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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 9:14:06 GMT -5
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Sept 22, 2021 9:54:42 GMT -5
It's somewhat discomfiting to hear Geno's fan designated successor flogging away so hard for another school. One of her major themes, that Vandy's quality sells itself, may sell to academically driven students, but the kids you want on your basketball team are looking first at who is on your team, who you play and do you have a winning culture (not to mention how many have gone on to the W). Sorta annoyed with her recruiting bit about UConn controling Connecticut and she has to contend with Tennessee. When was the last time a Connecticut kid was offered? It was a handy contrast to draw, but just not valid. I know. I know. She rightly perceives any published interview as an opportunity to sell.
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Post by semper on Sept 22, 2021 10:05:18 GMT -5
Groan. I think I won't watch....
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Post by semper on Sept 22, 2021 10:05:53 GMT -5
I can't remember other Geno proteges dissing UCONN.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 22, 2021 10:33:02 GMT -5
The part about UConn is minutes 10-12. I don't think she knocks UConn at all. She's saying that Vandy has to compete with Tenn within the state, while UConn didn't have in-state competition. But it wasn't a knock. And she defends UConn as saying that it got the right, not necessarily the best, players, and that's how UConn has stayed on top so long.
I don't think she's coming back to Storrs. She's got her own head, and is putting down roots where she is. She's super intelligent and focused and is excited to be where she is.
There's nothing gained for her to return to UConn. If she did come back, she'd have to win at least 11 NCs, just to match her predecessor....
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Post by semper on Sept 22, 2021 10:47:35 GMT -5
 I didn't listen...so maybe tonight. Crammed day. I agree that she's probably not coming back to Storrs. I thought this right away, and I don't think she was the heir apparent. I think it's too soon to tell about that. If Geno lasts for another 10 years (which I hope) there will be lots of great alums in the mix. Smart and dedicated. Let's see what happens with Carla, for example. And if D decides to coach. Or Sue. They both have time to get many years under the belt if they get going. Then there is Pheesa...but I guess she's just too young. Super smart, though. |
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Post by grrrrr on Sept 22, 2021 10:58:53 GMT -5
Forget Tennessee, how many 4 and 5 star recruits from that state could even qualify to go to Vandy? Not sure why she even brought it up, it's apples and oranges. The goal should be to make Vandy the Stanford of the South. Must recruit coast to coast border to border and beyond.
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Post by grrrrr on Sept 22, 2021 11:15:29 GMT -5
I didn't listen...so maybe tonight. Crammed day. I agree that she's probably not coming back to Storrs. I thought this right away, and I don't think she was the heir apparent. I think it's too soon to tell about that. If Geno lasts for another 10 years (which I hope) there will be lots of great alums in the mix. Smart and dedicated. Let's see what happens with Carla, for example. And if D decides to coach. Or Sue. They both have time to get many years under the belt if they get going. Then there is Pheesa...but I guess she's just too young. Super smart, though. We'll never know this but I wonder who Geno and CD think should be next. I mean, if they have ever thought about it at all. I don't want an ex Husky to get the job, not right after anyway, almost certainly will fail to meet the expectations and be crucified. Some of those other guys think Geno should retire now for crying out loud. It is unbearable to think that that would happen to one of our ex players, no matter how big a star they were. Maybe after the successor would be ok. I just think about about UCLA after Wooden and what his successors went through, burned out or run off after a few years, in some cases two years. |
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Post by swash on Sept 22, 2021 11:20:29 GMT -5
I didn't listen...so maybe tonight. Crammed day. I agree that she's probably not coming back to Storrs. I thought this right away, and I don't think she was the heir apparent. I think it's too soon to tell about that. If Geno lasts for another 10 years (which I hope) there will be lots of great alums in the mix. Smart and dedicated. Let's see what happens with Carla, for example. And if D decides to coach. Or Sue. They both have time to get many years under the belt if they get going. Then there is Pheesa...but I guess she's just too young. Super smart, though. - a definite candidate, if she is interested and hasn't been snapped up by say ... Stanford Diana - I highly doubt it, but a distant possibility, I suppose Sue - Nope. I doubt coaching is in her future. Front office is more likely. Media maybe. She has said she doesn't want to coach. Even if she did reverse that, the W would be her likely calling Napheesa - I doubt it. she'll be playing for a long time, barring surprises. Then she'll likely either get into individual training with her husband or some other non-coaching gig. I don't think her personality will lead her to become a head coach |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 22, 2021 11:24:49 GMT -5
Forget Tennessee, how many 4 and 5 star recruits from that state could even qualify to go to Vandy? Pretty much all of them. Academic standards for D-1 athletes are way lower than for non-athletes. Look at Stanford, Notre Dame, Boston College, etc. They all field football teams with players considerably less than geniuses. These schools offer scholarships even before SAT scores and 11 grade report cards are filed. Take it from me (or don't). There's (at least) two standards at so-called elite universities. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 22, 2021 11:28:41 GMT -5
I didn't listen...so maybe tonight. Crammed day. I agree that she's probably not coming back to Storrs. I thought this right away, and I don't think she was the heir apparent. I think it's too soon to tell about that. If Geno lasts for another 10 years (which I hope) there will be lots of great alums in the mix. Smart and dedicated. Let's see what happens with Carla, for example. And if D decides to coach. Or Sue. They both have time to get many years under the belt if they get going. Then there is Pheesa...but I guess she's just too young. Super smart, though. - a definite candidate, if she is interested and hasn't been snapped up by say ... Stanford Diana - I highly doubt it, but a distant possibility, I suppose Sue - Nope. I doubt coaching is in her future. Front office is more likely. Media maybe. She has said she doesn't want to coach. Even if she did reverse that, the W would be her likely calling Napheesa - I doubt it. she'll be playing for a long time, barring surprises. Then she'll likely either get into individual training with her husband or some other non-coaching gig. I don't think her personality will lead her to become a head coach Most important is the so-called "executive function." How well organized, consistent, disciplined is the person? And a strong leader, unafraid to made decisions and live with bad outcomes. Carla is excellent, though in sharp contrast to Geno (wound very tight, at least from my interaction with her). Sue might be, too, but I agree with swash: if anything, she's staying in the pros. Not sure Pheesa is a leader and I don't think Dee has the patience. If it is to be an alum, it may be a sleeper. Someone without significant playing distinction but with the right mental skills. That's often a guard that's 6th or 7th man on the team. Well, here comes the hate mail. But a tremendous pick, with all necessary qualities (except, sob sob, being a UConn alum) would be Elena Delle Donne. |
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Post by swash on Sept 22, 2021 12:57:24 GMT -5
Carla - a definite candidate, if she is interested and hasn't been snapped up by say ... Stanford Diana - I highly doubt it, but a distant possibility, I suppose Sue - Nope. I doubt coaching is in her future. Front office is more likely. Media maybe. She has said she doesn't want to coach. Even if she did reverse that, the W would be her likely calling Napheesa - I doubt it. she'll be playing for a long time, barring surprises. Then she'll likely either get into individual training with her husband or some other non-coaching gig. I don't think her personality will lead her to become a head coach Most important is the so-called "executive function." How well organized, consistent, disciplined is the person? And a strong leader, unafraid to made decisions and live with bad outcomes. Carla is excellent, though in sharp contrast to Geno (wound very tight, at least from my interaction with her). Sue might be, too, but I agree with swash: if anything, she's staying in the pros. Not sure Pheesa is a leader and I don't think Dee has the patience. If it is to be an alum, it may be a sleeper. Someone without significant playing distinction but with the right mental skills. That's often a guard that's 6th or 7th man on the team. Well, here comes the hate mail. But a tremendous pick, with all necessary qualities (except, sob sob, being a UConn alum) would be Elena Delle Donne. Interesting thought. I don't see EDD dedicating the time it takes to be a WCBB HC. She has too many other interests and a spouse, and a sister she still stays close enough to see regularly, and a passion for woodworking, I guess. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 22, 2021 13:44:09 GMT -5
Most important is the so-called "executive function." How well organized, consistent, disciplined is the person? And a strong leader, unafraid to made decisions and live with bad outcomes. Carla is excellent, though in sharp contrast to Geno (wound very tight, at least from my interaction with her). Sue might be, too, but I agree with swash: if anything, she's staying in the pros. Not sure Pheesa is a leader and I don't think Dee has the patience. If it is to be an alum, it may be a sleeper. Someone without significant playing distinction but with the right mental skills. That's often a guard that's 6th or 7th man on the team. Well, here comes the hate mail. But a tremendous pick, with all necessary qualities (except, sob sob, being a UConn alum) would be Elena Delle Donne. Interesting thought. I don't see EDD dedicating the time it takes to be a WCBB HC. She has too many other interests and a spouse, and a sister she still stays close enough to see regularly, and a passion for woodworking, I guess. Ah, but UConn really isn't that far away from her home as she thought it was when she was 18. And it's a very good place to move her sister eventually. Geno has wine, Elena has woodworking. Maybe they can make a wine cellar together.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 14:05:56 GMT -5
The part about UConn is minutes 10-12. I don't think she knocks UConn at all. She's saying that Vandy has to compete with Tenn within the state, while UConn didn't have in-state competition. But it wasn't a knock. And she defends UConn as saying that it got the right, not necessarily the best, players, and that's how UConn has stayed on top so long. I don't think she's coming back to Storrs. She's got her own head, and is putting down roots where she is. She's super intelligent and focused and is excited to be where she is. There's nothing gained for her to return to UConn. If she did come back, she'd have to win at least 11 NCs, just to match her predecessor.... I think, first of all, she's promoting her school; but I didn't see her as slighting UConn! Academically; UConn is a good school, but Vandy is a more highly rated university on every metric I've seen, usually somewhere between 12th and 20th. UConn is really not located in a city center and Vandy is, but different students will prefer one or the other. The SEC is either the best or 2nd best conference for WCBB, depending on any number of factors. Our Big East is 5th or 6th, so a bit behind there as well. Shea also grew up not too far from Vandy and she's coaching closer to home! She also seemed very happy to be able to coach with her longtime friend and husband, being able to pick her own staff and the challenge of creating her own excellent WCBB program! I'm certain she's very grateful for both her playing time and coaching time @ UConn, and she'll strive to put Vandy on the WCBB map as well. This was a great opportunity for her!!! |
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Post by chicagogg on Sept 22, 2021 14:30:41 GMT -5
To quote GRRRR: "I just think about about UCLA after Wooden and what his successors went through, burned out or run off after a few years, in some cases two years."
Right you are. No one wants to be the guy that follows THE GUY. A def no win (not games wins) situation.
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Post by semper on Sept 22, 2021 15:00:32 GMT -5
In a sense, it's not just who replaces Geno, but who replaced CD. The two of them is what has made the program so great.
Well, let's enjoy the ride for now.
Chips will fall where they may.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 15:52:21 GMT -5
In a sense, it's not just who replaces Geno, but who replaced CD. The two of them is what has made the program so great. Well, let's enjoy the ride for now. Chips will fall where they may. You're 1000+% right! The best move Geno ever made; besides marrying his lovely wife, was convincing CD to work with him @ UConn! 36 + years together has provided a stability @ UConn which is rare for any coaching staff anywhere! |
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Post by linkster on Sept 22, 2021 18:41:46 GMT -5
No one ever mentions Mosley. Is it because she was never going to be an AA? Well what was Geno's college basketball resume? Some point to her not staying anywhere for more than 2 years. I think that is a huge asset in recruiting. She has contacts in HS/AAU all over the country and recruiting is half of the success formula.
I have no idea about her motivational skills but she is my pick. At least until Bueckers' NBA career is done.
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Post by swash on Sept 22, 2021 19:59:55 GMT -5
No one ever mentions Mosley. Is it because she was never going to be an AA? Well what was Geno's college basketball resume? Some point to her not staying anywhere for more than 2 years. I think that is a huge asset in recruiting. She has contacts in HS/AAU all over the country and recruiting is half of the success formula. I have no idea about her motivational skills but she is my pick. At least until Bueckers' NBA career is done. I think you're more likely to see someone like Kyla Irwin than Paige. We'll see. |
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Post by grrrrr on Sept 22, 2021 20:27:54 GMT -5
In a sense, it's not just who replaces Geno, but who replaced CD. The two of them is what has made the program so great. Well, let's enjoy the ride for now. Chips will fall where they may. You're 1000+% right! The best move Geno ever made; besides marrying his lovely wife, was convincing CD to work with him @ UConn! 36 + years together has provided a stability @ UConn which is rare for any coaching staff anywhere! What the heck was I thinking? It's not him, it's THEM. Now I really don't want an ex to take the first bite of the apple. |
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Post by semper on Sept 22, 2021 20:56:21 GMT -5
So given it's "them" we need to be hoping for a GREAT combo, and synergy.
But as I say, I'm going to sit back (or forward) and enjoy these next few years. We are so incredibly lucky and it's going to amazingly interesting. Really. There will never be anything like what we have had the joy to witness. Are having...the joy.
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Post by chicagogg on Sept 23, 2021 8:02:55 GMT -5
So given it's "them" we need to be hoping for a GREAT combo, and synergy. But as I say, I'm going to sit back (or forward) and enjoy these next few years. We are so incredibly lucky and it's going to amazingly interesting. Really. There will never be anything like what we have had the joy to witness. Are having...the joy. Semper hits it right on the head, as always. Would like this 10,000 times if possible. |
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Post by semper on Sept 23, 2021 10:31:17 GMT -5
How many days?
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Post by chicagogg on Sept 23, 2021 10:39:17 GMT -5
45 till the exhibition game, 54 to the first real game, but who's counting..... !
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I didn't listen...so maybe tonight. Crammed day.
