly performing player with a better one off the bench for most of this season. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ I would challenge you to show us where Geno was wrong in his analyses of the team this game and this season? McCall, Holly Warlick and Muffet McGraw during her final season gave very few specifics of what was wrong with their respective teams. None of those 3 coaches had winning records anywhere near as good as UConn has this season. As far as the team getting thrown under the bus; the members of the team need to individually take responsibility for their mental mistakes, inconsistencies and failures to communicate with each other. We just disagree!
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Post by meyers7 on Feb 28, 2023 9:31:20 GMT -5
A man who has no idea what went wrong and has no idea how to fix it Delusional We all used to howl with derision when JoAnne at Duke used to throw her players under the bus. Geno just through his whole team under the bus I'm listening??? Yea, you obviously know nothing about Geno and the program. Maybe shut the front door until you learn.
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Post by grrrrr on Feb 28, 2023 10:26:45 GMT -5
He didn't throw the players under the bus, he threw the entire program, including himself, under the bus. According to Geno, things look fine in practice, when the game starts they revert back to every bad habit they had that was previously corrected. Collectively, at times they all try to do too much. Not a lack of effort, wasted effort. When your exhausted you do make mental mistakes. Combine that with more than one player saying they feel the pressure. Not just the game to game pressure but the pressure that comes from what it say's on the front of the uniform. They know they lack scoring punch. In what Galaxy could you lose two players like Paige and Azzi, go 26-5 and win a conference championship? Take Boston and Cooke out of S. Carolina's lineup and see what happens. Take Clark and Czinano out of the Hawkeyes lineup. Yeah, not so good now are they? And they ain't Paige and Azzi. I guarantee you Geno felt much better after venting. Next game's Saturday. Bleed Blue, All Paws In.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 10:31:46 GMT -5
A man who has no idea what went wrong and has no idea how to fix it Delusional We all used to howl with derision when JoAnne at Duke used to throw her players under the bus. Geno just through his whole team under the bus I'm listening??? Yea, you obviously know nothing about Geno and the program. Maybe shut the front door until you learn. He just loved the phrase "throwing under the bus." He used in 2x here and at least once on TOB. By the way, that's been picked up on the ND board. They like that!
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Post by rukia on Feb 28, 2023 10:32:47 GMT -5
I watch a depressed press conference like that and worry about recruiting. Probably the last thing on some people’s minds. But it was what I was thinking about.
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Post by UConnChapette on Feb 28, 2023 10:45:01 GMT -5
I think most players who come to UConn want to hear it like it is. They know it will make them a better player by the time their careers end. I am not worried about recruiting.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 10:47:27 GMT -5
I think most players who come to UConn want to hear it like it is. They know it will make them a better player by the time their careers end. I am not worried about recruiting. And most of their parents!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2023 10:50:10 GMT -5
I think most players who come to UConn want to hear it like it is. They know it will make them a better player by the time their careers end. I am not worried about recruiting. Exactly, and what other coaching staff could have negotiated the past 3 seasons with Covid and massive injuries? The answer is NONE. Our recruiting will be just fine and our coaching staff has adapted; looking overseas when appropriate for new talent.
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Post by swash on Feb 28, 2023 11:47:03 GMT -5
Meditating on this, what jumps out at me is Geno's charge that they don't communicate on defense. It's true, looking back, that I can't remember them calling out things. Even though it's not been the defense that's been the problem on the scoreboard, a fully interactive full switching man-to-man defense is the heart of Geno's game and vision. What's the problem? It could just be for the reasons Geno stated: it's systemic to the new athletic culture. But maybe it's more random. Maybe there just isn't a real leader out there. Nika tries it often, but she's capable still of acting on her own. Dorka's too nice to really take charge; Aaliyah's quiet; Aubrey's silent; Lou just goes about her own business. Caroline yells sometimes, but has her own challenges. Of course.... IT'S PAIGE. She's the straw that stirs the drink. She's the one you don't want to disappoint. She's the one who says, "lose? lose? I'll show you who's not going to lose. I'll drop 14 this quarter." Not ever great Geno team had a great leader. Maya led quiety. Ditto Stewie. D of course was all leader. But maybe with both current stressed circumstances and the systemic changes in culture, UConn just needs someone out there who yells: "call out your switches!!" Note also that last night, there were a lot of minutes from those who haven't had that role and take an extra half second to react ... or even recognize which voice to hear in the cacophony of a packed Gampel. Remember, as pointed out in a great post yesterday, the bench last night consisted of the 12th, 13th, and a bonus 14th options per the roster we should have been fielding. With Dorka on the shelf, Aaliyah and Aubrey are also out of position. Not unfamiliar, but less perfectly aligned to their abilities and skills. Caroline played probably 10-12 more minutes than was likely planned. ... and they won the game. Let's not get too morose folks. If this were a flight and the instruments failed and the pilots were out of commission and somehow someone was able to land safely but ran onto the grass between runways ... take a deep breath and realize how much worse this flight might have been, rather than restating how bad it was that the altimeter broke. I recommend one of these lines of thought ... 1. Kudos to the kids for giving everything they had in the face of impossible circumstances. Celebrate the closeout of the season as gravy over how bad it might have been. 2. Hope. Hope for the Azzi and Dorka and Lou ... et al. to get healthy. Hope for the few days of rest to help Aaliyah and Nika to reenter themselves and return to the stellar play they showed us earlier in the season. Hope for the above to result in a team that can play top 10 or better basketball. Hope that they can build momentum that will carry them to the FF and all the way to confetti. Likely? Of course not. Possible? Yes. That's the thing that makes the tournament so riveting. Even Creighton can play Cinderella. Every team can dream that they'll be the first 12-seed to make the FF or every shot will fall and they'll have a six game winning streak. How much more hope should we have than them? We know our team has the talent. We've seen them play and beat several top teams. 3. Mope about wins that weren't pretty enough. 4. Project disaster for the next game 5. Kibbitz about who to blame. I choose to go with #2, and will fall back to #1 when forced by a season-ending setback. Not so much interested I the rest of the choices.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 11:49:08 GMT -5
I recommend one of these lines of thought ... 1. Kudos to the kids for giving everything they had in the face of impossible circumstances. Celebrate the closeout of the season as gravy over how bad it might have been. 2. Hope. Hope for the Azzi and Dorka and Lou ... et al. to get healthy. Hope for the few days of rest to help Aaliyah and Nika to reenter themselves and return to the stellar play they showed us earlier in the season. Hope for the above to result in a team that can play top 10 or better basketball. Hope that they can build momentum that will carry them to the FF and all the way to confetti. Likely? Of course not. Possible? Yes. That's the thing that makes the tournament so riveting. Even Creighton can play Cinderella. Every team can dream that they'll be the first 12-seed to make the FF or every shot will fall and they'll have a six game winning streak. How much more hope should we have than them? We know our team has the talent. We've seen them play and beat several top teams. 3. Mope about wins that weren't pretty enough. 4. Project disaster for the next game 5. Kibbitz about who to blame. I choose to go with #2, and will fall back to #1 when forced by a season-ending setback. Not so much interested I the rest of the choices. I'm with you: 2 and then 1. Still, I hope someone decides to talk on defense.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 12:19:07 GMT -5
No less a brilliant authority than the World Exposure Report wonders about Geno's future:
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Post by swash on Feb 28, 2023 12:45:34 GMT -5
I watch a depressed press conference like that and worry about recruiting. Probably the last thing on some people’s minds. But it was what I was thinking about. If the team stinks and they lose their next two games, this presser will be moot, dwarfed by the poor showing in the eyes of recruits. Conversely, if they turn it around and run through both tournaments, the victories will also render this Mike-time meaningless. So ... while I agree that a more upbeat soliloquy might be preferred by recruits and their parents, the only thing that matters is motivating this team to achieve to their best ability.
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Post by rukia on Feb 28, 2023 13:00:20 GMT -5
No less a brilliant authority than the World Exposure Report wonders about Geno's future: I mean I can see how he projects that. He looks really unhappy and then his parting shot about the plane and Stewie. I think it is a reasonable conclusion for people that are new to Geno.
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Post by huskyharper on Feb 28, 2023 13:44:39 GMT -5
No less a brilliant authority than the World Exposure Report wonders about Geno's future: I mean I can see how he projects that. He looks really unhappy and then his parting shot about the plane and Stewie. I think it is a reasonable conclusion for people that are new to Geno. Thankfully, we fans know better. That parting shot about the plane and Stewie is locker material for this team. We KNOW he loves this team, even if right now he barely likes them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2023 16:28:12 GMT -5
No less a brilliant authority than the World Exposure Report wonders about Geno's future: Geno has been saying that the players ain't what they used to be for a very long time.
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Post by justinesguy on Feb 28, 2023 17:54:15 GMT -5
No less a brilliant authority than the World Exposure Report wonders about Geno's future: I don’t think it will happen but it’s happening all Around us. Look no further than Jay Wright. He left because he was frustrated with the current climate on college athletics. NIL, portal, the modern athlete and their coachability. . Geno is kinda saying the same thing. If he cannot coach these kids the way he needs to then what good is it? He probably csnnot be as hard on the kids as he was circa 2010 and earlier. It’s a completely different world in what you can do and get away with. I was on campus from 1997-2001. I guarantee the kids cannot get away with the chit we did and the stuff we said. The guy is a legend, it’s a new era, one not as good and not conducive to his coaching style. I wouldn’t be surprised if Geno walk away after next year.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 28, 2023 18:00:25 GMT -5
I don’t think it will happen but it’s happening all Around us. Look no further than Jay Wright. He left because he was frustrated with the current climate on college athletics. NIL, portal, the modern athlete and their coachability. . Geno is kinda saying the same thing. If he cannot coach these kids the way he needs to then what good is it? He probably csnnot be as hard on the kids as he was circa 2010 and earlier. It’s a completely different world in what you can do and get away with. I was on campus from 1997-2001. I guarantee the kids cannot get away with the chit we did and the stuff we said. The guy is a legend, it’s a new era, one not as good and not conducive to his coaching style. I wouldn’t be surprised if Geno walk away after next year. Jay Wright and Geno apparently are very close; certainly mutually admire each other. You could be right. But I'm actually thinking (maybe the polyanna in me) that Geno's going to try to recalibrate, come to some halfway point. Modesty aside, all teachers today are struggling with this and those of us who succeed figure out strategies to make it a Venn Diagram of intersected sensibilities. Looking at what might show up at practice next fall, it's an incredibly deep and talented team. Stanford will have two trees, but not much back court. We'll have an amazing backcourt and pretty good, if largely untested, trees. Game on in 2023/24!
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