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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 12:02:09 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on Oct 5, 2021 12:14:22 GMT -5
The best advice I’ve received
It was probably from Coach Auriemma at UConn. He showed me how to work harder than anyone else. He helped me understand that the skills I had and could potentially continue to grow were going to set me apart if I knew how to work hard.
Probably shouldn't besmirch this beautiful article and comment, but it kind of reminds me of what some moron over at the ND site wrote this am:
UConn would like you to believe they measure to a higher standard. But "au contraire", at least in one instance, and probably indicative of others, they decidedly embrace a lower standard. For three years Ohio State measured Dorka Juhasz as 6' 4", but at UConn they use a smaller measuring stick. Suddenly she became 6' 5" 😉. In other news, it turns out UConn's practices aren't nearly as hard, the coaching isn't nearly as good, nor their grit nearly as strong compared to how other colleges measure these things … Busted!
What should we expect of those fans when Muffet herself didn't think Stewie was so good...even after she destroyed ND in the finals.
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Post by UConnChapette on Oct 5, 2021 12:24:04 GMT -5
Muffet's Minions are lucky their team uses the color green so prevalently. The color of jealousy isn't that good of a look on their fans, though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 12:38:52 GMT -5
Muffet's Minions are lucky their team uses the color green so prevalently. The color of jealousy isn't that good of a look on their fans, though. Things have gotten so bad @ Notre Dame that they recently held "walk on" auditions and the Leprechaun is rumored to have sent his resume to UConn..............  Reminds me of how desperate & clueless Miami Vice became; when they sunk to new lows and had me co-star as a clueless undercover FBI investigator.................. imgflip.com/i/5pd3qk |
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Post by chicagogg on Oct 5, 2021 13:29:09 GMT -5
Ohio State is suddenly a measuring stick for honesty and integrity? Who knew and how come? Typical Domers.
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Post by swash on Oct 5, 2021 14:08:06 GMT -5
The best advice I’ve received
It was probably from Coach Auriemma at UConn. He showed me how to work harder than anyone else. He helped me understand that the skills I had and could potentially continue to grow were going to set me apart if I knew how to work hard.Probably shouldn't besmirch this beautiful article and comment, but it kind of reminds me of what some moron over at the ND site wrote this am: UConn would like you to believe they measure to a higher standard. But "au contraire", at least in one instance, and probably indicative of others, they decidedly embrace a lower standard. For three years Ohio State measured Dorka Juhasz as 6' 4", but at UConn they use a smaller measuring stick. Suddenly she became 6' 5" 😉. In other news, it turns out UConn's practices aren't nearly as hard, the coaching isn't nearly as good, nor their grit nearly as strong compared to how other colleges measure these things … Busted!What should we expect of those fans when Muffet herself didn't think Stewie was so good...even after she destroyed ND in the finals. 1. Turns out ... kids ... grow! Who knew? 2. As far as UCONN being easier ... Evidence, please. First that the statement is true (doubtful) and second that they would benefit if they were tougher. 3. Finally, questioning the undisputed GOAT for quality of coaching ... Wait. Are you sure this wasn't on TOB??? |
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Post by vtcwbuff on Oct 5, 2021 16:21:48 GMT -5
"We need to change the game and level up as far as what female athletes deserve, because we put ourselves through a grind and still aren’t always rewarded."
I have a problem with that sort of statement. The WNBA is a business. Their product is entertainment. If the product doesn't provide the revenue how can the business "level up?" Too many female athletes seem to think that just because they work hard they deserve more money.
Stewart's salary is around 200K annually. Add her endorsements and that ain't bad for a part time job.
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Post by huskyharper on Oct 5, 2021 16:52:49 GMT -5
"We need to change the game and level up as far as what female athletes deserve, because we put ourselves through a grind and still aren’t always rewarded."
I have a problem with that sort of statement. The WNBA is a business. Their product is entertainment. If the product doesn't provide the revenue how can the business "level up?" Too many female athletes seem to think that just because they work hard they deserve more money.
Stewart's salary is around 200K annually. Add her endorsements and that ain't bad for a part time job.
A large part of the problem is that the women's game is constantly being compared to the men's game, and their salaries are also being compared. Even if we take the number of games played in each league into account, women are being paid grossly less. Because they have to go overseas to get "the big bucks," they play almost year-round. This does impact them physically, emotionally, etc. I do not have a solution, but anyone who can't live on year-round on $60+K, is living too high on the hog, IMHO. (they got free college education, when they quit playing, they should have another career available? IMO)
Frankly, I think ALL pro athletes are GROSSLY overpaid. The ticket prices are rediculous (sp), and the whole system needs a complete reset monetarily.
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Post by swash on Oct 5, 2021 17:09:33 GMT -5
"We need to change the game and level up as far as what female athletes deserve, because we put ourselves through a grind and still aren’t always rewarded."
I have a problem with that sort of statement. The WNBA is a business. Their product is entertainment. If the product doesn't provide the revenue how can the business "level up?" Too many female athletes seem to think that just because they work hard they deserve more money.
Stewart's salary is around 200K annually. Add her endorsements and that ain't bad for a part time job.
They need to change their methods of advocating for better pay ... but there are nice facts on their side. Audiences are quite good for women's sports, but we still see the NCAA for some reason withholding the branding from the women ... along with a hundred other inequities. Women can and should be self advocates. There is a lot of evidence that the discrepancy in wages is much less if you just name equal jobs. But Women are more likely to go into lower paying jobs. Interestingly, there is a current trend for more men doing that and more women going the other route. |
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Post by linkster on Oct 5, 2021 17:11:40 GMT -5
"We need to change the game and level up as far as what female athletes deserve, because we put ourselves through a grind and still aren’t always rewarded."
I have a problem with that sort of statement. The WNBA is a business. Their product is entertainment. If the product doesn't provide the revenue how can the business "level up?" Too many female athletes seem to think that just because they work hard they deserve more money.
Stewart's salary is around 200K annually. Add her endorsements and that ain't bad for a part time job.
I agree about them earning based on how much revenue they generate by playing but the PT comment ignores that most work all year. |
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Post by swash on Oct 5, 2021 19:38:00 GMT -5
"We need to change the game and level up as far as what female athletes deserve, because we put ourselves through a grind and still aren’t always rewarded."
I have a problem with that sort of statement. The WNBA is a business. Their product is entertainment. If the product doesn't provide the revenue how can the business "level up?" Too many female athletes seem to think that just because they work hard they deserve more money.
Stewart's salary is around 200K annually. Add her endorsements and that ain't bad for a part time job.
I agree about them earning based on how much revenue they generate by playing but the PT comment ignores that most work all year. It's not just revenue. Stewie is on a very short list of the best players on the planet. She is also one of the faces of the league. She's earning well given her options, but if everything else were the same, but gender, she would be receiving much, much more |
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Post by vtcwbuff on Oct 5, 2021 20:43:59 GMT -5
"She's earning well given her options, but if everything else were the same, but gender, she would be receiving much, much more"
Not so. It has less to do with gender and way more to do with revenues generated. If female athletes could generate the monies that male athletes do there would be less disparity. Reality is - most women don't care, or support, female athletes.
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Post by swash on Oct 6, 2021 5:19:13 GMT -5
"She's earning well given her options, but if everything else were the same, but gender, she would be receiving much, much more"
Not so. It has less to do with gender and way more to do with revenues generated. If female athletes could generate the monies that male athletes do there would be less disparity. Reality is - most women don't care, or support, female athletes.
I am not disputing your premise that the WNBA creates less revenue. I am saying that Stewie is elite and gets paid less than the NBA minimum salary. Those are both facts. I say that if women are going to advance from here, the argument shouldn't be focused on how hard they work. That's a losing proposition. A better line would be a real analysis of things like tv viewers and attendance figures and such. The women's game is growing. The men's has been contracting locally, but making up the deficit internationally. |
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Post by semper on Oct 6, 2021 7:38:06 GMT -5
Women's bball is so much more interesting and subtle than men's at present. I think people don't know this maybe because they haven't tried it, or they like run and slam it and run and slam it down again. Nuttin can be done about that. The women are just great athletes, flat out...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 8:51:41 GMT -5
Women's bball is so much more interesting and subtle than men's at present. I think people don't know this maybe because they haven't tried it, or they like run and slam it and run and slam it down again. Nuttin can be done about that. The women are just great athletes, flat out... Spot on!! Also, women's soccer is another great sport to watch!! |
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Post by swash on Oct 6, 2021 9:15:11 GMT -5
Women's bball is so much more interesting and subtle than men's at present. I think people don't know this maybe because they haven't tried it, or they like run and slam it and run and slam it down again. Nuttin can be done about that. The women are just great athletes, flat out... This is a good board to find support for your thought, Semper. We like the Women's game. We can accept that some don't like the game, and some - as you state - just haven't given it a chance. But there are certainly forces "trying" to keep that game down. The NCAA's multitudinous gaffes surrounding the big tournament are examples. Most sportswriters wouldn't mention women ... ever ... except to disparage them on occasion. TV and sports talk radio are also wastelands, where even playoff scores are never mentioned. I laugh when people complain about the WNT not winning gold at two consecutive Olympics, because it is often the same voices that complain about there not being enough parity in women's sports. Which do you want, really? BTW - audiences almost universally grow more in periods of lesser parity, and decline as parity increases ... across all sports. Sports betting may turn out to be a positive influence, because they benefit greatly by having access to a separate group of customers. As many complaints as we may have for ESPN, at least they regularly cover and add content for Women's sports. SI has been taking notice lately of the huge numbers of views of articles about Paige and now Azzi. Hopefully, these will help improve the coverage overall. |
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Post by bulkey on Oct 6, 2021 9:20:42 GMT -5
Women's bball is so much more interesting and subtle than men's at present. I think people don't know this maybe because they haven't tried it, or they like run and slam it and run and slam it down again. Nuttin can be done about that. The women are just great athletes, flat out... This is a good board to find support for your thought, Semper. We like the Women's game. We can accept that some don't like the game, and some - as you state - just haven't given it a chance. But there are certainly forces "trying" to keep that game down. The NCAA's multitudinous gaffes surrounding the big tournament are examples. Most sportswriters wouldn't mention women ... ever ... except to disparage them on occasion. TV and sports talk radio are also wastelands, where even playoff scores are never mentioned. I laugh when people complain about the WNT not winning gold at two consecutive Olympics, because it is often the same voices that complain about there not being enough parity in women's sports. Which do you want, really? BTW - audiences almost universally grow more in periods of lesser parity, and decline as parity increases ... across all sports.Sports betting may turn out to be a positive influence, because they benefit greatly by having access to a separate group of customers. As many complaints as we may have for ESPN, at least they regularly cover and add content for Women's sports. SI has been taking notice lately of the huge numbers of views of articles about Paige and now Azzi. Hopefully, these will help improve the coverage overall. Wow! I learned a lot here. Thanks! |
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