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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 10, 2015 8:25:32 GMT -5
Any tech geeks / pros among us who can give a guy an assessment of whether the Windows 10 Free Upgrade Signup is a wise idea or not?
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Post by Icebear on Jun 10, 2015 11:03:22 GMT -5
I find Windows 9 completely unreliable.
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Post by atticusfinch on Jun 10, 2015 14:40:51 GMT -5
I've spent a lifetime building operating systems, compilers, and the software that we use to create and maintain our databases(DBMS's). Tired of living with the effects of the exceptionally poor internal design/structure of Microsoft OS's, I moved my company off of these platforms years ago... it has proven to be a very good decision.
If you expect to kick the bucket in the next few years... then suffer on with a Microsoft OS... if not, go with a unix based OS. Mac OS X or one of the variants of Linux are much much much more reliable, stable, and secure. The trouble with OS X is the cost of Apple products... the problem with Linux platforms revolves around our habit of buying MS products like Word, Excel, and some games... These MS products exist on OS X and these products are easily replaced by products with the same functionality but just with different names on Linux. Nearly every thing that one would wish to do on a personal computer can be done on any of MS, OS X, or Linux. Some games will only work on MS, and there are a few other software developers stick strictly to MS platforms(this is almost always done under contract pressures.
AF
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 10, 2015 19:20:30 GMT -5
I've spent a lifetime building operating systems, compilers, and the software that we use to create and maintain our databases(DBMS's). Tired of living with the effects of the exceptionally poor internal design/structure of Microsoft OS's, I moved my company off of these platforms years ago... it has proven to be a very good decision. If you expect to kick the bucket in the next few years... then suffer on with a Microsoft OS... if not, go with a unix based OS. Mac OS X or one of the variants of Linux are much much much more reliable, stable, and secure. The trouble with OS X is the cost of Apple products... the problem with Linux platforms revolves around our habit of buying MS products like Word, Excel, and some games... These MS products exist on OS X and these products are easily replaced by products with the same functionality but just with different names on Linux. Nearly every thing that one would wish to do on a personal computer can be done on any of MS, OS X, or Linux. Some games will only work on MS, and there are a few other software developers stick strictly to MS platforms(this is almost always done under contract pressures. AF Alas, as Goggle and Apple struggle for ultimate control of all human beings on earth, I am wedded to MS by my absolute hatred of all things Apple. Attachments:
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Post by UConnChapette on Jun 10, 2015 19:59:22 GMT -5
Wait! What? There is a Windows 10? But my company just upgraded to Windows 7 two years ago! Where does the time go???
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 11, 2015 10:06:11 GMT -5
Wait! What? There is a Windows 10? But my company just upgraded to Windows 7 two years ago! Where does the time go??? Pretty smart to stay with 7 I guess. I'm working on 7 on this lap top and it has always been rock solid. But you may know that your company is way ahead of the IRS which was reported to be working with unsupported XT! as one of the reasons for their recent huge hack!! Of course, what has the IRS to worry about, since it's just your information they are exposing and they apparently don't file tax returns!! Oopss, slipped into TOB Cesspool mode there almost!! almost?
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Post by atticusfinch on Jun 11, 2015 13:14:03 GMT -5
I've spent a lifetime building operating systems, compilers, and the software that we use to create and maintain our databases(DBMS's). Tired of living with the effects of the exceptionally poor internal design/structure of Microsoft OS's, I moved my company off of these platforms years ago... it has proven to be a very good decision. If you expect to kick the bucket in the next few years... then suffer on with a Microsoft OS... if not, go with a unix based OS. Mac OS X or one of the variants of Linux are much much much more reliable, stable, and secure. The trouble with OS X is the cost of Apple products... the problem with Linux platforms revolves around our habit of buying MS products like Word, Excel, and some games... These MS products exist on OS X and these products are easily replaced by products with the same functionality but just with different names on Linux. Nearly every thing that one would wish to do on a personal computer can be done on any of MS, OS X, or Linux. Some games will only work on MS, and there are a few other software developers stick strictly to MS platforms(this is almost always done under contract pressures. AF Alas, as Goggle and Apple struggle for ultimate control of all human beings on earth, I am wedded to MS by my absolute hatred of all things Apple. You're not alone in your distain for all things Apple, but having worked in the software tools industry( this means that I worked in companies like Oracle, Lotus, Progress, Bachman, MS, Apple, etc... before starting my own.) since the 1970's, I've designed and implemented system software: OS's, compilers(computer languages) and DBMS's. In part because of this intimate knowledge of this industry I've never understood why folks would distain Apple and accept Microsoft as they are nearly identical in the way their corporate culture sees you. I can tell you with no uncertainty that both distain your world view. I suppose that in the case of Microsoft I'll have to chalk that up to the notion that PR is effective. The differences between MS & Apple exists in two areas. - The 1st centers upon the quality of the internals of the products which we as consumers see as MS's instability and the looooong time periods needed to come up with a new version or repair solution. Apple's products are very rarely unstable, you can count their mishaps one one hand... you'll need a functional computer to count up MS's blunders.
- The 2nd is more personal to me as it is something that is not obvious to the consumer that he /she has been harmed but is very very obvious to the developer that he/she has been harmed. It comes in the amount of control each exerts upon other businesses by way of threat of purely spurious legal action(which even MS acknowledges is spurious but also knows through experience that it is effective as they can tie a targeted company's cash reserves up in legal fees for years which strips the company of the operating capital it needs to develop it's own products thereby destroying the essence of competition. Apple is a puny little dweeb when compared to MS with respect to using their huge pile of cash as a legal dominance weapon). MS also regularly uses the threat of purchase and kill off(which dries up funding sources for the targeted company), and threat of disallowing the use of the most efficient API's by the targeted company's product(yes, they have done that).
The truth is that the Unix platform is well designed, well proven and has been technically refined to a point that the MS platform can only dream of attaining. Unix is a professional high quality OS and the MS OS is more like the product of a drunken weekend in the dorm. When I ran my company on Windows, we had to reboot regularly... once I moved us to OS X, we have never rebooted our servers to 'fix' a troublesome OS. Our servers have only been rebooted when we upgrade to a newer version once every year or so or when critical security patches are needed because a new hacker threat has arisen. Some of our servers have NEVER been rebooted because we didn't need the updates or newer versions in those cases and because they are completely walled off from outside intrusion. We switched in 2006. That's reliability... I suppose that most people don't know that the most successful applications MS sells(Word, Excel, etc...) weren't developed at MS, they were purchased... and this is where I have the greatest distain for MS. Their 'collaboration' practices don't just border upon illegal, they demolish the border... One of the many examples is shown in MS's actions in the case of the MS-IBM collaboration over OS2. It is a perfect example of completely underhanded, completely unethical, and effectively demolishing the integrity border. With the budget of a medium sized nation MS is both willing and able to throw phalanx after phalanx of lawyers at the smaller target company which effectively keeps the wronged party in court until their money runs out and leaves them with no other choice other than to just quit their effort for redress. In the end, it comes down to buying superior well designed and well built software or buying unreliable junk. Personally, I'm unwilling to cut off my nose to spite my face. I'd choose the more reliable product every time. If you can't stomach Apple's culture and are willing to accept the identical culture in MS but are tired of the MS junk, try Linux. You can do this without much turmoil by installing one of the Linux variants(try Ubuntu) as a guest system under the MS OS. This approach preserves your MS system and allows you to try out a Unix system. When you become accustomed to Linux and feel comfortable leaving the other Evil empire then you can install a Linux system as the primary OS. AF
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 11, 2015 14:42:28 GMT -5
Way to much info for me Atticus. No, I do know that generally Apple's QC and execution is better. I hate them because I distain the world that they are busy creating - monkeys wandering the streets fingering a little device, bumping into themselves and moving on to the pizza house the little device is directing them to. I find so ironic that iconic Apple ad with Thor? throwing his hammer....when exactly the opposite is happening and they have become past masters at feeding the drone culture.
I know Linux is superior. I may play around Atticus. thanks
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Post by atticusfinch on Jun 11, 2015 15:45:26 GMT -5
The irony here is that although I've spent a lifetime building the tools that programmers use to build the apps that all of you consumers use, I am a card carrying luddite. I vacation flyfishing in only the remotest of areas where cell phones don't have cell towers to tickle... I don't understand the addictions to tech. I am happiest when living a 1950's lifestyle.
AF
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