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Post by justinesguy on Mar 31, 2024 6:23:14 GMT -5
This was the worst I saw us play in awhile. We were up 20 and I was like how are we up so much this game is so awfully played.
Lo and behold Duke makes a huge run and we flat out loose if there’s another 5 game minutes. How bad both teams were was scary.
It was an awful watch, esp after watching the men go on a 30-0 run and play exciting basketball.
One more point I wish the girls were officiated like the men. You watch the men and nothing a foul, Edwards grazes someone and it’s foul. It ruins the women’s game. I’m watching the game and just assuming a foul or stupid moving screen call. Let the girls play!!
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Post by larrylegend on Mar 31, 2024 7:20:41 GMT -5
IMHO it is a major achievement for them to get this far. Bueckers looks exhausted, she is carrying the team on her back and the load must be tremendous. Hope I am wrong
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Post by tipin on Mar 31, 2024 7:55:40 GMT -5
Five key things in my view
1. Duke controlled the pace 2. Duke played great D 3. 1 & 2 contributed to UConn’s “harried” play 4. Our young women looked exhausted 5. We won. Next!
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Post by pinotbear on Mar 31, 2024 7:57:10 GMT -5
I'm gonna be a bit snotty, and remind folks, there's another team on the floor - and, they're doing their damnedest to prevent UConn from doing what UConn wants to do.
Duke is a very good defensive team - that's how they got into the tourney, and made it to the Sweet Sixteen. UConn doesn't get to do what it wants, unimpeded and uninhibited. They're gonna make mistakes - pros make mistakes, much less college kids. And, points alone don't establish the worth of an individual player, nor a team.
It's a major achievement for any team to be among the final 8 standing, much less one that has had to deal with so many injuries. Enjoy it, savor it, appreciate it: don't nit-pick.
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Post by magic on Mar 31, 2024 9:17:15 GMT -5
Probably one of the worst BB games I have ever watched. If it wasn't Uconn I would have turned it off way before halftime. Camera work at times was awful. I am sick and tired of seeing players arms held as they are trying to cut . That said, Aaliyah has not been right since her injury. Paige is gassed. KK gave what she has which is penetration . It was needed last night. Where was Ashlynn ? Is anyone else shocked to see Uconn posted as a 3.5 point favorite ? I am !
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Post by pinotbear on Mar 31, 2024 9:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by grrrrr on Mar 31, 2024 9:41:01 GMT -5
Gravy is mighty tasty, what ever happens tomorrow is for tomorrow. I don't think Ash disappeared, I think Duke disappeared her. They made it a focal point not to let her be the 3rd scoring option. Which opened it up some for KK, she doesn't need much room. If AE hadn't got in foul trouble I think the whole starting five would have played 40 minutes, the Iron Five indeed.
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Post by doggydaddy on Mar 31, 2024 9:51:08 GMT -5
Probably one of the worst BB games I have ever watched. If it wasn't Uconn I would have turned it off way before halftime. Camera work at times was awful. I am sick and tired of seeing players arms held as they are trying to cut . That said, Aaliyah has not been right since her injury. Paige is gassed. KK gave what she has which is penetration . It was needed last night. Where was Ashlynn ? Is anyone else shocked to see Uconn posted as a 3.5 point favorite ? I am ! I'll agree. A tough game to watch. Good defense and poor offense will do that. However, UConn was up 14 points with 4 minutes remaining in the third quarter when Edwards got her fourth foul and Geno took her out of the game. By the time she came back in it Duke was closing and UConn was out of sync. A different game without the foul trouble for Aaliyah. I thought that illegal screen call was weak. Edwards was still 6-7 from the field. She still had 12 points, 7 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks. She's fine. Somehow Paige still had 24 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. Her two missed free throws certainly showed some fatigue as did a couple of jumpers she usually hits. She will fight through it against USC. Well, I have them at a 5 point favorite so I'm not surprised. USC hasn't faced a defense as good as UConn's.
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Post by mdoggie on Mar 31, 2024 9:51:34 GMT -5
I coached for years and would always tell my team not to put themselves in A position for the refs to decide the game. I normally dont complain about officiating but durning the Duke attempted comeback, the refs were letting them foul and swallowing their whistles. Ridiculous!!
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Post by pinotbear on Mar 31, 2024 10:11:57 GMT -5
I coached for years and would always tell my team not to put themselves in A position for the refs to decide the game. I normally dont complain about officiating but durning the Duke attempted comeback, the refs were letting them foul and swallowing their whistles. Ridiculous!! unfortunately, this is not a new phenomena: officials don't "want to decide the game", especially in a big game, especially on national TV. We can all remember instances where a ref made a call late - the Baylor-Vol game years ago is still being mentioned, as in the Washington Post article yesterday. If the official makes the call, they're damned, possibly for days on end, on a national level. If they don't, the losing team's fans will carp, but, it'll all go away pretty quickly, what with the next game 48 hours later. Further, an odd aspect is, coaches will often complain about a call that is made more than they will about one that wasn't. I mentioned in the "Sweet Sixteen" thread that I thought this may have cost UCLA the game against LSU: during the end of the game, UCLA's offense was one-dimensional, driving the lane repeatedly, and getting snuffed. As you mention, the refs in that game let LSU foul and swallowed their whistles. The officials, I think, would've called a touch foul on a 3-point attempt, they nearly always do, but, they weren't gonna call bodily assault if you were driving the hoop in the lane.
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Post by magic on Mar 31, 2024 10:30:05 GMT -5
Gravy is mighty tasty, what ever happens tomorrow is for tomorrow. I don't think Ash disappeared, I think Duke disappeared her. They made it a focal point not to let her be the 3rd scoring option. Which opened it up some for KK, she doesn't need much room. If AE hadn't got in foul trouble I think the whole starting five would have played 40 minutes, the Iron Five indeed. My problem is , Uconn runs no plays for players. Everything last night ws just individual moves . As soon as you start screening to get someone open there is a moving screen foul. So, then it looks like the defense is amazing. I am not blaming Uconn. This is a major problem in the wcbb game. The game is now designed to let defense do whatever it wants with no regard to protect the offensive function of the game. Yes, some people would argue that the men's game was exactly the same. The problem is the men's players are all bigger and stronger and can withstand the physicality and still score eventully despite of it.
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Post by doggydaddy on Mar 31, 2024 10:37:27 GMT -5
Gravy is mighty tasty, what ever happens tomorrow is for tomorrow. I don't think Ash disappeared, I think Duke disappeared her. They made it a focal point not to let her be the 3rd scoring option. Which opened it up some for KK, she doesn't need much room. If AE hadn't got in foul trouble I think the whole starting five would have played 40 minutes, the Iron Five indeed. My problem is , Uconn runs no plays for players. Everything last night ws just individual moves . As soon as you start screening to get someone open there is a moving screen foul. So, then it looks like the defense is amazing. I am not blaming Uconn. This is a major problem in the wcbb game. The game is now designed to let defense do whatever it wants with no regard to protect the offensive function of the game. Yes, some people would argue that the men's game was exactly the same. The problem is the men's players are all bigger and stronger and can withstand the physicality and still score eventully despite of it. Gotta agree here. There were several non-calls. Shade drove the baseline and tried a layup on the other side of the basket. She was fouled twice on that play. She was bodied first and the fouls on the shot attempt. And KK was fouled on a drive late in the game that turned into a basket on the other end for Duke to close to 5. all was hit hard and went down. Very annoying.
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Post by magic on Mar 31, 2024 10:59:17 GMT -5
Probably one of the worst BB games I have ever watched. If it wasn't Uconn I would have turned it off way before halftime. Camera work at times was awful. I am sick and tired of seeing players arms held as they are trying to cut . That said, Aaliyah has not been right since her injury. Paige is gassed. KK gave what she has which is penetration . It was needed last night. Where was Ashlynn ? Is anyone else shocked to see Uconn posted as a 3.5 point favorite ? I am ! I'll agree. A tough game to watch. Good defense and poor offense will do that. However, UConn was up 14 points with 4 minutes remaining in the third quarter when Edwards got her fourth foul and Geno took her out of the game. By the time she came back in it Duke was closing and UConn was out of sync. A different game without the foul trouble for Aaliyah. I thought that illegal screen call was weak. Edwards was still 6-7 from the field. She still had 12 points, 7 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks. She's fine. Somehow Paige still had 24 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. Her two missed free throws certainly showed some fatigue as did a couple of jumpers she usually hits. She will fight through it against USC. Well, I have them at a 5 point favorite so I'm not surprised. USC hasn't faced a defense as good as UConn's. I thought the illegal screen was fair.. Those are the kinds of fouls they are calling in wcbb, instead of calling fouls on holding cutters in the lane or protecting offensive players from getting banged when taking shots. Lets face it the more defenses are allowed to wreck physical havock the game becomes a sludge but more even match. It equalizes talent or lack of it. However you simply cannot stick your butt way out into a defender coming around a screen as Aaliyah did last night. Going to be called every time.
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Post by semper on Mar 31, 2024 12:29:44 GMT -5
The zebras are the very worst thing about WCBB right now. It's a major problem. I wish some great reporter would do a story about this and show these clowns up for what they are. Footage welcomed. The ideas would be so easy for a good reporter to develop
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Mar 31, 2024 13:25:03 GMT -5
It's midday 3/31 and I still haven't seen the game. Food poisoning I think. Gotta go go.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 31, 2024 13:31:47 GMT -5
It's midday 3/31 and I still haven't seen the game. Food poisoning I think. Gotta go go. Sorry, Rocky. Hope you're feeling better soon. Avoid oysters in Montana.....
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Post by yetanotherwilliams on Mar 31, 2024 15:29:52 GMT -5
Gravy is mighty tasty, what ever happens tomorrow is for tomorrow. I don't think Ash disappeared, I think Duke disappeared her. They made it a focal point not to let her be the 3rd scoring option. Which opened it up some for KK, she doesn't need much room. If AE hadn't got in foul trouble I think the whole starting five would have played 40 minutes, the Iron Five indeed. My problem is , Uconn runs no plays for players. Everything last night ws just individual moves . I can't agree with that. A lot of their losses in recent years *were* the result of their offense going stagnant, but last night Ashlynn and KK and Paige seemed to put a lot of mileage on their tires. And, they had a decent ratio of assists to baskets (16 assists on 22 made field goals, IIRC). They had good movement, for the most part, I thought, but Duke did a fine job staying with the cutters. They missed some shots they should have made -- Paige missed nine shots from the floor and also three foul shots -- a combination she may never have had before. Paige forced a couple of shots, and KK, as is her custom, got a little out of control on two or three drives to the basket, but on the whole I think the offense performed pretty well -- the shots just didn't go in -- Nika and Ashlynn were a combined one for ten from the floor, and KK was five of fifteen. This from three players who hovered around 50% from the field most of the season.
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Post by UConnChapette on Mar 31, 2024 15:37:00 GMT -5
My problem is , Uconn runs no plays for players. Everything last night ws just individual moves . I can't agree with that. A lot of their losses in recent years *were* the result of their offense going stagnant, but last night Ashlynn and KK and Paige seemed to put a lot of mileage on their tires. And, they had a decent ratio of assists to baskets (16 assists on 22 made field goals, IIRC). They had good movement, for the most part, I thought, but Duke did a fine job staying with the cutters. They missed some shots they should have made -- Paige missed nine shots from the floor and also three foul shots -- a combination she may never have had before. Paige forced a couple of shots, and KK, as is her custom, got a little out of control on two or three drives to the basket, but on the whole I think the offense performed pretty well -- the shots just didn't go in -- Nika and Ashlynn were a combined one for ten from the floor, and KK was five of fifteen. This from three players who hovered around 50% from the field most of the season.Geno also expressed frustration in the post-game that he called a play for Aaliyah and for some reason KK said, "nay, I'm not going to do that" and did something else. So there are plays designed for players, but the players need to execute what was diagrammed and not go rogue. No disrespect to KK, she made some good things happen. But Geno needs to have trust that the players will follow his lead and not go and do individual moves.
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Post by magic on Apr 1, 2024 12:31:36 GMT -5
Geno also expressed frustration in the post-game that he called a play for Aaliyah and for some reason KK said, "nay, I'm not going to do that" and did something else. So there are plays designed for players, but the players need to execute what was diagrammed and not go rogue. No disrespect to KK, she made some good things happen. But Geno needs to have trust that the players will follow his lead and not go and do individual moves. I wasn't blaming Geno. I just remarked about what happened.
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Post by UConnChapette on Apr 1, 2024 17:25:17 GMT -5
Geno also expressed frustration in the post-game that he called a play for Aaliyah and for some reason KK said, "nay, I'm not going to do that" and did something else. So there are plays designed for players, but the players need to execute what was diagrammed and not go rogue. No disrespect to KK, she made some good things happen. But Geno needs to have trust that the players will follow his lead and not go and do individual moves. I wasn't blaming Geno. I just remarked about what happened. You said: My problem is , Uconn runs no plays for players. Everything last night ws just individual moves . By UConn, that would mean Geno. So, yes, you are blaming Geno, incorrectly.
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Post by linkster on Apr 1, 2024 18:00:13 GMT -5
UConn has had problems with good defensive teams that took away passing lanes and forced UConn players to make plays off the dribble. Bueckers is UConn's cure for that.
I am happy with the season win or lose tonight. I am hoping that the S16 game was their "bad" game and that Duke just didn't take advantage. This is USC, not SCar. Watkins played 39 minutes in the S16 and she is a freshman. USC's bench played 26 min and got 4 pts. Their grad transfers never played in an E8 game, never mind a FF. The 1st year players came up empty for 1 game. Not a surprise and they survived.
Bueckers didn't look tired to me, she looked ill. In fact the whole team got lethargic way too early. They looked energetic in the BET, playing 3 in 3 days. So maybe it was another food poisoning episode? Or jet lag?
The only places USC is ahead of UConn is the AP and the NCAA seedings.
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