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Post by semper on Mar 25, 2021 19:18:03 GMT -5
Do you think it is possible that Paige is a student of the game not only off court, as we all know, but on court too? Do you think that Uconn's "slow starts" may have to do with her determination to figure out the chess game before she makes major moves? Once she has seen the essence of the situation, then she is ready to attack. Or am I way overthinking this kid? Probably. Philosophy and the Good Life.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 25, 2021 19:24:31 GMT -5
Do you think it is possible that Paige is a student of the game not only off court, as we all know, but on court too? Do you think that Uconn's "slow starts" may have to do with her determination to figure out the chess game before she makes major moves? Once she has seen the essence of the situation, then she is ready to attack. Or am I way overthinking this kid? Probably. Philosophy and the Good Life.Boethius?
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Post by semper on Mar 25, 2021 19:29:34 GMT -5
Seriously...do you think she is trying to figure things out a bit, deliberately, before she goes into gear? Then she knows how to attack and has a strategy. Or am I making this up?
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Post by davidinnaples on Mar 25, 2021 19:31:20 GMT -5
Your theory has merit. Paige understands the game is 40 minutes long and you don’t win in the first 5 minutes or in one period. I think she looks to get others scoring, passing, moving...before having to “take over.” I truly thinks she understands she can dominate if need be, but would rather get the whole team running on all cylinders. From my memory, she rarely takes the first shot for UConn if someone else is open. I think she would be happy to score 6 points in a game and have 14 assists if the Huskies win easily. IMO
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Post by l3800 on Mar 25, 2021 19:35:43 GMT -5
methinks you are making this more complicated than it is :0 She is good, really good She is a freshman As good as she is there is going to be a lot of improvement (wow, I can't wait for that!)
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Post by semper on Mar 25, 2021 20:03:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I know 13800. I am often guilty of overthinking situations... But still...A kid is a kid. But she is quite unusual.
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Post by yetanotherwilliams on Mar 25, 2021 20:04:56 GMT -5
Not to minimize Paige's in-game insights, but it seems to me that most nights, the Huskies make a concerted effort to get the ball inside to the low post in the first few possessions to see how the other, usually smaller team, is going to play Olivia. If they're playing Olivia straight up, they'll continue to play (and occasionally force) the ball in to her early. If the opposing center is getting a lot of help, they'll try to work the ball inside out on *that* possession, and then swing Olivia up to the high post, and get the ball to her there, send some cutters through the lane with option A, getting an easy look, and option B, clearing out the key, so that Olivia can drive if the opposing center is guarding her closely, or shoot the short jumper if they're laying off, guarding against the drive.
Barring transition baskets, Olivia usually gets a lot of touches early (and sometimes turnovers result from trying to get the ball to her prematurely, or from her trying to force a shot from a less-than-great position.
I think all the Huskies, but particularly Paige, are vigilant during this feeling out process, learning which defenders are collapsing inside prematurely, which are susceptible to back door plays, which are slow to switch when the Huskies set picks while they're running the high post version of their 'get the ball to Olivia early' strategy, to see which tactics to pursue as the game develops.
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Post by semper on Mar 25, 2021 20:13:43 GMT -5
This is so interesting!!! In the last game thread, Liv seemed to be missing quite a lot. Maybe that has an impact too.
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Post by yetanotherwilliams on Mar 25, 2021 20:19:50 GMT -5
Do you think it is possible that Paige is a student of the game not only off court, as we all know, but on court too? Do you think that Uconn's "slow starts" may have to do with her determination to figure out the chess game before she makes major moves? Once she has seen the essence of the situation, then she is ready to attack. Or am I way overthinking this kid? Probably. Philosophy and the Good Life.Boethius? Boethius had a nice all-around game for a Neo-platonist, but I still think Plotinus and Porphyry (AKA the P-boys to their biggest fans) were better at taking the ball to hoop.
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Post by swash on Mar 25, 2021 20:26:18 GMT -5
Do you think it is possible that Paige is a student of the game not only off court, as we all know, but on court too? Do you think that Uconn's "slow starts" may have to do with her determination to figure out the chess game before she makes major moves? Once she has seen the essence of the situation, then she is ready to attack. Or am I way overthinking this kid? Probably. Philosophy and the Good Life. Not sure about the deep thoughts, but Bueckers regularly takes her first shot near or after the first media timeout. I've interpreted that as getting the others going, but analyzing the game is certainly happening in those minutes.
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Post by semper on Mar 25, 2021 20:46:27 GMT -5
Her interviews can be pretty canny. She's an unusual person; so smart and well spoken and ready to be sure she says the right things. She usually gets just a bunch of cliched questions and she just spouts what would be expected, but sometimes with a twist. There is a lively intelligence there.
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Post by radylady on Mar 25, 2021 21:14:35 GMT -5
Do you think it is possible that Paige is a student of the game not only off court, as we all know, but on court too? Do you think that Uconn's "slow starts" may have to do with her determination to figure out the chess game before she makes major moves? Once she has seen the essence of the situation, then she is ready to attack. Or am I way overthinking this kid? Probably. Philosophy and the Good Life. I was actually thinking this myself after watching the last game. I am sure that CD had some input into this, but it seemed that after a frustrating start (to watch), the game got much easier. Yes I know, fatigue by the opponent factored in, but I also believed that they sorted out the issues they were facing and found the solution that worked. I am sure that Paige may have had some input. Don't underestimate her. She is a smart cookie.
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Post by semper on Mar 25, 2021 21:17:02 GMT -5
She might be "great coach" material later in life.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 25, 2021 21:30:15 GMT -5
Boethius? Boethius had a nice all-around game for a Neo-platonist, but I still think Plotinus and Porphyry (AKA the P-boys to their biggest fans) were better at taking the ball to hoop. I can see that: it's all about the flow, and that's UConn's game: from psyche to nous to to hen. She scores!!!
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Post by semper on Mar 26, 2021 6:36:25 GMT -5
Too clever by half, Bulkey. She can see the shadows on the wall!
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Post by huskyharper on Mar 26, 2021 12:42:56 GMT -5
IMHO, the first five minutes of the game is when the teams are (or should be) getting a feel for the defense, what's open, what's not, etc. No doubt Paige is doing this also, all of the players should be and certainly the coaches are looking for those things as well.
ah, my brilliance is on full display (bwahahahaha).
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Post by semper on Mar 26, 2021 14:27:03 GMT -5
Now I'm worried about the mojo. Remember D's bad game?
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2021 14:32:23 GMT -5
Now I'm worried about the mojo. Remember D's bad game? I certainly do. I was there.
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Post by UConnChapette on Mar 26, 2021 14:33:33 GMT -5
Hey, Phil! Are you in San Antonio now?
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Post by davidinnaples on Mar 26, 2021 16:14:25 GMT -5
Has San Antonio been properly warned..?? 😂
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Post by semper on Mar 26, 2021 16:15:07 GMT -5
Yeah, where is Phil?
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Mar 26, 2021 16:52:39 GMT -5
Not being of the Neoplatonic school of heady babble, I have nothing to contribute except this: sports.yahoo.com/just-how-good-is-paige-bueckers-let-the-stats-tell-the-story-015135313.html"But to really appreciate what Bueckers is doing, it's best to take a look through her Synergy stats. Synergy compiles basketball data to provide advanced analytical feedback for coaches, scouts and executives. It breaks down player performance in very specific game situations like pick-and-roll ball handling in single coverage and non-post-up shots around the basket. It then ranks players in those categories against their competition. And that's where Bueckers' numbers truly pop." In five categories related to spot-up plays, Bueckers ranks in the 100th percentile. That means nobody in college basketball is as statistically good as Bueckers at spot-up shooting, no-dribble jumpers and drives to the left in spot-up situations. In short, Bueckers is the standalone best as a spot-up player. In roughly one-third of the categories analyzed, Bueckers is elite — in the 90th percentile — including most of the categories that break down overall offense. In the areas where she doesn't rank in the 90th percentile, she's largely merely outstanding, ranking in the 80th percentile or better in 60 categories." Very good article. Appeals to me as a Pythagorean.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 26, 2021 17:00:58 GMT -5
Not being of the Neoplatonic school of heady babble, I have nothing to contribute except this: sports.yahoo.com/just-how-good-is-paige-bueckers-let-the-stats-tell-the-story-015135313.html"But to really appreciate what Bueckers is doing, it's best to take a look through her Synergy stats. Synergy compiles basketball data to provide advanced analytical feedback for coaches, scouts and executives. It breaks down player performance in very specific game situations like pick-and-roll ball handling in single coverage and non-post-up shots around the basket. It then ranks players in those categories against their competition. And that's where Bueckers' numbers truly pop." In five categories related to spot-up plays, Bueckers ranks in the 100th percentile. That means nobody in college basketball is as statistically good as Bueckers at spot-up shooting, no-dribble jumpers and drives to the left in spot-up situations. In short, Bueckers is the standalone best as a spot-up player. In roughly one-third of the categories analyzed, Bueckers is elite — in the 90th percentile — including most of the categories that break down overall offense. In the areas where she doesn't rank in the 90th percentile, she's largely merely outstanding, ranking in the 80th percentile or better in 60 categories." Very good article. Appeals to me as a Pythagorean. Great info, Rocky, and that's not just a hill of Pythagorean beans! I think this really underscores why it's not just Eastern hype about Paige. The stats show her incredible efficiency.
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Post by semper on Mar 26, 2021 19:00:07 GMT -5
Wow...roll over Archimedes!
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