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Post by doggydaddy on May 16, 2024 6:36:15 GMT -5
And what we can possibly see from one player that we have not had the opportunity to see healthy and at the top of her game for more than a few games at a time.
Azzi Fudd is looking really good based on the reports I've seen. As healthy as she has been in years. And I know some here remember how good she can be, but because if her past injuries, our expectations are tempered.
Well, I'm here to say get on board the Fudd train. She is going to start, whether it's at the two or the three. And she will star.
Here are a few early predictions. Some over the top, some just make sense.
1. She will lead the team in scoring.
2. She will be an all-american.
3. She will average 50/40/90 on her shooting.
Here are a few videos to remind us of what she can do when healthy.
So much "If Only". Now it's time!
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Post by UConnChapette on May 16, 2024 7:21:52 GMT -5
Thanks, DD. I can't wait to see Azzi play again.
I also saw a few glimpses of other players we have missed seeing, especially this past season. Aubrey, Caroline, Ayanna. If all can return and play to their potential UConn will be scary good. Both on paper and on the court.
This will likely be my last year with season tickets. I am hoping to see really special and great things!
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Post by meyers7 on May 16, 2024 7:28:13 GMT -5
Thanks, DD. I can't wait to see Azzi play again. I also saw a few glimpses of other players we have missed seeing, especially this past season. Aubrey, Caroline, Ayanna. If all can return and play to their potential UConn will be scary good. Both on paper and on the court. This will likely be my last year with season tickets. I am hoping to see really special and great things!A NC would be a great way to go out! |
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Post by grrrrr on May 16, 2024 7:39:27 GMT -5
All I want this season is for everyone to be and stay healthy, everything else will work out.
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Post by bulkey on May 16, 2024 9:03:20 GMT -5
Thanks for this, DD. I also went back about a month ago and watched a lot of old tape on Azzi and was completely blown away (all over again). She wasn't the #1 high school player for nuttin'!
Not only the sweetest jumper in all basketball, but her quickness and court sense are hors categorie. Geno has the luxury of letting her work her way in at her own pace, with Ashlynn fully ready, Allie eager for minutes, and even Kaitlyn able to slide into the #2.
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Post by ucchamp on May 16, 2024 11:14:53 GMT -5
I am fully and completely aboard the Azzi train and believe if she is healthy all year she will be a beast - but Imo she needs to come off the bench to start the year. After her soph year in H/S - she has not had one complete year since. And every year leading up - we hear she is healthy just as we hear yet again.
On top of it, there is a risk some days Geno might want to sit her or her knee is acting up et c - why mess with pulling one starter in and out even if it is just a game or two?
IMO its best for her and the team if she doesn't start. Works her way in from the bench. What is most important is team chemistry and for Azzi to be available for the late season run. Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy.
*****Azzi Fudd when helathy is a top 5 player in WCBB especially when you team her up with Paige. What she id in that 6 game stretch her soph year was tremenedous.
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Post by bulkey on May 16, 2024 12:29:28 GMT -5
I am fully and completely aboard the Azzi train and believe if she is healthy all year she will be a beast - but Imo she needs to come off the bench to start the year. After her soph year in H/S - she has not had one complete year since. And every year leading up - we hear she is healthy just as we hear yet again. On top of it, there is a risk some days Geno might want to sit her or her knee is acting up et c - why mess with pulling one starter in and out even if it is just a game or two? IMO its best for her and the team if she doesn't start. Works her way in from the bench. What is most important is team chemistry and for Azzi to be available for the late season run. Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy. *****Azzi Fudd when helathy is a top 5 player in WCBB especially when you team her up with Paige. What she id in that 6 game stretch her soph year was tremenedous. That may well be how it works out. Geno has a lot of flexibility in the 2 guard, plus Azzi may well stay another year after this (to prove her professional value), so she certainly has an interest in being as safe as possible. |
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Post by swash on May 16, 2024 12:54:42 GMT -5
And what we can possibly see from one player that we have not had the opportunity to see healthy and at the top of her game for more than a few games at a time. Azzi Fudd is looking really good based on the reports I've seen. As healthy as she has been in years. And I know some here remember how good she can be, but because if her past injuries, our expectations are tempered. Well, I'm here to say get on board the Fudd train. She is going to start, whether it's at the two or the three. And she will star. Here are a few early predictions. Some over the top, some just make sense. 1. She will lead the team in scoring. 2. She will be an all-american. 3. She will average 50/40/90 on her shooting. Here are a few videos to remind us of what she can do when healthy. So much "If Only". Now it's time! I hit the LOL, but it is more like giddy about the prospects for this coming year that make me chortle with delight. |
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Post by swash on May 16, 2024 13:29:27 GMT -5
I am fully and completely aboard the Azzi train and believe if she is healthy all year she will be a beast - but Imo she needs to come off the bench to start the year. After her soph year in H/S - she has not had one complete year since. And every year leading up - we hear she is healthy just as we hear yet again. On top of it, there is a risk some days Geno might want to sit her or her knee is acting up et c - why mess with pulling one starter in and out even if it is just a game or two? IMO its best for her and the team if she doesn't start. Works her way in from the bench. What is most important is team chemistry and for Azzi to be available for the late season run. Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy. *****Azzi Fudd when helathy is a top 5 player in WCBB especially when you team her up with Paige. What she id in that 6 game stretch her soph year was tremenedous. I get the logic, but ... If Azzi is right, Geno will surely start her. No? I expect Ms. Fudd to be fully ready to start the season, and I think she'll reward us with thrills on a nightly basis. That doesn't mean Ash gets relegated. I expect her to get a fair number of minutes as a prime contributor in the main rotation. One very intriguing question to me is the four slot: -I am expecting Aubrey may be still rehabbing when the first curtain rises, and/or limited whenever she is deemed ready. Else, I would anticipate her as the top PF.... hopefully by tourney time. -Will Caroline play? Will she be mostly on the wing, or play some (maybe a lot) at PF. -Will Sarah ease her way into the pond, or kick posterior and take names. If she is ready for an early lead role at the four spot, that means Geno can preserve both Ice and Jana for Center duties, combining them (four/five) in stretches later in games, at least initially. -There will be more minutes available at forward than SG or wing. Is this where we will see Q and/or Morgan stretch their wings and fledge? -Will Ayanna break into the rotation here, or will she mostly serve as a backup center? |
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Post by ucchamp on May 16, 2024 15:11:51 GMT -5
I am fully and completely aboard the Azzi train and believe if she is healthy all year she will be a beast - but Imo she needs to come off the bench to start the year. After her soph year in H/S - she has not had one complete year since. And every year leading up - we hear she is healthy just as we hear yet again. On top of it, there is a risk some days Geno might want to sit her or her knee is acting up et c - why mess with pulling one starter in and out even if it is just a game or two? IMO its best for her and the team if she doesn't start. Works her way in from the bench. What is most important is team chemistry and for Azzi to be available for the late season run. Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy. *****Azzi Fudd when helathy is a top 5 player in WCBB especially when you team her up with Paige. What she id in that 6 game stretch her soph year was tremenedous. That may well be how it works out. Geno has a lot of flexibility in the 2 guard, plus Azzi may well stay another year after this (to prove her professional value), so she certainly has an interest in being as safe as possible. With all her injuries - unless is degenerative- imo she'd be crazy to leave after this season.  |
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Post by ucchamp on May 16, 2024 16:18:06 GMT -5
I am fully and completely aboard the Azzi train and believe if she is healthy all year she will be a beast - but Imo she needs to come off the bench to start the year. After her soph year in H/S - she has not had one complete year since. And every year leading up - we hear she is healthy just as we hear yet again. On top of it, there is a risk some days Geno might want to sit her or her knee is acting up et c - why mess with pulling one starter in and out even if it is just a game or two? IMO its best for her and the team if she doesn't start. Works her way in from the bench. What is most important is team chemistry and for Azzi to be available for the late season run. Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy. *****Azzi Fudd when helathy is a top 5 player in WCBB especially when you team her up with Paige. What she id in that 6 game stretch her soph year was tremenedous. I get the logic, but ... If Azzi is right, Geno will surely start her. No? I expect Ms. Fudd to be fully ready to start the season, and I think she'll reward us with thrills on a nightly basis. That doesn't mean Ash gets relegated. I expect her to get a fair number of minutes as a prime contributor in the main rotation. One very intriguing question to me is the four slot: -I am expecting Aubrey may be still rehabbing when the first curtain rises, and/or limited whenever she is deemed ready. Else, I would anticipate her as the top PF.... hopefully by tourney time. -Will Caroline play? Will she be mostly on the wing, or play some (maybe a lot) at PF. -Will Sarah ease her way into the pond, or kick posterior and take names. If she is ready for an early lead role at the four spot, that means Geno can preserve both Ice and Jana for Center duties, combining them (four/five) in stretches later in games, at least initially. -There will be more minutes available at forward than SG or wing. Is this where we will see Q and/or Morgan stretch their wings and fledge? -Will Ayanna break into the rotation here, or will she mostly serve as a backup center? When you say "If Azzi is right" -- the point is - I don't believe anyone should believe “she is right” until she proves it with many games. The Doctors have been wrong for 2 or even 3 years. Her frosh year after about 5 games she gets hurt and no play indicative of the cause. Her soph year Edwards falls on her - it didn't appear that bad - yet she is basically "done" for the rest of the season. IMO indicative of a weak knee. Her jr year she took a funny step in Practice. No major play etc - just a funny step. The Dr past diagnosis does not make me confident. I am a 100% behind Geno you can see on here. I agree with him for example using a smaller bench. I love how he focuses on Offense. I love how he wants to play fastbreak hoop but not go crazy. I love how he isn't fixated on playing conventional. But in this case with Azzi - if he is giving her many minutes early and she eventually gets hurt-- I'm gonna be really ripping mad at him on here. The Doctors/training staff have been wrong for 3 straight years / and/or Azzi has proven she has not been a good gamble/risk to play her much. They are all 0-3 in my book. There is no reason to trust anyone telling us that "Azzi is right" for at least first month of the season if not weill into month 2. As for the PF spot, I can't tell you how giddy I am with Sarah. IMO she is near lock to be at least an Honorable Mention A/A this season at the PF if healthy. I believe I mentioned that to you a month ago. What she is going to be able to do for this team -- her basketball strengths fit amazingly well for what UCONN needs. They need a rebounder and that is one her strengths. Geno loves fundamental triple-threat face-the basket players and that is one her strengths (pass/dribble/shoot). And she can score inside. I have a bit of a question how well she can score inside vs elite teams but at least she’ll be good enough that gives UCONN a higher floor / i.e. less likely to get upset vs "pretty good" teams because she can also score inside. She’ll then "allow" the best of the 3 - Jana/.Ice/Ayanna to settle into being most productive at 5 and then maybe one or 2 can also be a 4 when she needs a rest. Later on when Aubrey comes back Aubrey can guard the 3's on defense and be more inside oriented on Offense which she generally has been for most of her career. While Sarah can be more perimeter. In March having a healthy Azzi with Paige and Sarah makes this one frightening team. Too bad we don't have "a big" with experience but for any games Jana/Ice/Ayanna aren't doing very well - for sun I'm wondering if go small yet again in certain situations with Sarah at 5 and Paige at 4. At the 1-3 spots there is a ton of talent that a big would struggle mightily to match up with. |
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Post by linkster on May 16, 2024 17:14:46 GMT -5
I think slotting players into positions is impossible this season. There isn't one player on the team that self-identifies as a center. El Alfy, Brady, Strong and Patterson are all best described as stretch 4's much like ONO and Juhasz. Patterson hasn't shown her outside shot yet but she is probably the best perimeter defender of the 4 due to her quick feet. Cheli, Ducharme Griffin and Samuels all have varying skill levels at the 1-4. Bueckers, Fudd & Arnold are all able to play pg. Ziebell, Chen & Shade are either 2's or 3's (scorers) for the most part. The major task in front of the coaches is finding out which combinations are most effective at each end of the floor. Roles will change with substitutions and at times from possession to possession. Health, as always, will be key but so will the ability of the 1st year players to quickly absorb the system. The players that can fill multiple roles will see more minutes. Rebounders will play regardless of their roster position. Same with outside shooters. Geno could put El Alfy, Brady and Strong on the court together and not only have size and power inside but three very good 3 pt shooters that can all run the floor. (admittedly I haven't seen El Alfy do that yet)
The number of teams that can be made from a roster of 14 is 14X13X12X11X10 divided by 5X4X3X2 OR 2002. I'll predict that we'll see a good % of those during the season and that by tournament time the coaches will have multiple answers for any opposing lineup they face.
That's my May 16th view.
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Post by doggydaddy on May 17, 2024 6:43:58 GMT -5
I am fully and completely aboard the Azzi train and believe if she is healthy all year she will be a beast - but Imo she needs to come off the bench to start the year. After her soph year in H/S - she has not had one complete year since. And every year leading up - we hear she is healthy just as we hear yet again. On top of it, there is a risk some days Geno might want to sit her or her knee is acting up et c - why mess with pulling one starter in and out even if it is just a game or two? IMO its best for her and the team if she doesn't start. Works her way in from the bench. What is most important is team chemistry and for Azzi to be available for the late season run. Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy. *****Azzi Fudd when helathy is a top 5 player in WCBB especially when you team her up with Paige. What she id in that 6 game stretch her soph year was tremenedous. I totally disagree with you on her starting. If she is ready to go at the start of the season, Geno will start her. He doesn't baby players. His mindset is not to look at a player and "oh, she might get hurt again, I better bring her off the bench". For one thing, the players warm up and starters play right away. I would imagine that warming up and then cooling off before coming in 15 minutes later would not be good for her if you have concerns about her being healthy. I'm sorry that her prior injuries have you so spooked that a potential 1st team AA shouldn't start. And players rotate all the time without messing up chemistry. I don't think that is a concern of Geno at all. If she is ready to go, she will start. No offense, but you have no idea how she will be in 6 more months of rehab. I'd look more at Paige's situation. Yes, her rehab was longer as her surgery was in the summer but again, if Azzi is ready to go, 100% cleared by the doctors, she will start and should start. Starting is not the issue, minutes might be the issue. Even that shouldn't be. Again look at Paige. She had a terrible injury her sophomore year yet came back before the end of the season and led the Huskies to the final four and started right away. Geno limited her minutes early. And the season after her ACL surgery? She looked as good as ever. I think you are way to negative and too cautious in your thinking about Azzi. She expects to be 100%. So should we. "Break "the Porsche" in slowly. She is a "Porsche" when healthy." Totally agree. But you break her in slowly during practice. Once the race has started, you put the pedal to the metal. |
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Post by UConnChapette on May 17, 2024 6:55:39 GMT -5
The chances of injury are the same whether Azzi starts or comes off the bench. Injuries happen and some players are more prone to injury. Shea Ralph for one. Shea was noticeably pigeon-toed. I wonder if that has any correlation to the increased likelihood of knee injuries?
I wonder if Azzi may play with a brace? Maybe add a little stability to the knee? We will see.
I do agree that if she is deemed 100% good to go, she starts.
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Post by ucchamp on May 17, 2024 10:04:23 GMT -5
The chances of injury are the same whether Azzi starts or comes off the bench. Injuries happen and some players are more prone to injury. Shea Ralph for one. Shea was noticeably pigeon-toed. I wonder if that has any correlation to the increased likelihood of knee injuries? I wonder if Azzi may play with a brace? Maybe add a little stability to the knee? We will see. I do agree that if she is deemed 100% good to go, she starts. I don't agree. (1) Geno has a tendency to leave his starters in and he forgets about his bench. It's why he apologized to Q one game during the NCAA's (I doubt that has been the only time. Bulkey: Do I need to find the quote for that?). It's not a failing because stars want to play (i.e the comment once made by Paige to Geno in her frosh year to paraphrase "You owe me minutes." Another quote I recall. Bulkey the quote is behind a paywall but Googled below from a CT Post article. Can see on google teh CT Post article headline. And I doubt Paige is the only one that thinks this way.) When you are a superstar you know Geno is going to give you minutes and Azzi when healthy is a superstar. And not only is it beneficial for recruiting imo he does do it in addition because he wants to coach excellence which is why he leaves his stars in sometimes when they are up by over 30 even though game is decided. Which imo is his strength generally that some may feel is a weakness. And secondly, I believe continuity is important. I'm concerned she might need a game off here or there even if she is deemed healthy. (3 related to #2)) I realize Geno can control minutes but I don't believe he does (not just that he forgets but in a way he is like Tom T from the Knicks though not as much as him). I realize Azzi could end up being 100% healthy but I don't trust she will (she'll either need a game off as an exmaple or a couple of games play veyr few minutes beucase of her knee as "pre-cauition.). (4) I realize Azzi could possibly play every game but I don't think she should see how she hasn't done it in 5/6 consecutive years (which is why I think she'd be crazy to go into WNBA next year unless her knee is degenerative) Five or 6 consecuitve years of which only teh COVID year she hasn't been hurt?. (5) And as stated I don’t agree with those medical/training who have been wrong these past several years should be trusted. I don't understand why anyone would trust the medicals that much without seing performance for at least one to two months? Why not be cautious if it has been this long? WHich in a way why I implied caution going into WNBA (which I argued last year on another site with a a non-UCONN fan poster why I felt Clark should go to WNBA after season over vs Paige shouldn't.). Caution. I realize this is mostly repeat of what I said before but I just wanted to let it flow by adding more hahaha -- anyhow I just wanted to highlight it's not one thing-- it’s the accumulation of the above. Some of the above can be lumped but there are different reasons to sit a player. If you want to lump this into 3 things – okay but there’s a bit of detail for each. Link: www.google.com/search?q=paige+bucjkers+to+geno+auriemma+%22You+owe+me+minutes%22&sca_esv=8ded6165f44582e6&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS927US927&sxsrf=ADLYWILstJ3I3XmhHm2MwnKVz_JGFdv27w%3A1715957640983&ei=iG9HZsnBO6ugiLMPrfWxsAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjJpY-t-JSGAxUrEGIAHa16DEYQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=paige+bucjkers+to+geno+auriemma+%22You+owe+me+minutes%22&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiNHBhaWdlIGJ1Y2prZXJzIHRvIGdlbm8gYXVyaWVtbWEgIllvdSBvd2UgbWUgbWludXRlcyIyBBAhGApInlRQrylYwUZwAngAkAEAmAF6oAHgAqoBAzAuM7gBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6AC5wLCAggQABiABBiiBJgDAIgGAZIHAzAuM6AH_gw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp |
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Post by UConnChapette on May 17, 2024 10:16:33 GMT -5
The chances of injury are the same whether Azzi starts or comes off the bench. Injuries happen and some players are more prone to injury. Shea Ralph for one. Shea was noticeably pigeon-toed. I wonder if that has any correlation to the increased likelihood of knee injuries? I wonder if Azzi may play with a brace? Maybe add a little stability to the knee? We will see. I do agree that if she is deemed 100% good to go, she starts. I don't agree. (1) Geno has a tendency to leave his starters in and he forgets about his bench. It's why he apologized to Q one game during the NCAA's (I doubt that has been the only time. Bulkey: Do I need to find the quote for that?). It's not a failing because stars want to play (i.e the comment once made by Paige to Geno in her frosh year to paraphrase "You owe me minutes." Another quote I recall. Bulkey the quote is behind a paywall but Googled below from a CT Post article. Can see on google teh CT Post article headline. And I doubt Paige is the only one that thinks this way.) When you are a superstar you know Geno is going to give you minutes and Azzi when healthy is a superstar. And not only is it beneficial for recruiting imo he does do it in addition because he wants to coach excellence which is why he leaves his stars in sometimes when they are up by over 30 even though game is decided. Which imo is his strength generally that some may feel is a weakness. And secondly, I believe continuity is important. I'm concerned she might need a game off here or there even if she is deemed healthy. (3 related to #2)) I realize Geno can control minutes but I don't believe he does (not just that he forgets but in a way he is like Tom T from the Knicks though not as much as him). I realize Azzi could end up being 100% healthy but I don't trust she will. (4) I realize Azzi could possibly play every game but I don't think she should see how she hasn't done it in 5/6 consecutive years (which is why I think she'd be crazy to go into WNBA next year unless her knee is degenerative) Five or 6 consecuitve years of which only teh COVID year she hasn't been hurt?. (5) And as stated I don’t agree with those medical/training who have been wrong these past several years should be trusted. I don't understand why anyone would trust the medicals that much without seing performance for at least one to two months? Why not be cautious if it has been this long? WHich in a way why I implied caution going into WNBA (which I argued last year on another site with a a non-UCONN fan poster why I felt Clark should go to WNBA after season over vs Paige shouldn't.). Caution. I realize this is mostly repeat of what I said before but I just wanted to let it flow by adding more hahaha -- anyhow I just wanted to highlight it's not one thing-- it’s the accumulation of the above. Some of the above can be lumped but there are different reasons to sit a player. If you want to lump his into 3 things – okay but there’s a bit of detail for each. Link: www.google.com/search?q=paige+bucjkers+to+geno+auriemma+%22You+owe+me+minutes%22&sca_esv=8ded6165f44582e6&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS927US927&sxsrf=ADLYWILstJ3I3XmhHm2MwnKVz_JGFdv27w%3A1715957640983&ei=iG9HZsnBO6ugiLMPrfWxsAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjJpY-t-JSGAxUrEGIAHa16DEYQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=paige+bucjkers+to+geno+auriemma+%22You+owe+me+minutes%22&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiNHBhaWdlIGJ1Y2prZXJzIHRvIGdlbm8gYXVyaWVtbWEgIllvdSBvd2UgbWUgbWludXRlcyIyBBAhGApInlRQrylYwUZwAngAkAEAmAF6oAHgAqoBAzAuM7gBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6AC5wLCAggQABiABBiiBJgDAIgGAZIHAzAuM6AH_gw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp. I respect your disagreement. All I will say in response is Paige played all this past season with no reinjury. Same doctors, same trainers. Seems like they were pretty successful getting Paige back to health. |
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Post by ucchamp on May 17, 2024 10:31:47 GMT -5
I don't agree. (1) Geno has a tendency to leave his starters in and he forgets about his bench. It's why he apologized to Q one game during the NCAA's (I doubt that has been the only time. Bulkey: Do I need to find the quote for that?). It's not a failing because stars want to play (i.e the comment once made by Paige to Geno in her frosh year to paraphrase "You owe me minutes." Another quote I recall. Bulkey the quote is behind a paywall but Googled below from a CT Post article. Can see on google teh CT Post article headline. And I doubt Paige is the only one that thinks this way.) When you are a superstar you know Geno is going to give you minutes and Azzi when healthy is a superstar. And not only is it beneficial for recruiting imo he does do it in addition because he wants to coach excellence which is why he leaves his stars in sometimes when they are up by over 30 even though game is decided. Which imo is his strength generally that some may feel is a weakness. And secondly, I believe continuity is important. I'm concerned she might need a game off here or there even if she is deemed healthy. (3 related to #2)) I realize Geno can control minutes but I don't believe he does (not just that he forgets but in a way he is like Tom T from the Knicks though not as much as him). I realize Azzi could end up being 100% healthy but I don't trust she will. (4) I realize Azzi could possibly play every game but I don't think she should see how she hasn't done it in 5/6 consecutive years (which is why I think she'd be crazy to go into WNBA next year unless her knee is degenerative) Five or 6 consecuitve years of which only teh COVID year she hasn't been hurt?. (5) And as stated I don’t agree with those medical/training who have been wrong these past several years should be trusted. I don't understand why anyone would trust the medicals that much without seing performance for at least one to two months? Why not be cautious if it has been this long? WHich in a way why I implied caution going into WNBA (which I argued last year on another site with a a non-UCONN fan poster why I felt Clark should go to WNBA after season over vs Paige shouldn't.). Caution. I realize this is mostly repeat of what I said before but I just wanted to let it flow by adding more hahaha -- anyhow I just wanted to highlight it's not one thing-- it’s the accumulation of the above. Some of the above can be lumped but there are different reasons to sit a player. If you want to lump his into 3 things – okay but there’s a bit of detail for each. Link: www.google.com/search?q=paige+bucjkers+to+geno+auriemma+%22You+owe+me+minutes%22&sca_esv=8ded6165f44582e6&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS927US927&sxsrf=ADLYWILstJ3I3XmhHm2MwnKVz_JGFdv27w%3A1715957640983&ei=iG9HZsnBO6ugiLMPrfWxsAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjJpY-t-JSGAxUrEGIAHa16DEYQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=paige+bucjkers+to+geno+auriemma+%22You+owe+me+minutes%22&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiNHBhaWdlIGJ1Y2prZXJzIHRvIGdlbm8gYXVyaWVtbWEgIllvdSBvd2UgbWUgbWludXRlcyIyBBAhGApInlRQrylYwUZwAngAkAEAmAF6oAHgAqoBAzAuM7gBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6AC5wLCAggQABiABBiiBJgDAIgGAZIHAzAuM6AH_gw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp. I respect your disagreement. All I will say in response is Paige played all this past season with no reinjury. Same doctors, same trainers. Seems like they were pretty successful getting Paige back to health. Paige played all 4 years in H/S -- 4 complete seasons -- Azzi played 2 plus one COVID year H/S year. Paige did play in COVD year too but a lot of games (1049 minutes) as a frosh vs Azzi as a frosh. Her best is 698. - It's not this past year it's "698." It's the prior year with very little two years before that IMO that's a big difference. -- And. Paige - the same year in which she was hurt in which Azzi was a frosh- came close to Azzi with 497 minutes. |
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Post by UConnChapette on May 17, 2024 11:30:38 GMT -5
The only sure fire way to prevent injury is the same sure fire way to prevent pregnancy. Abstinence. The risk is the same if she plays one minute or 30 minutes. Her last injury was during shoot around or practice. But it is her risk to take.
I feel a bit differently about Caroline. Brain injuries can be a forever and life altering injury. If I’m Geno (and thank God I am not) I would be far more cautious with Caroline than Azzi. They could both face lifetime injuries by playing (any amount of time) but given the choice I would rather live with a damaged knee than a damaged brain.
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Post by meyers7 on May 17, 2024 12:03:42 GMT -5
The only sure fire way to prevent injury is the same sure fire way to prevent pregnancy. Abstinence. The risk is the same if she plays one minute or 30 minutes. Her last injury was during shoot around or practice. But it is her risk to take. I feel a bit differently about Caroline. Brain injuries can be a forever and life altering injury. If I’m Geno (and thank God I am not) I would be far more cautious with Caroline than Azzi. They could both face lifetime injuries by playing (any amount of time) but given the choice I would rather live with a damaged knee than a damaged brain. Well that's obviously not true. And you just proved it in your prior sentences. Like pregnancy, sure 1 time and you can get pregnant. BUT if you are having sex every day, much more likely to get pregnant. And besides just the time/opportunity variable, there is muscle fatigue the longer you play....which can increase chances of injury. However, if Fudd is planning on playing in the WNBA, at some point she's going to have to prove to the GMs they she can play extended minutes. So I doubt she's going to want to be on limited minutes, unless it's absolutely necessary. And if it is absolutely necessary, then that's not a good look for GMs. So yeah, I think IF she can play, she's gonna play. |
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Post by ucchamp on May 17, 2024 12:33:47 GMT -5
The only sure fire way to prevent injury is the same sure fire way to prevent pregnancy. Abstinence. The risk is the same if she plays one minute or 30 minutes. Her last injury was during shoot around or practice. But it is her risk to take. I feel a bit differently about Caroline. Brain injuries can be a forever and life altering injury. If I’m Geno (and thank God I am not) I would be far more cautious with Caroline than Azzi. They could both face lifetime injuries by playing (any amount of time) but given the choice I would rather live with a damaged knee than a damaged brain. Well that's obviously not true. And you just proved it in your prior sentences. Like pregnancy, sure 1 time and you can get pregnant. BUT if you are having sex every day, much more likely to get pregnant. And besides just the time/opportunity variable, there is muscle fatigue the longer you play....which can increase chances of injury. However, if Fudd is planning on playing in the WNBA, at some point she's going to have to prove to the GMs they she can play extended minutes. So I doubt she's going to want to be on limited minutes, unless it's absolutely necessary. And if it is absolutely necessary, then that's not a good look for GMs. So yeah, I think IF she can play, she's gonna play. That's why it would be perfect to have her get adjusted and start season slowly then have her pick up her minutes. If she we playing 15 minutes to start the year but in March/April she closing with 35 minutes the GM's won't care much at all what she was doing in Oct/Nov. Though she should come back - regardless. |
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Post by doggydaddy on May 17, 2024 13:54:28 GMT -5
. I respect your disagreement. All I will say in response is Paige played all this past season with no reinjury. Same doctors, same trainers. Seems like they were pretty successful getting Paige back to health. Paige played all 4 years in H/S -- 4 complete seasons -- Azzi played 2 plus one COVID year H/S year. Paige did play in COVD year too but a lot of games (1049 minutes) as a frosh vs Azzi as a frosh. Her best is 698. - It's not this past year it's "698." It's the prior year with very little two years before that IMO that's a big difference. -- And. Paige - the same year in which she was hurt in which Azzi was a frosh- came close to Azzi with 497 minutes. Can you explain what impact you think her lack of minutes have to do with her recovery from her knee surgery? Her missed time her freshman season was not from a knee issue. |
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Post by ucchamp on May 17, 2024 16:44:07 GMT -5
Paige played all 4 years in H/S -- 4 complete seasons -- Azzi played 2 plus one COVID year H/S year. Paige did play in COVD year too but a lot of games (1049 minutes) as a frosh vs Azzi as a frosh. Her best is 698. - It's not this past year it's "698." It's the prior year with very little two years before that IMO that's a big difference. -- And. Paige - the same year in which she was hurt in which Azzi was a frosh- came close to Azzi with 497 minutes. Can you explain what impact you think her lack of minutes have to do with her recovery from her knee surgery? Her missed time her freshman season was not from a knee issue. Not sure why it matters her knee injury or other injury? She's always been hurt. She hasn't played a full season in 5 years. Five years. That should be the point of emphasis along with last year she hurts herself from something not even contact related. We heard Geno refer to most of his players that have bene hurt had a pre-existing condition before they came to UCONN per the link below. So, I asked rhetorically before - and I don't want to be seem argumentative -- but I have a question for you and others that feel she should start- why do you trust the reports that she is "ready" until you see how she performs after 1 or 2 months? Because she clearly wasn't ready her frosh year. In her soph year that injury seemed excessive vs the time she was out. I could be wrong but it appears that way but looking at her jr year - a clear non-contact injury. So, why trust "she is ready" when she hasn't been other than the COVID year in which she wouldn't have played much that year to boot? So, to further that, if she hasn't played much basketball vs what a normal high end wcbb would play, why rush to start her then? Why mess with starting lineup vs a player that has shown she can't stay healthy until she shows she can rather be told she can? For me - Azzi is a top 5 wcbb player if healthy. In month 1 and even maybe in month 2-- for me I can't trust her health in which I can see all the injuires of the past several years along with she hasn't played much as a high end wcbb of her stature should. www.google.com/search?q=geno+auremimma+speaks+of+high+shcool+palyers+have+preexisting+injury+condtition&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS927US927&oq=geno+auremimma+speaks+of+high+shcool+palyers+have+preexisting+injury+condtition&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQIRgK0gEKMzIwOTBqMGoxNagCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4488dd39,vid:dikOWn_2D_I,st:0 |
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Post by doggydaddy on May 17, 2024 18:49:11 GMT -5
Can you explain what impact you think her lack of minutes have to do with her recovery from her knee surgery? Her missed time her freshman season was not from a knee issue. Not sure why it matters her knee injury or other injury? She's always been hurt. She hasn't played a full season in 5 years. Five years. That should be the point of emphasis along with last year she hurts herself from something not even contact related. We heard Geno refer to most of his players that have bene hurt had a pre-existing condition before they came to UCONN per the link below. So, I asked rhetorically before - and I don't want to be seem argumentative -- but I have a question for you and others that feel she should start- why do you trust the reports that she is "ready" until you see how she performs after 1 or 2 months? Because she clearly wasn't ready her frosh year. In her soph year that injury seemed excessive vs the time she was out. I could be wrong but it appears that way but looking at her jr year - a clear non-contact injury. So, why trust "she is ready" when she hasn't been other than the COVID year in which she wouldn't have played much that year to boot? So, to further that, if she hasn't played much basketball vs what a normal high end wcbb would play, why rush to start her then? Why mess with starting lineup vs a player that has shown she can't stay healthy until she shows she can rather be told she can? The difference between a stress fracture of the foot and a knee injury is pretty obvious. One doesn't lead to the other. And the two collisions caused the knee injury the next season. Sadly, there was clearly still weakness in the knee when she tore the ACL the following season. She only played 2 games so how much could have overuse caused that injury? It's the same knee she tore the ACL in High School. I'm very hopeful that better surgery tecniques will have this one make it the last one she ever has. And better recovery tecniques as well. Ok..enough about that. You seem to be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'll keep staying positive that she will be ready to go when the season starts 11 months after her surgery. And that she will get the all clear to play with no limitations. Her minutes may be only 20-25 each game but that won't be for cautionary reasons, it will be a product of having so many players that will deserve minutes at the 2-3 positions. You make it seem like we have any say in whether or not she starts and how many minutes she will play. You say don't start her if she is cleared to play out of caution. I say Geno will start her if she is cleared to play and play her 20-25 minutes. I'm sure Geno is worried that you will be so upset with him if he does it. |
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Post by ucchamp on May 18, 2024 2:31:18 GMT -5
Not sure why it matters her knee injury or other injury? She's always been hurt. She hasn't played a full season in 5 years. Five years. That should be the point of emphasis along with last year she hurts herself from something not even contact related. We heard Geno refer to most of his players that have bene hurt had a pre-existing condition before they came to UCONN per the link below. So, I asked rhetorically before - and I don't want to be seem argumentative -- but I have a question for you and others that feel she should start- why do you trust the reports that she is "ready" until you see how she performs after 1 or 2 months? Because she clearly wasn't ready her frosh year. In her soph year that injury seemed excessive vs the time she was out. I could be wrong but it appears that way but looking at her jr year - a clear non-contact injury. So, why trust "she is ready" when she hasn't been other than the COVID year in which she wouldn't have played much that year to boot? So, to further that, if she hasn't played much basketball vs what a normal high end wcbb would play, why rush to start her then? Why mess with starting lineup vs a player that has shown she can't stay healthy until she shows she can rather be told she can? The difference between a stress fracture of the foot and a knee injury is pretty obvious. One doesn't lead to the other. And the two collisions caused the knee injury the next season. Sadly, there was clearly still weakness in the knee when she tore the ACL the following season. She only played 2 games so how much could have overuse caused that injury? It's the same knee she tore the ACL in High School. I'm very hopeful that better surgery tecniques will have this one make it the last one she ever has. And better recovery tecniques as well. Ok..enough about that. You seem to be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'll keep staying positive that she will be ready to go when the season starts 11 months after her surgery. And that she will get the all clear to play with no limitations. Her minutes may be only 20-25 each game but that won't be for cautionary reasons, it will be a product of having so many players that will deserve minutes at the 2-3 positions. You make it seem like we have any say in whether or not she starts and how many minutes she will play. You say don't start her if she is cleared to play out of caution. I say Geno will start her if she is cleared to play and play her 20-25 minutes. I'm sure Geno is worried that you will be so upset with him if he does it. Again I ask why does it matter which injury she had when in fact she has been significantly injury prone? Knee or foot she has been hurt for 4 of last 5 years in which she hasn't played one full season in 5 consecutive years. IMO there is no reason to start the year to give her an average of 25 minutes. And you suggest I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop? Huh? I'm saying don't start her - and let her slowly roll into the season. That's not "waiting for the other shoe to drop." Over the years I'm sure there have been other teams- other players in which the coaching staff have been cautious with players coming back from injury too. A player that has been hurt as much as she has - I don't understand why from the get-go she should be consistently playing over half the game. I say give her 15-20 minutes to start the season from the bench. Then after 1 month maybe two up the minuets if no setbacks. If there is any game in between if she experiences any discomfort sit her. In this scenario you haven't affected who starts the game and if she is fine then the next day etc. then you have not had to mess with the lineup / juggle the starting lineup one bit. I'm not trying to predict what Geno is going to do. I'm saying what I believe he should do. And as stated I defend Geno and agree with him on so many things. I'm often with you going after other posters that are negative because I believe in Geno so much in that I agree with what he is doing soooooo often. All I'm saying is though that if he uses her too much early and she gets hurt (for example more than half a game. I don't mean one game he plays her 20 minutes and 15 seconds), but if it is obvious such as 25 minute average vs in between 15-20 - then I'm going to be one of the negative posters on here. And I don't want to be. And I'm on a chatborad on here. Why do you think he would care what anyone says on here? It seems like you're taking this personal all because I would prefer Geno be cautious (otherwise what was the point of your last statement other than dig at me personally?) . How often does Gneo care what's being posted on this board? Otherwise what's your point? I just disagree with you and others- that's all. No more no less. |
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Post by doggydaddy on May 18, 2024 7:12:11 GMT -5
The difference between a stress fracture of the foot and a knee injury is pretty obvious. One doesn't lead to the other. And the two collisions caused the knee injury the next season. Sadly, there was clearly still weakness in the knee when she tore the ACL the following season. She only played 2 games so how much could have overuse caused that injury? It's the same knee she tore the ACL in High School. I'm very hopeful that better surgery tecniques will have this one make it the last one she ever has. And better recovery tecniques as well. Ok..enough about that. You seem to be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'll keep staying positive that she will be ready to go when the season starts 11 months after her surgery. And that she will get the all clear to play with no limitations. Her minutes may be only 20-25 each game but that won't be for cautionary reasons, it will be a product of having so many players that will deserve minutes at the 2-3 positions. You make it seem like we have any say in whether or not she starts and how many minutes she will play. You say don't start her if she is cleared to play out of caution. I say Geno will start her if she is cleared to play and play her 20-25 minutes. I'm sure Geno is worried that you will be so upset with him if he does it. Again I ask why does it matter which injury she had when in fact she has been significantly injury prone? Knee or foot she has been hurt for 4 of last 5 years in which she hasn't played one full season in 5 consecutive years. IMO there is no reason to start the year to give her an average of 25 minutes. And you suggest I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop? Huh? I'm saying don't start her - and let her slowly roll into the season. That's not "waiting for the other shoe to drop." Over the years I'm sure there have been other teams- other players in which the coaching staff have been cautious with players coming back from injury too. A player that has been hurt as much as she has - I don't understand why from the get-go she should be consistently playing over half the game. I say give her 15-20 minutes to start the season from the bench. Then after 1 month maybe two up the minuets if no setbacks. If there is any game in between if she experiences any discomfort sit her. In this scenario you haven't affected who starts the game and if she is fine then the next day etc. then you have not had to mess with the lineup / juggle the starting lineup one bit. I'm not trying to predict what Geno is going to do. I'm saying what I believe he should do. And as stated I defend Geno and agree with him on so many things. I'm often with you going after other posters that are negative because I believe in Geno so much in that I agree with what he is doing soooooo often. All I'm saying is though that if he uses her too much early and she gets hurt (for example more than half a game. I don't mean one game he plays her 20 minutes and 15 seconds), but if it is obvious such as 25 minute average vs in between 15-20 - then I'm going to be one of the negative posters on here. And I don't want to be. And I'm on a chatborad on here. Why do you think he would care what anyone says on here? It seems like you're taking this personal all because I would prefer Geno be cautious (otherwise what was the point of your last statement other than dig at me personally?) . How often does Gneo care what's being posted on this board? Otherwise what's your point? I just disagree with you and others- that's all. No more no less. publlic apology uccamp! I'm in the process of moving. Packing boxes, making decisions and fighting with my wife more than usual. It's made me a little grumpy and argumentative. More than usual...lol. Yes, she is injury prone but I truely believe that doesn't mean she will always be. You need to see her for a few months to say she is ok. I say I'm going to think she is ok until she proves differently. Not a huge difference. You are just more cautious because of her history. I get that. I'm just more optomistic that she will be ok and ready to go full steam when the season starts until it's said she isn't. We both agree that 100% she is a big difference maker and we both want that to happen! So again, I'm sorry about my antagonistic postings. You're a great fan!! GO HUSKIES!! |
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