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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 10:18:51 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on Aug 9, 2021 10:35:14 GMT -5
I relayed this story in a different thread: some years ago, an extremely well-placed and entirely honest (maybe too honest for his own career aspirations) acquaintance indicated that sports wags the dog at Syracuse.
It's hard for even a well-meaning president to eradicate such a deeply-entrenched mentality. There are so many ways to corrupt--country club memberships, staying at wealthy donors summer villas, etc. They all become complicit and it becomes a CYA culture.
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Post by UConnChapette on Aug 9, 2021 11:57:59 GMT -5
I haven't read the story, incredibly busy at work these days which allows only a drive by to the board. But, I don't think it is so much the missed the signs as simply ignored them until the noise grew too loud to ignore.
We see it time and time again where all the signs are there, and players complain, but nothing is done. What a disservice to the student athletes. But that is nothing new with college athletics.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Aug 9, 2021 12:17:52 GMT -5
Jim Boeheim is an excellent example of a guy who gets away with murder. His pontificating over the mess at Louisville made me want to throw up.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Aug 9, 2021 12:24:03 GMT -5
Damn good question at the end of the article: "SU also should explain why it elevated Hillsman’s assistant, Vonn Read, to interim head coach. As a longtime presence in the program, we presume Read witnessed or heard about the conduct that led Hillsman to resign." |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 12:49:03 GMT -5
Jim Boeheim is an excellent example of a guy who gets away with murder. His pontificating over the mess at Louisville made me want to throw up. When you ( not you, Rocky, but members of the BO heim brigade) have other extremely bad examples of stewardship, deflect & carry on with your own peccadilloes! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 13:12:39 GMT -5
Damn good question at the end of the article: "SU also should explain why it elevated Hillsman’s assistant, Vonn Read, to interim head coach. As a longtime presence in the program, we presume Read witnessed or heard about the conduct that led Hillsman to resign." This was a puzzling choice, if you want to protect your athletes, since he must have been at least aware of Hillsman's nefarious activities there? One sportswriter opined that the AD may have done it to have continuity with their most recent recruits? I don't buy that with their Portal potty chaos; particularly if you want to change the negative culture? imgflip.com/i/5j2j4v |
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Post by bulkey on Aug 9, 2021 13:27:18 GMT -5
Damn good question at the end of the article: "SU also should explain why it elevated Hillsman’s assistant, Vonn Read, to interim head coach. As a longtime presence in the program, we presume Read witnessed or heard about the conduct that led Hillsman to resign." This was a puzzling choice, if you want to protect your athletes, since he must have been at least aware of Hillsman's nefarious activities there? One sportswriter opined that the AD may have done it to have continuity with their most recent recruits? I don't buy that with their Portal potty chaos; particularly if you want to change the negative culture? imgflip.com/i/5j2j4vAt most universities, the president controls the entire university except for the medical school and the department of economics: they are just too powerful for even the president to control. At Syracuse, add athletics to out-of-control departments. (At Harvard, every dept and school is too powerful for the president to control, except for athletics!  ) |
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Post by grrrrr on Aug 9, 2021 14:26:17 GMT -5
This was a puzzling choice, if you want to protect your athletes, since he must have been at least aware of Hillsman's nefarious activities there? One sportswriter opined that the AD may have done it to have continuity with their most recent recruits? I don't buy that with their Portal potty chaos; particularly if you want to change the negative culture? imgflip.com/i/5j2j4vAt most universities, the president controls the entire university except for the medical school and the department of economics: they are just too powerful for even the president to control. At Syracuse, add athletics to out-of-control departments. (At Harvard, every dept and school is too powerful for the president to control, except for athletics! ) Two of their recent recruits have already said adios. So they lose the whole team plus 1/2 the recruiting class. And yeah, what the hell were they thinking hiring that guy? Nuts, just nuts. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 15:33:16 GMT -5
At most universities, the president controls the entire university except for the medical school and the department of economics: they are just too powerful for even the president to control. At Syracuse, add athletics to out-of-control departments. (At Harvard, every dept and school is too powerful for the president to control, except for athletics! ) Two of their recent recruits have already said adios. So they lose the whole team plus 1/2 the recruiting class. And yeah, what the hell were they thinking hiring that guy? Nuts, just nuts. So much for the smooth transition for the recruits theory @ 'CUSE??? |
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Aug 9, 2021 17:27:51 GMT -5
Damn good question at the end of the article: "SU also should explain why it elevated Hillsman’s assistant, Vonn Read, to interim head coach. As a longtime presence in the program, we presume Read witnessed or heard about the conduct that led Hillsman to resign." This was a puzzling choice, if you want to protect your athletes, since he must have been at least aware of Hillsman's nefarious activities there? One sportswriter opined that the AD may have done it to have continuity with their most recent recruits? I don't buy that with their Portal potty chaos; particularly if you want to change the negative culture? imgflip.com/i/5j2j4vHere's the thing - while I think they needed to clean house, Hillsman really was more or less just a bully in the way he treated players. You can say the inappropriate touching, and it was, but I don't think it was anything intended as sexual. Just creepy. And coaches being bullies is sadly not unusual and it is only in recent years that more are being called out for it. So, if temporary, and I agree he doesn't really deserve it, Read can probably shepherd the team for a year. He probably won't be bullying them and in truth, he very well may never have done so. If they keep Read (absent learning something we don't know) then I lose the little respect I still have for Syracuse athletics (and it wasn't much to begin with). |
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Post by semper on Aug 9, 2021 17:43:28 GMT -5
Being a native Syracusan, I know about the incredible power of Boeheim. It once was the case with football, but no longer. Things do ebb and flow. Syracuse had a huge German population...Hesburgh was from that clan. But, in my view, he was a pretty good guy.
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Post by grrrrr on Aug 10, 2021 8:48:19 GMT -5
Creepy is exactly the word. Hillsman IS creepy.
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