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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 8:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on Oct 19, 2021 9:06:02 GMT -5
Oh right, UNC doesn't make the tournament. Sure, Charlie...
And Shea isn't going to be happy either. I'm betting Carla is pissed, too (though admittedly, Penn might actually be better than Princeton this year).
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Post by grrrrr on Oct 19, 2021 11:37:51 GMT -5
Well, it least it gives us something to mull over to pass the time. AP poll has sc #1, us #2 and Leland Stanford Jr. University # 3. Ummm, shouldn't the Card be #1? Ya know, defending champs, enough excellent players to fill 2 teams, Tara. No respect, that should fuel the repeat fire. Thanks AP.
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Post by UConnChapette on Oct 19, 2021 11:48:04 GMT -5
Right now three NBE teams showing up. Yeah, yeah...I know he has Marquette as one of the last four in. Still...a little bit of progress.
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Post by samanthabrown3 on Oct 19, 2021 12:34:07 GMT -5
I guess that it's what they pay him for, but, gee, you'd think he could find better things to do with his time than create a bracket from teams that haven't even played a game. I know you can tell a lot by the roster, but still.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 13:08:45 GMT -5
I guess that it's what they pay him for, but, gee, you'd think he could find better things to do with his time than create a bracket from teams that haven't even played a game. I know you can tell a lot by the roster, but still. Charlie is the world's preeminent Cream Puff connoisseur, but his doctors insist he back away from the bakery from time to time so as to keep his cholesterol out of the danger zone!! Hence; the sweet bracketology deal................  media.giphy.com/media/dYlZG4K0bag12wpmoj/giphy.gif |
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Post by semper on Oct 19, 2021 15:09:20 GMT -5
We ALWAYS get the hardest bracket, be it Puff or the NCAA, always.
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Post by bulkey on Oct 19, 2021 16:43:28 GMT -5
We ALWAYS get the hardest bracket, be it Puff or the NCAA, always. True. But we never lose within the bracket. We always get out of the bracket and lose in the semi-finals. |
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Post by grrrrr on Oct 19, 2021 17:19:51 GMT -5
Well, we don't ALWAYS lose in the semis. It just seems like it. Lately. #12 or bust.
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Post by bulkey on Oct 19, 2021 17:28:06 GMT -5
Well, we don't ALWAYS lose in the semis. It just seems like it. Lately. #12 or bust. True, true. Miswrote. When we lose, it's not within the bracket; it's in the semis.  |
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Post by phil on Oct 19, 2021 19:16:13 GMT -5
Looks like some props for Kara Lawson
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Post by semper on Oct 19, 2021 19:20:30 GMT -5
Well, it's ridiculous to put us on the same side as SCar. Puff drives me crazy.
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Post by linkster on Oct 19, 2021 20:33:46 GMT -5
This bracket is relatively unchanged since it was created last April. S Carolina wasn't anyone's No 1 then. The final AP poll had them 6th. Creme had them as the 4th 1 seed.
The AP poll in Nov & Dec usually follows a pattern where you only go down if you lose and a few teams with marshmallow OOC schedules move up as some above them lose. That shouldn't happen among the top 4. Even Brender has Baylor, NCSt, Stanford & SCar on her schedule.
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Post by phil on Oct 20, 2021 8:09:12 GMT -5
Picking up on the grrrrr & Bulkey exchange:
UConn earned an invite to the tournament 32 times.
In 21 of those appearances (66%, almost two-thirds), UConn reaches the final four, while in only 11 appearances did they lose prior to the final four.
(When I find some time, see if I can come up with the comparable stat for some other teams.)
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Post by meyers7 on Oct 20, 2021 9:02:20 GMT -5
We ALWAYS get the hardest bracket, be it Puff or the NCAA, always. Hard bracket?  That's the easiest bracket I can remember. |
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Post by swash on Oct 20, 2021 9:23:05 GMT -5
Picking up on the grrrrr & Bulkey exchange: UConn earned an invite to the tournament 32 times. In 21 of those appearances (66%, almost two-thirds), UConn reaches the final four, while in only 11 appearances did they lose prior to the final four. (When I find some time, see if I can come up with the comparable stat for some other teams.) Here's how I read those numbers: -Missed tourney 4 - All of them early -Made tourney and out before FF - 11 - also this is starting with Geno and CD arriving. Adjust the start date and it looks a lot better -FF 21 - including the last 12 consecutive opportunities. -NC 11 - same number as exits pre FF, and more than half the times made the FF resulted in NC |
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Post by bulkey on Oct 20, 2021 9:32:31 GMT -5
Geno used to say that the Elite Eight was the toughest game. And I remember once at Bridgeport that I was really worried that he wasn't going to get onto the court at all: completely absent at shoot around, etc. He came out just before tip off, and later said he "had a migraine."
But in recent years, the bottleneck for UConn has been the semis.
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Post by swash on Oct 20, 2021 9:44:15 GMT -5
We ALWAYS get the hardest bracket, be it Puff or the NCAA, always. Hard bracket? That's the easiest bracket I can remember. I think there are three upper echelon teams, then a gap, then a second group (maybe some subset from this group: MD, Louisville, NC State, Oregon, Iowa Baylor, Michigan, Indiana), another gap, then ... the rest. If UCONN is the top overall, why are SCar and Stanford not aligned to play each other in the FF and we should get the bottom #1 ... MD if everyone makes it that far. It does seem that the committee tries to put a lot of tough matchups in the UCONN bracket every year. The 16 that nobody wants to play, then the best eight, four, and two seeds in the tournament. The FF often also seems to require beating the two best other teams to earn the big prize. I'm pretty analytical and I don't think this is just homerism. In fact, I think Geno has manipulated this from being even worse by entertaining such a difficult OOC schedule, because the NCAA tries to avoid repeat matchups when feasible. |
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Post by bulkey on Oct 20, 2021 9:53:09 GMT -5
But it was Arizona, not a top seed, that took down UConn.
Even Geno was angry that UConn had to play Baylor within the bracket, but I think that's a very bad way to approach it. You punch in the face whomever you're playing and complain about seedings after the tournament. You need the swagger to believe you can beat anyone--and everyone!--all night long.
Once you start complaining about the tournament committee or about referee calls, you're halfway to losing the game.
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Post by swash on Oct 20, 2021 12:19:21 GMT -5
But it was Arizona, not a top seed, that took down UConn. Even Geno was angry that UConn had to play Baylor within the bracket, but I think that's a very bad way to approach it. You punch in the face whomever you're playing and complain about seedings after the tournament. You need the swagger to believe you can beat anyone--and everyone!--all night long. Once you start complaining about the tournament committee or about referee calls, you're halfway to losing the game. Ah. For the team, you are absolutely correct. "Bring them on! We'll kick butts and take names." 100% agreed. But as an analytical fan, I know that the odds of beating Baylor were substantially lower than beating MD, Louisville, and TA&M, the other #2 seeds. Sticking with 2021 bracket, now look at the 4's and 5's - by chalk most likely opponents: Indiana, Gonzaga, WV, GT, Arkansas, MoSt ... vs Iowa and Kentucky. Yes. We were correctly favored to beat any of those teams, but which two teams in that list are most capable of an upset? Iowa and Kentucky each were ranked all year, featured a superstar player, had each upset higher ranked teams during regular season. And it isn't just that we were unlucky this time, everyone should expect that to happen here and there. Nearly every year if there is a team labeled as drastically under seeded ... you'll find them on UCONN's list. If a team is super hot at the end of the year, look for them to be in the NE region - or wherever UCONN is placed. No bracket for 2020, but in 2019: UCONN was seeded as a #2 and the #3 seeds were MD, Syracuse, Iowa St, or NC State. Yep. We got MD. Also Regional was in Louisville and getting to the FF required beating ... Louisville. In fact it is so common, that it seems like it simply cannot be pure coincidence. I've offered only a small dataset here. We could go back, but it is tough to remember the teams and reputations entering the tourney back further. But if there is a bracket of death ... you can bet that our huskies will be in it. Cumulatively, a tiny bit of statistical edge adds up. Vegas makes billions (literally) on those tiny statistical "house" advantages. |
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That's the easiest bracket I can remember. 