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Post by tipin on Mar 22, 2021 19:20:27 GMT -5
3 bad calls at end. Troy put up a great fight. Shame
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Post by phil on Mar 22, 2021 19:23:21 GMT -5
Troy was robbed. A shame to take away such a fine effort on very bad calls.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 22, 2021 20:24:47 GMT -5
I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 20:41:24 GMT -5
Troy was robbed. A shame to take away such a fine effort on very bad calls. Earlier today I felt like the officials were giving Arkansas too many breaks and here's another SEC Team getting 'help' .....  Troy had this game won and then their luck ran out when the officials began making some really bad last minute calls? Even the announcers mentioned 2 of the WRONG calls by the officiating crew!! |
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Post by chicagogg on Mar 23, 2021 8:11:51 GMT -5
New prayer, please DON'T LET THIS CREW REF UCONN GAMES!
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Post by tipin on Mar 23, 2021 8:23:47 GMT -5
Well this crew did make sure the lower seed lost.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 10:24:35 GMT -5
Mechelle Voepel from ESPN addressed the 'calls' in this story which follows! All of the poor calls referenced were during the final 54 seconds and all favored the SEC team Texas A&M?
With 54 seconds left, Troy's Tyasia Moore hit a layup during which she was BLOCKED by the A&M player, but a CHARGE was called? The A&M player was clearly still moving, did not have her feet set and went into the Troy player who made the layup? This took 2 points away from Troy and a potential 3rd point if the free throw was made?
With 30 seconds left the foul on Troy was really a non-call, but the officials needed to give the SEC team another helping hand??
Finally the whole back court violation thing was a tough call and was probably the least worst?
The bottom line is that officiating was atrocious and whistled Troy for 25 fouls to Texas A&M's 13??? With the way A&M plays smack, poke, punch, throttle and forearm smash defense; that's a crazy disparity?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 10:49:26 GMT -5
I just found this on Twitter and it certainly appears to be a back court violation!!!!
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Post by magic on Mar 23, 2021 11:22:43 GMT -5
Finally, Michelle Voepel makes a statement that makes sense. The problem here, is that it was on tv, and everyone saw it. Fans are starting to watch the women's game more closely and are learning more about the women's game and how it is played. The NCAA committe needs to come out of the dark ages :
1) Fix the officiating. Stop making excuses for bad calls, and set up a grading system. Any questionable calls under 2 minutes should be revieawble and changeable. And don't tell me it's too time consuming !
2) Improve transparency --- Just exactly who is on the committe ? Why are decisions made ? There should be one representative from each conference involved.
3) Just what happened to the so called S CURVE that we heard so much about from the like of Debbie Antonelli. Seems to me ESPN had a lot of imput in the seedings to control the TV matchups. If your not ever going to use a true S CURVE, just tell us that and never mention again. UTTER BS !
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Post by magic on Mar 23, 2021 11:26:00 GMT -5
Regarding the play in question. She changes hands with her dribble and then dribbles into backcourt. The Official excuse for the call is laughable. And everyone knows it !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 12:15:38 GMT -5
Regarding the play in question. She changes hands with her dribble and then dribbles into backcourt. The Official excuse for the call is laughable. And everyone knows it ! Exactly; and the Tweet I shared above is from Coach Matt Ward who said the officials missed this call??? The final minute of this game had so many mistakes in the favor of Texas A&M that you just have to wonder how or why? Usually bad calls will even out, but...? |
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Post by tipin on Mar 23, 2021 12:27:46 GMT -5
Regarding the play in question. She changes hands with her dribble and then dribbles into backcourt. The Official excuse for the call is laughable. And everyone knows it ! Exactly; and the Tweet I shared above is from Coach Matt Ward who said the officials missed this call??? The final minute of this game had so many mistakes in the favor of Texas A&M that you just have to wonder how or why? Usually bad calls will even out, but...? When all 3 of the bad calls occur with less than 90 sec left there is no time to even them out. I can’t go so far as to say it was intentional game throwing by the refs but it definitely was bad reffing. |
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Post by magic on Mar 23, 2021 12:52:31 GMT -5
I'll just come right out and say it. The SEC and and almost all of the TV commentators are PRO SEC. Quite frankly IMO the NCAA has been protecting certain teams and certain Conferences. Then there are only certain teams that get called for such things as " moving screens ". I have been watch games every hour since they started. You'd think there would be moving screens called in every game. Uconn was called for 2 or three of them just the other night. I don't recall multiple illegal screens called on any other teams.
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Post by tipin on Mar 24, 2021 20:16:51 GMT -5
Iowa state leads start to finish over Texas A & M till 13.3 sec. Iowa inbounds and Texas A & M Morris takes elbow to chin with 10.2 left. Refs did not upgrade foul. One second added to make it 11.2. Score 75 to 73. Nixon tied it up 75 to 75. More drama to 1 sec left Now OT
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Post by tipin on Mar 24, 2021 20:25:50 GMT -5
With 1 sec left in OT and 82-82 Jordan Nixon up and ins a buzzer beater
Barn Burner
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Post by grrrrr on Mar 25, 2021 8:04:02 GMT -5
Iowa State lost this game, Texas A&M didn't win it.
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Post by UConnChapette on Mar 25, 2021 8:10:31 GMT -5
I did not see the end of the game. Can someone summarize the controversy on the Iowa State v Texas A&M game?
Or did the Iowa State v Texas A&M game get included in the prior Texas A&M controversy thread and I am just confused.
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Post by pinotbear on Mar 25, 2021 9:29:54 GMT -5
I did not see the end of the game. Can someone summarize the controversy on the Iowa State v Texas A&M game? Or did the Iowa State v Texas A&M game get included in the prior Texas A&M controversy thread and I am just confused. I think much of it is overlap, but, there was a lot of uncalled contact at the end of the game - not so much as erroneous calls, as calls not made. Looked like a rugby scrum, once or twice, and the refs just (not atypical) swallowed their whistles. |
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Post by swash on Mar 25, 2021 10:23:03 GMT -5
Iowa State lost this game, Texas A&M didn't win it. Iowa State hit everything early, then cooled off. All in all, I see it as a good showing for their team, not a choke. They were in the game, forced OT, and lost on a buzzer-beater against a top seeded team |
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Post by swash on Mar 25, 2021 10:29:19 GMT -5
I did not see the end of the game. Can someone summarize the controversy on the Iowa State v Texas A&M game? Or did the Iowa State v Texas A&M game get included in the prior Texas A&M controversy thread and I am just confused. I think much of it is overlap, but, there was a lot of uncalled contact at the end of the game - not so much as erroneous calls, as calls not made. Looked like a rugby scrum, once or twice, and the refs just (not atypical) swallowed their whistles. yes. This one wasn't a robbery - though I was rooting for the opposite result. This was balanced "letting them play" for both sides. It is just that A&M is more attuned to (maybe even requires) playing in a rough and tumble fashion. IA-ST has more finesse, and were clearly looking for some calls late that just didn't happen. Shame on Coach Fennelly for not setting them straight to stop trying that tactic |
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Post by tipin on Mar 25, 2021 18:54:09 GMT -5
I did not see the end of the game. Can someone summarize the controversy on the Iowa State v Texas A&M game? Or did the Iowa State v Texas A&M game get included in the prior Texas A&M controversy thread and I am just confused. I included the last 13 seconds of the Iowa state game into this thread. Apologies if that was not clear. Also that post and the OT post are a game summary from the last 13 seconds through OT |
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Post by phil on Mar 25, 2021 20:30:12 GMT -5
I am disappointed that Iowa State didn't get the win, mainly because I picked them for the upset. I usually like to emphasize the positive over the negative, Buckeye wife and I both watched the game and both reached the exact same conclusion. Iowa State's half-court offense is atrocious. Maybe that deserves an asterisk, but even the exception is telling. it's my belief that the coach is highly respected in coaching ranks, so I'm astounded to reach the conclusion, but I saw play after play that I would not expected see in a high school game much less a college game in the postseason tournament. There was literally one play where the ball handler just fell down. I didn't see any indication that it was a hard cut gone bad, just dribbling along and then Bam on the floor. One play is a weird happenstance, but there were many such plays. The asterisk is because partway through, they did figure something out. After half a dozen or a dozen attempts to have someone cut through the center of the court and pull up for a jumper which failed again and again and again, they tried something different. Someone did a cut and someone from the top of the fed fed them for a nifty layup. it was a well coached well-designed play. I think they did it three consecutive times. The third time had a little variation but it was essentially the same play. my wife and I both reached the same conclusion – they finally found a half-court offensive play that worked, so I say keep trying it until they figure out how to stop it. I never saw them try it again. I don't get it. The one play other than jacking up threes from the outside, that worked, and they decided to try things that didn't work. I felt that neither team deserved the win.
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Mar 25, 2021 22:37:19 GMT -5
I am disappointed that Iowa State didn't get the win, mainly because I picked them for the upset. I usually like to emphasize the positive over the negative, Buckeye wife and I both watched the game and both reached the exact same conclusion. Iowa State's half-court offense is atrocious. Maybe that deserves an asterisk, but even the exception is telling. it's my belief that the coach is highly respected in coaching ranks, so I'm astounded to reach the conclusion, but I saw play after play that I would not expected see in a high school game much less a college game in the postseason tournament. There was literally one play where the ball handler just fell down. I didn't see any indication that it was a hard cut gone bad, just dribbling along and then Bam on the floor. One play is a weird happenstance, but there were many such plays. The asterisk is because partway through, they did figure something out. After half a dozen or a dozen attempts to have someone cut through the center of the court and pull up for a jumper which failed again and again and again, they tried something different. Someone did a cut and someone from the top of the fed fed them for a nifty layup. it was a well coached well-designed play. I think they did it three consecutive times. The third time had a little variation but it was essentially the same play. my wife and I both reached the same conclusion – they finally found a half-court offensive play that worked, so I say keep trying it until they figure out how to stop it. I never saw them try it again. I don't get it. The one play other than jacking up threes from the outside, that worked, and they decided to try things that didn't work. I felt that neither team deserved the win. Iowa State lives by the 3 and dies by the 3. Fennelly isn't my cup of tea, but he recruits to that idea, makes some adjustments to account for any odd other skills his players have, and does quite well. As to the A&M / Iowa State game, there was one call late in the game by Melissa Barlow that was total nonsense. That said, she has a long history of making total nonsense calls. But I am prejudiced I admit. |
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