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Post by semper on Jun 22, 2024 9:32:03 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on Jun 22, 2024 11:12:23 GMT -5
This guy is really cooking. Recently, he’s given us insight as well as material.
Really like his observations about Sarah’s hands on defense. That’s a new thought for me. And love the idea of a pick-and-roll with Paige.
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Post by semper on Jun 22, 2024 11:13:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I like the footage along with the points.
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Post by swash on Jun 22, 2024 11:24:32 GMT -5
This guy is really cooking. Recently, he’s given us insight as well as material. Really like his observations about Sarah’s hands on defense. That’s a new thought for me. And love the idea of a pick-and-roll with Paige. Barely even mentions passing ability and court vision ... perhaps her best assets.
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Post by swash on Jun 22, 2024 11:30:41 GMT -5
Also, Brazil was a decent opponent. At least 4 to 6 D1-level players. They'd be competitive with the lower and maybe middle BE teams.
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Post by ucchamp on Jun 22, 2024 16:07:43 GMT -5
I have much different perpctive on Sarah than the video.
Sarah,
1--- For all the positives he says about then why is he even mentioning if she might come off the bench? If he is that positive on her then why mention at all her coming off the bench? You mean keeping arguably our best rebounder on the bench would be a good idea? Arguably our best passing-big and probably our best outside- shooting-big and arguably our best ball-handling big on the bench to start after all the things he mentions building her up; that would be smart to not start her once the tough games begin?
2-- He mentions pick-and-rolls between her and Paige as excitement. Sure to a degree. And I understand pick-and-rolls are a component of the Offense. But for me, what is more exciting, much more, is how the players form into a 5-player Offense in which the team looks unstoppable. A two-player offense for me is like a gimmick. Running an offense in which 5 players are an unstoppable unit is much more exciting for me.
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Post by bulkey on Jun 22, 2024 23:07:28 GMT -5
I don’t think he’s suggesting a pick-and-roll offense like Malone and Stockton. Rather, there are always occasional plays drawn up, for example, the Spain pick-and-roll that comes right out of Chin Series, which is the major type of motion UConn plays.
I thought that was a really cool observation: two players who are great outside shots and are strong to the hoop who will often overmatch their opponents putting tremendous pressure on the defense. That will almost certainly draw weak or strong side help on the roll, leaving Jana or Ice open.
I think you are all too hard on this guy. He’s making a couple of points in favor of Sarah. For me, I never appreciated her quick hands on defense. I have noticed that she is sometimes slow-footed on defense, and felt this would improve with intense practice. But if her hands are that quick—and they seem to be—that is important compensation.
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Post by ucchamp on Jun 22, 2024 23:51:08 GMT -5
I don’t think he’s suggesting a pick-and-roll offense like Malone and Stockton. Rather, there are always occasional plays drawn up, for example, the Spain pick-and-roll that comes right out of Chin Series, which is the major type of motion UConn plays. I thought that was a really cool observation: two players who are great outside shots and are strong to the hoop who will often overmatch their opponents putting tremendous pressure on the defense. That will almost certainly draw weak or strong side help on the roll, leaving Jana or Ice open. I think you are all too hard on this guy. He’s making a couple of points in favor of Sarah. For me, I never appreciated her quick hands on defense. I have noticed that she is sometimes slow-footed on defense, and felt this would improve with intense practice. But if her hands are that quick—and they seem to be—that is important compensation. I didn't mean to be hard on him. Just made 2 points. And as far as pick-and-roll – my point was he pointed it out as if it was "the coolest." If that is your favorite play or looking forward to seeing - how can I argue what you or he loves to see? Good for you if you want to see it as one of your top things. And I'm grateful he brought up the subject about Sarah regardless. Nor was I ssugesting that he was implying UCONN is going ot run a predominant pick-and-roll Offense. Others can be excited about other things too such as backdoor cuts from beautiful passes that Sarah will hit Paige for as another example. If you are looking forward to that—great! I was just offering what I want to see. The other point was asking a question - why would he feel a need to mention Sarah not starting after all the positive comments? I found it odd that's all. I was sort of asking a basketball question which anyone can reply to -- in part based of his own assessment of Sarah.
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Post by swash on Jun 23, 2024 4:53:49 GMT -5
I don’t think he’s suggesting a pick-and-roll offense like Malone and Stockton. Rather, there are always occasional plays drawn up, for example, the Spain pick-and-roll that comes right out of Chin Series, which is the major type of motion UConn plays. I thought that was a really cool observation: two players who are great outside shots and are strong to the hoop who will often overmatch their opponents putting tremendous pressure on the defense. That will almost certainly draw weak or strong side help on the roll, leaving Jana or Ice open. I think you are all too hard on this guy. He’s making a couple of points in favor of Sarah. For me, I never appreciated her quick hands on defense. I have noticed that she is sometimes slow-footed on defense, and felt this would improve with intense practice. But if her hands are that quick—and they seem to be—that is important compensation. I didn't mean to be hard on him. Just made 2 points. And as far as pick-and-roll – my point was he pointed it out as if it was "the coolest." If that is your favorite play or looking forward to seeing - how can I argue what you or he loves to see? Good for you if you want to see it as one of your top things. And I'm grateful he brought up the subject about Sarah regardless. Nor was I ssugesting that he was implying UCONN is going ot run a predominant pick-and-roll Offense. Others can be excited about other things too such as backdoor cuts from beautiful passes that Sarah will hit Paige for as another example. If you are looking forward to that—great! I was just offering what I want to see. The other point was asking a question - why would he feel a need to mention Sarah not starting after all the positive comments? I found it odd that's all. I was sort of asking a basketball question which anyone can reply to -- in part based of his own assessment of Sarah. Good points from both of you. The clip says pick and roll, but that pair could be deadly on any pick action. Either could go to the rim. Either can step back for an open three. Both are able to make a wise decision about what the defense is doing... and giving up. As if that's not enough to shake.up the scout coaches, they both are great at dropping a dime to another scorer who wasn't part of the original pick action.
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Post by grrrrr on Jun 23, 2024 7:49:04 GMT -5
Sarah glaring strengths are evident playing with virtual strangers her age or younger. Wait till we see her with the other Huskies after a month of Fall practice.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jun 23, 2024 8:43:41 GMT -5
Happy she's ours. The video was tied in well.
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Post by doggydaddy on Jun 23, 2024 9:12:16 GMT -5
Why is Geno mentioning she might, MIGHT, come off the bench?
Well, for one, she is a freshman and with a deep roster he won’t be forced to start her like he had to with KK and Shade.
Didn’t Maya Moore come off the bench her freshman season?
I’m sure she will get starter minutes. Or maybe she WILL start.
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Post by semper on Jun 23, 2024 9:49:43 GMT -5
She will be a contender, and that's what is great. As I often say, starts farts. It don matter with this great group. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a season!!!!
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Post by linkster on Jun 23, 2024 14:53:51 GMT -5
I have much different perpctive on Sarah than the video. Sarah, 1--- For all the positives he says about then why is he even mentioning if she might come off the bench? If he is that positive on her then why mention at all her coming off the bench? You mean keeping arguably our best rebounder on the bench would be a good idea? Arguably our best passing-big and probably our best outside- shooting-big and arguably our best ball-handling big on the bench to start after all the things he mentions building her up; that would be smart to not start her once the tough games begin? 2-- He mentions pick-and-rolls between her and Paige as excitement. Sure to a degree. And I understand pick-and-rolls are a component of the Offense. But for me, what is more exciting, much more, is how the players form into a 5-player Offense in which the team looks unstoppable. A two-player offense for me is like a gimmick. Running an offense in which 5 players are an unstoppable unit is much more exciting for me. The fact that he isn't putting her in the starting lineup is evidence of the immense level of talent on the team and the fact that it's June. My feeling is that she will start, based on her versatility, size, strength, three level scoring, passing, quick feet and high IQ. She also appears committed to a team concept. Her skill set suggests a player who makes those around her more effective. The only question is her lack of experience. All she needs to display is consistency. Geno doesn't have a lot of "UConn-experienced" upper classmen that are healthy right now. Fudd, Griffin and Ducharme may not be able to fully practice when practice starts. That is going to give several if not all of the new players an opportunity to start the first game. Geno isn't going to name a player a starter until they are 100% and have practiced to the coaches' expectations.
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Post by ucchamp on Jun 23, 2024 16:01:35 GMT -5
During this time of year there is little to talk about. I don’t mean to rile anyone up – just taking a break from some other things and figure it would be fun to talk about hoop in which some of us may disagree. Mods if you feel this going to cause unwanted antagonism let me know I will stop. This is all in fun – no searing at anyone for different views.
In regard to who starts it can matter. IMO Geno outcoached Mulkey in 2002-21 not because of his moves but because Mulkey didn’t start Carrington. Around the 1st 3:20 of the 1st qtr. UCONN built up a 5 point lead before Carrington came in. Carrington went on to play the entre game. The prior game they beat Michigan in OVT Carrington and a few of her teammates played 44 of 45 minutes. Carrington is now a WNBA player and clearly was better Trinity Oliver.
And based on all the amazing things he said about Saarah, and when we see what UONN lost in that they need things like rebounding etc—– it’s not the same as for example Maya. There was an established 3 (Kalana Greene) and 4 (Charde Houston. Charde had a terrific junior year) when Maya 1st joined. You could say keeping Paige at 4 is possible if it was about keeping as much establishment as possible but first off I say no way in this case for this team but more importantly that didn’t seem to be the path he was considering at all either.
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Post by ucchamp on Jun 23, 2024 16:12:30 GMT -5
Why is Geno mentioning she might, MIGHT, come off the bench? I was specifically referring to the analysis on the video. Not Geno's analysis. For eample his anlysis spiked out "pick-and-roll." I don' t believe Geno would spike that out in the ,manner he does. **I do wish I can find a comment he made after losing in 20-21 on YouTube about pick-and-rolls. I tred to find for Bulkey to listen and my interpretation but couldn't find. I even tried to pay but no luck they could find. But won't elaborate any more on that becuase until I find it means nothing other than my personal pov. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) BTW it wasn't negative on pick-and-rolls.
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Post by ucchamp on Jun 23, 2024 16:33:54 GMT -5
I have much different perpctive on Sarah than the video. Sarah, 1--- For all the positives he says about then why is he even mentioning if she might come off the bench? If he is that positive on her then why mention at all her coming off the bench? You mean keeping arguably our best rebounder on the bench would be a good idea? Arguably our best passing-big and probably our best outside- shooting-big and arguably our best ball-handling big on the bench to start after all the things he mentions building her up; that would be smart to not start her once the tough games begin? 2-- He mentions pick-and-rolls between her and Paige as excitement. Sure to a degree. And I understand pick-and-rolls are a component of the Offense. But for me, what is more exciting, much more, is how the players form into a 5-player Offense in which the team looks unstoppable. A two-player offense for me is like a gimmick. Running an offense in which 5 players are an unstoppable unit is much more exciting for me. The fact that he isn't putting her in the starting lineup is evidence of the immense level of talent on the team and the fact that it's June. My feeling is that she will start, based on her versatility, size, strength, three level scoring, passing, quick feet and high IQ. She also appears committed to a team concept. Her skill set suggests a player who makes those around her more effective. The only question is her lack of experience. All she needs to display is consistency. Geno doesn't have a lot of "UConn-experienced" upper classmen that are healthy right now. Fudd, Griffin and Ducharme may not be able to fully practice when practice starts. That is going to give several if not all of the new players an opportunity to start the first game. Geno isn't going to name a player a starter until they are 100% and have practiced to the coaches' expectations. I agree. I don't believe Geno knows other than Paige. But the fact that the analyst opened the door to not put her in the starting lineup was my point of question even though he seemed to define Sarah as "super." Also, he seems to have "penciled in” Jana as the starter with Sarah and Ice to battle it out at the 4. Do you think this might be the case too? If so, is it that he is putting height over playing ability? If you have what appears a super player at position of major need - and other than say game 1 in which you may win by 50+-- why wouldn't the analyst go along with your thinking and mine that she start when the 1st big game in which UCONN has a very tough opponent on their schedule? He appears to be seeing the same things you and I see in Sarah. Gotta run, thanks all for the discussion.
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Post by meyers7 on Jun 25, 2024 7:42:29 GMT -5
She will be a contender, and that's what is great. As I often say, starts farts. It don matter with this great group. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a season!!!! I was excited last year. But then they all started dropping like flies. I'll wait to see who actually comes back from injury and who actually doesn't get injured before I get excited.
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Post by semper on Jun 28, 2024 3:06:37 GMT -5
I know, man. Last year was the worst, and somehow, FF there were were...
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Post by doggydaddy on Jun 28, 2024 7:26:58 GMT -5
She will be a contender, and that's what is great. As I often say, starts farts. It don matter with this great group. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a season!!!! I was excited last year. But then they all started dropping like flies. I'll wait to see who actually comes back from injury and who actually doesn't get injured before I get excited. I’m just the opposite. I expect no one will get hurt, recovering players will recover, and this will be the deepest team in UConn history. Until it isn’t.
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Post by meyers7 on Jun 28, 2024 8:23:40 GMT -5
I was excited last year. But then they all started dropping like flies. I'll wait to see who actually comes back from injury and who actually doesn't get injured before I get excited. I’m just the opposite. I expect no one will get hurt, recovering players will recover, and this will be the deepest team in UConn history. Until it isn’t. The last couple of years has jaded/disillusioned me. (ok jaded me more than I'm already jaded ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) ) Guess it's that living in reality thing. Such a problem for me.
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Post by doggydaddy on Jun 28, 2024 10:12:43 GMT -5
I’m just the opposite. I expect no one will get hurt, recovering players will recover, and this will be the deepest team in UConn history. Until it isn’t. The last couple of years has jaded/disillusioned me. (ok jaded me more than I'm already jaded ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) ) Guess it's that living in reality thing. Such a problem for me. What IS is reality. What could be is not.
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Post by meyers7 on Jun 28, 2024 12:05:25 GMT -5
The last couple of years has jaded/disillusioned me. (ok jaded me more than I'm already jaded ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) ) Guess it's that living in reality thing. Such a problem for me. What IS is reality. What could be is not. You're right. And what is, is Fudd, Patterson, CFD, Griffin are not available. They "could be", in the future. But until they are....they aren't. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Reality. Ha-ha, you kind of walked into that one.
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Post by doggydaddy on Jun 28, 2024 12:14:55 GMT -5
What IS is reality. What could be is not. You're right. And what is, is Fudd, Patterson, CFD, Griffin are not available. They "could be", in the future. But until they are....they aren't. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Reality. Ha-ha, you kind of walked into that one. Reality from Geno - “ Rehab for all of them is a different timetable for all of them … Some are real close. Some are still a little bit away, but I’m optimistic that all of them are going to be good to go at some point. I’m not saying they’re all going to be good to go in September, but they’ll all be good to go at some point.” I look at that positively. Not sure you do.
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Post by linkster on Jun 29, 2024 23:47:58 GMT -5
It's a classic "Schrodinger's Cat" situation. Until the first game the team is both healthy and recovered AND unhealthy and injured.
And that's about my total knowledge of theoretical physics.
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