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Post by mdoggie on Sept 23, 2023 10:27:28 GMT -5
On TOB there is a picture of Sue Bird and Paige posted. The heading is “Legends”. Dare I say I don’t consider Paige a legend. What say you?
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Post by bulkey on Sept 23, 2023 10:37:45 GMT -5
On TOB there is a picture of Sue Bird and Paige posted. The heading is “Legends”. Dare I say I don’t consider Paige a legend. What say you? Only freshman ever voted national player of the year. She's a legend to me. |
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Post by mdoggie on Sept 23, 2023 11:03:45 GMT -5
On TOB there is a picture of Sue Bird and Paige posted. The heading is “Legends”. Dare I say I don’t consider Paige a legend. What say you? Only freshman ever voted national player of the year. She's a legend to me. But is she a legends to more than the typical UConn fan? |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 23, 2023 11:13:11 GMT -5
Only freshman ever voted national player of the year. She's a legend to me. But is she a legends to more than the typical UConn fan? I think so. She has a massive number of social media followers. |
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Post by chicagogg on Sept 23, 2023 11:47:02 GMT -5
i'll be a naysayer - Paige is gifted, astonishing, intelligent, charitable, charismatic. Yes, she was the first freshman NPOY. But legends have rings. Do I think she will be a legend? Yes. But now she is all of the traits listed prior and immensely popular.Legend status TBD.
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 23, 2023 12:24:51 GMT -5
Define legend.
Winning POY as a freshman is…….
Legendary.
Only at UConn would not winning a title be a disqualifier. Kinda silly.
Is Clark legendary?
Pete Maravich?
David Robinson?
Countless other amazing players that didn’t win a championship?
Paige is already a legend.
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Post by rukia on Sept 23, 2023 12:35:14 GMT -5
On TOB there is a picture of Sue Bird and Paige posted. The heading is “Legends”. Dare I say I don’t consider Paige a legend. What say you? not a legend. Not at UConn. |
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Post by BJ42 on Sept 23, 2023 17:40:45 GMT -5
Only freshman ever voted national player of the year. She's a legend to me. But is she a legends to more than the typical UConn fan? UConn fans don't care what non-UConn fans think about their players.  |
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Post by linkster on Sept 23, 2023 18:38:46 GMT -5
Define legend. Winning POY as a freshman is……. Legendary. Only at UConn would not winning a title be a disqualifier. Kinda silly. Is Clark legendary? Pete Maravich? David Robinson? Countless other amazing players that didn’t win a championship? Paige is already a legend. To me a legend is an event that when mentioned years later seems amazing. To be a legend you need to have performances that fans talk about 10+ years later. They can be legendary moments like Bird at the buzzer or periods of play like Bueckers in OT vs NCSt in the E8 or games like Clark vs SCar. |
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Post by linkster on Sept 23, 2023 18:44:24 GMT -5
i'll be a naysayer - Paige is gifted, astonishing, intelligent, charitable, charismatic. Yes, she was the first freshman NPOY. But legends have rings. Do I think she will be a legend? Yes. But now she is all of the traits listed prior and immensely popular.Legend status TBD. Not true. Ted Williams? Rings may be the defining thing with a lot of UConn fans but that isn't what I think of as legendary (unless you win 4). |
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Post by chicagogg on Sept 24, 2023 10:58:16 GMT -5
I give full props to DD and Linkster for their excellent counterpoints. Perhaps I should take from their examples and refine my point.
The legendary examples they cited - Maravich, Robinson, Williams - had extraordinary, lengthy bodies of work to cement their status. Paige at this point in time does not have a substantial body of work due to injury. What she has achieved is certainly unique - the NPOY in freshman year, but she is still working on cementing her legacy. Which we all hope and anticipate that she will.
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Post by rukia on Sept 24, 2023 12:30:31 GMT -5
Azzi has more to prove than Paige. I was thinking Azzi would be a UConn legend when they landed her commitment.
I have said it before. Azzi is my favorite player on this team. I want the pressure to be high on her to deliver this season.
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Post by meyers7 on Sept 25, 2023 7:53:03 GMT -5
I give full props to DD and Linkster for their excellent counterpoints. Perhaps I should take from their examples and refine my point. The legendary examples they cited - Maravich, Robinson, Williams - had extraordinary, lengthy bodies of work to cement their status. Paige at this point in time does not have a substantial body of work due to injury. What she has achieved is certainly unique - the NPOY in freshman year, but she is still working on cementing her legacy. Which we all hope and anticipate that she will. Agree, not a legend yet. Great player, absolutely.....for a year. Lot's of players have a great year. But to be a legend at UCONN (and that's what we're talking here), you gotta do it more than 1 year. IF she wins a ring this year and next, then we can talk about legend. To me "legend" means Mt Rushmore (DT, Moore, Stewart) or possibly Tier 1 (Lobo, Bird, Charles, Jefferson, Abrosimova, Collier). And that's being generous. At this point in her career, The Kid is at neither.....yet. Let her finish her career, then we'll know (or we can at least argue with all the facts). |
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 8:29:27 GMT -5
Mt . Rushmore is a category. I believe a legend is another category.
It wasn’t one season for Paige. It was one and a half. And what a great half it was. That North Carolina game? Wow. Dare I say legendary?
Not winning the championship game was unfortunate but doesn’t diminish her 1/2 season.
That FOY, POY season was unprecedented. Might never happen again. Legendary.
Incredible social media presence.
She is already a legend and will only add to her story.
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Post by vtcwbuff on Sept 25, 2023 8:41:35 GMT -5
I commented on the other board that while Bird is certainly a legend, Bueckers is not. She has played in 46 games, hardly a legendary body of work. My post was immediately removed.
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 8:46:58 GMT -5
I commented on the other board that while Bird is certainly a legend, Bueckers is not. She has played in 46 games, hardly a legendary body of work. My post was immediately removed. It’s a fair opinion. Ridiculous action by Nan. |
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Post by mdoggie on Sept 25, 2023 10:01:47 GMT -5
I commented on the other board that while Bird is certainly a legend, Bueckers is not. She has played in 46 games, hardly a legendary body of work. My post was immediately removed. That’ll get you banned! They are sensitive over there. |
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Post by meyers7 on Sept 25, 2023 13:29:34 GMT -5
Mt . Rushmore is a category. I believe a legend is another category. It wasn’t one season for Paige. It was one and a half. And what a great half it was. That North Carolina game? Wow. Dare I say legendary? Not winning the championship game was unfortunate but doesn’t diminish her 1/2 season. That FOY, POY season was unprecedented. Might never happen again. Legendary. Incredible social media presence. She is already a legend and will only add to her story. Eh, we'll have to disagree here. You gotta win something and have a career (at least at UCONN) to be a legend. Year and a half don't make a legend. Having a "legendary" year, doesn't make you a legend (at least at UCONN). Hey, some of us just have higher standards. Clark had a unbelievable year last year. But didn't win anything. Is she a legend? Sure, at Iowa. (but not at UCONN - we are supposed to have higher standards) You sound like a Hawkeye, or a Vol or a Gamecock fan. Remember who we are. Don't diminish it. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 25, 2023 13:42:41 GMT -5
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 14:14:15 GMT -5
Mt . Rushmore is a category. I believe a legend is another category. It wasn’t one season for Paige. It was one and a half. And what a great half it was. That North Carolina game? Wow. Dare I say legendary? Not winning the championship game was unfortunate but doesn’t diminish her 1/2 season. That FOY, POY season was unprecedented. Might never happen again. Legendary. Incredible social media presence. She is already a legend and will only add to her story. Eh, we'll have to disagree here. You gotta win something and have a career (at least at UCONN) to be a legend. Year and a half don't make a legend. Having a "legendary" year, doesn't make you a legend (at least at UCONN). Hey, some of us just have higher standards. Clark had a unbelievable year last year. But didn't win anything. Is she a legend? Sure, at Iowa. (but not at UCONN - we are supposed to have higher standards) You sound like a Hawkeye, or a Vol or a Gamecock fan. Remember who we are. Don't diminish it. She’s a legend. |
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 14:15:11 GMT -5
Don Larson is a legend. Based on ONE game. |
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Post by vtcwbuff on Sept 25, 2023 14:52:07 GMT -5
Don Larson is a legend. Based on ONE game.Nope. The one game is a legend. |
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 15:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by mdoggie on Sept 25, 2023 15:46:37 GMT -5
Yep High School legends in Minnesota. No argument here. |
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Post by swash on Sept 25, 2023 15:48:19 GMT -5
Don Larson is a legend. Based on ONE game. Bob Beamon. Clearly a legend based on a single (very) long jump. Hank Gathers became one, in an entirely different way. David Tyree made one unbelievable play at the right moment. Who is that kid that caught a flyball from his seat just before the Cubs blew the World Series? Legend. Rosie Ruiz? Ben Johnson? Yep. Them, too. Anyway, ledgend-hood is... flexible. The rules change all the time... and probably should. If returns to be Supergirl, that'll be legend. If she decides, ala Maya, that she has a greater calling than basketball and leaves the team next month... (sorry. Just for the sake of this conversation) ... she'd still be legendary, just with a completely different script, centered around what might have been. Championships are certainly part of the story, but I dislike such all encompassing statements. EDD was phenomenal, but her Deleware teams never got a ring. Clark likely never will get a ring at Iowa. Both are vastly better than ... one of my favorite UCONN players ever ... Brianna Pulido, who has three trips to the White House. Pick your own criteria, but once locked in, exceptions will surely arise. If Paige played below AA for the rest of her time here, I would still revere what she did as a newbie and how she willed herself back from injury to ... not just play but ... carry the team to the FF on a gimpy leg and being less than game ready. But do not discount her opportunity to continue being stellar and build on her ... legend... with a ring or even a couple. |
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