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Post by johnnysc on Feb 26, 2015 7:19:31 GMT -5
Loyd is a great guard. Stewart is a great everything.
If it was for mvp then Loyd might have a case but the award is player of the year.....and that's Stewie.
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Post by semper on Feb 26, 2015 8:12:27 GMT -5
I know but ESPN is clearly rooting for Loyd. Have you been watching their campaign?
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Post by samanthabrown3 on Feb 26, 2015 12:37:12 GMT -5
Another reason Stewart should win. Less of a chance of misspelling the name on the trophy. Unless someone thinks she's Brianna Stuart.  |
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Post by milfordhusky on Feb 26, 2015 22:23:35 GMT -5
Jewell was fabulous early in the season. Stewie had some weak games early on. Since February 1, I think Stewie has been the better player. I hope that folks consider the full season and not just the first half.
Regarding Muffet repeatedly calling Jewell the best player, I understand supporting her player. However, she said the same thing about Kayla last year and was a sourpuss when Stewie won. I think Muffet's statements are a bit overdone, unseemly, and whiny.
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Post by Icebear on Feb 27, 2015 5:53:52 GMT -5
Jewell will win some of the POY honors. I have no doubt of this. If nothing else the balance of the UCONN attack works against Stewie. Most voters don't look beyond the superficial.
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Post by semper on Feb 27, 2015 10:58:45 GMT -5
Ice, you said it all. Stewie will lose because of Beautiful Basketball. But, know what?, this will just make her play harder, so it could work in her ultimate favor. She doesn't always do well with personal accolades, it seems to me. She is a humble person at heart, I think.
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Post by dishnswish on Feb 27, 2015 13:22:28 GMT -5
I have to admit, I think Loyd is the NPOY. There is a distinct difference between the best college player in a year, and the number one draft pick in a pro draft.
Look at some of the Heisman Trophy winners of the past, outstanding college QBs that were not pro prospects in comparison.
Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. You take Loyd off ND and you may not have a top ten team at all.
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Post by pap49cba on Feb 27, 2015 14:56:20 GMT -5
Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. Wasn't that the case last year as well? The team went undefeated. |
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Post by dishnswish on Feb 27, 2015 15:02:12 GMT -5
Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. Wasn't that the case last year as well? The team went undefeated. Yes, but there was no other player that was the sole driving force of a final four team either. For example, ND had McBride and Loyd, plus Achonwa, so who was their best player? So it was easier to say Stewie was the best player on the best team. |
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Post by phil on Feb 27, 2015 15:25:14 GMT -5
I have to admit, I think Loyd is the NPOY. There is a distinct difference between the best college player in a year, and the number one draft pick in a pro draft. Look at some of the Heisman Trophy winners of the past, outstanding college QBs that were not pro prospects in comparison. Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. You take Loyd off ND and you may not have a top ten team at all. That sounds like an argument for an MVP which is similar to, but not quite the same as POY |
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Post by UConnChapette on Feb 27, 2015 16:54:14 GMT -5
Ask Stewie which she would rather have - a NPOY award or another National Championship? I'm pretty sure which one she would pick.
I have not seen enough of JL (going that way so I don't spell it incorreclty). I suspect it will be a split vote across the various awards and a close one in each. But I do know that Geno will applaud who ever it is.
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Post by msf22b on Feb 27, 2015 17:53:24 GMT -5
What a joke!! No one would pick Jewell over Breanna in a draft. Including Rebecca! And besides our little national treasure at ND can't even spell Jewel Lloyd correctly.... What's up with that? Geez, now I find myself questioning her long division skills. AF Sorry to correct you Atticus, but my impression is that it's Loyd….one L |
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Post by msf22b on Feb 27, 2015 18:00:46 GMT -5
Stewie is the best player in WCBB and is unstoppable. Lloyd is not. I agree that Stewie is unstoppable and would surely be drafted over Loyd But Stewie also has wonderful, brilliant, athletic players to team up with And Loyd is essentially a one man band. That's got to count for a lot. She's an absolute treasure of a guard who will have a long and fruitful career in the pros. Surely worthy for consideration this season as MVP But sure…we'll control her in the finsl-4 if it comes to that and overwhelm the rest of their pretty slow and clumsy team. |
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Post by Pinsky on Feb 27, 2015 18:35:35 GMT -5
Loyd is second rate next to Stewie. Ridiculous reality. B Turner is better than she is
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Post by meyers7 on Feb 27, 2015 18:45:06 GMT -5
Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. You take Loyd off ND and you may not have a top ten team at all. I don't believe this is an MVP award though, I believe it is Player of the Year award. Best player of the year, not the most valuable (to a team). Oops, looks like Phil already beat me to it. |
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Post by Icebear on Feb 27, 2015 19:22:57 GMT -5
Jewell (two Ls) Loyd (one L)
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Post by msf22b on Feb 27, 2015 19:46:18 GMT -5
Loyd is second rate next to Stewie. Ridiculous reality. B Turner is better than she is Sorry Pinsky, I think your remark is insupportable. |
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Post by phil on Feb 27, 2015 20:48:52 GMT -5
Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. You take Loyd off ND and you may not have a top ten team at all. I don't believe this is an MVP award though, I believe it is Player of the Year award. Best player of the year, not the most valuable (to a team). Oops, looks like Phil already beat me to it. Heh, glad to see we are on the same page. |
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Post by semper on Feb 27, 2015 20:50:18 GMT -5
So why is ESPN promoting Loyd?
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Post by atticusfinch on Feb 27, 2015 21:06:08 GMT -5
And besides our little national treasure at ND can't even spell Jewel Lloyd correctly.... What's up with that? Geez, now I find myself questioning her long division skills. AF Sorry to correct you Atticus, but my impression is that it's Loyd….one L I know... it was a bit of a joke... I moved the second 'l' in Jewell to the second 'l' in L'l'oyd... Too subtle? AF |
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Post by msf22b on Feb 27, 2015 21:16:50 GMT -5
Sorry to correct you Atticus, but my impression is that it's Loyd….one L I know... it was a bit of a joke... I moved the second 'l' in Jewell to the second 'l' in L'l'oyd... Too subtle? AF Surely for me. I'm really square when it comes to subtle jokes Never get a thing. That's very clever though. |
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Post by linkster on Feb 28, 2015 0:10:58 GMT -5
I have to admit, I think Loyd is the NPOY. There is a distinct difference between the best college player in a year, and the number one draft pick in a pro draft. Look at some of the Heisman Trophy winners of the past, outstanding college QBs that were not pro prospects in comparison. Stewie is an All-American and a dominant player, but if you took Stewie off UConn, they'd still be a number one team. You take Loyd off ND and you may not have a top ten team at all.That's more a function of the talent on the 2 teams and would be a factor only if this was an MVP award. But I have no problem if Loyd won it. She is totally deserving. The award that is most important is the one that is handed out after the NC game. It is earned by playing the game and winning. The rest are based on subjective opinion. |
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Post by Icebear on Feb 28, 2015 5:16:01 GMT -5
Sorry to correct you Atticus, but my impression is that it's Loyd….one L I know... it was a bit of a joke... I moved the second 'l' in Jewell to the second 'l' in L'l'oyd... Too subtle? AF Yeah, because it is the mistake that is made 80% of the time. |
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Post by Pinsky on Feb 28, 2015 9:07:54 GMT -5
MSf;). Jewell is only giving up about 6 inches to Stewie plus another 2 or 3 inches in arm length. It is so easy to underestimate that reach. Those arms come out of nowhere. Those million shot blocks and alterations would be staggering numbers if she played whole games. Even Jewell's great leg speed doesn't make up for serpent strike reach. Jewell might have been a legit contender if she learned the three ball like MoJeff and KML. Chong and Nurse kill with it too. I'm not saying she can learn it but it would have changed her value. As for a pro draft where virtually everyone knows Stewie would go ahead of her, well that IS the test. It's not even close. Some pro teams might take Turner ahead of her, too. That would be close. It reminds me of the people who underestimated Maya.
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Post by phil on Feb 28, 2015 9:39:53 GMT -5
Sorry to correct you Atticus, but my impression is that it's Loyd….one L I know... it was a bit of a joke... I moved the second 'l' in Jewell to the second 'l' in L'l'oyd... Too subtle? AF The law of the conservation of "l". |
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