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Post by bulkey on Sept 18, 2023 15:45:05 GMT -5
58. www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uconn-29013#reviewsandratingsExcept that Princeton, to my mind, is certainly the best university in the country for a kid to go to school (amazing intellectuals doing amazing teaching), a lot of this is a complete crock. I mean, LSU at #185. Really, who'd they pay to get that high a ranking?  |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 18, 2023 16:42:15 GMT -5
Bloomberg. Sorry to say that their WCBB team isn't great either
Vanderbilt University said it found “many flaws” in this year’s US News & World Report college rankings, joining a growing list of schools criticizing the higher education scorecard.
The private research institution in Nashville fell five spots to 18th from 13th, blaming the drop on changes to the magazine’s methodology. Vanderbilt decried the removal of factors like “faculty with the highest degrees attainable in their fields” and “the percentage of entering students who are in the top 10% of their high-school class.” The university said it was evaluating its next steps.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2023 6:06:43 GMT -5
58. www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uconn-29013#reviewsandratingsExcept that Princeton, to my mind, is certainly the best university in the country for a kid to go to school (amazing intellectuals doing amazing teaching), a lot of this is a complete crock. I mean, LSU at #185. Really, who'd they pay to get that high a ranking? The LSU TikTok Program is renowned and it brings in talented vidiots from around the globe. Not to mention the elite MISFIT Program - Mulkey Institute of Sparkly Fashion & International Tailoring - which has no equal? |
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Post by pinotbear on Sept 19, 2023 7:31:36 GMT -5
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Post by UConnChapette on Sept 19, 2023 8:07:35 GMT -5
And eyelash extensions. And long polished fingernails. I don't care about the first one, whatever they want to do. I do care about the second one, as I feel it is a safety hazard to all the players. Poke someone in the eye with some of those long nails, and it may be a tragic, and unnecessary, permanent injury. Sorry, thread drift. Course correcting... UConn provides a solid education. But, most colleges and universities do. Students get out of it what they put into it. Too much emphasis is put on what name is on the degree for non-student athletes who won't be going pro in their chosen sport. It does open doors, though. And my son with a Computer Science degree from Georgia Tech has had more than a few doors open for him as a result of Ma Tech's education. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 19, 2023 8:53:52 GMT -5
And eyelash extensions. And long polished fingernails. I don't care about the first one, whatever they want to do. I do care about the second one, as I feel it is a safety hazard to all the players. Poke someone in the eye with some of those long nails, and it may be a tragic, and unnecessary, permanent injury. Sorry, thread drift. Course correcting... UConn provides a solid education. But, most colleges and universities do. Students get out of it what they put into it. Too much emphasis is put on what name is on the degree for non-student athletes who won't be going pro in their chosen sport. It does open doors, though. And my son with a Computer Science degree from Georgia Tech has had more than a few doors open for him as a result of Ma Tech's education. UConn provides an environment of academic achievement. The faculty are appreciated by the administration and that translates into classroom expectations. As you say, most schools do that. Well, the top (say) 100 or so do. But when you drift down much beyond that, teachers are often just mailing it in and so are students. Every teacher and every student is smart enough to succeed. The real question is the dignity of learning and the confidence to learn. UConn is really a great place for that. |
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Post by semper on Sept 25, 2023 6:47:08 GMT -5
Many times it depends on the subject as to where to attend; the faculty is what matters, if you want serious training, that is. So usually our players aren't looking to be scholars, although some have wanted careers in medicine. I think that is why Brittany Hunter went to Duke, which ironically was not such a good place for her injury. So I think the majors that our students often want, such as sports medicine and communications, etc. (you will know better than I what they are) should be publicized and praised to help with recruiting. Also our student athlete awards, which I remember Maya was always winning. Our kids have been plenty smart, and that too can be praised to help with recruitment.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 25, 2023 8:54:58 GMT -5
Many times it depends on the subject as to where to attend; the faculty is what matters, if you want serious training, that is. So usually our players aren't looking to be scholars, although some have wanted careers in medicine. I think that is why Brittany Hunter went to Duke, which ironically was not such a good place for her injury. So I think the majors that our students often want, such as sports medicine and communications, etc. (you will know better than I what they are) should be publicized and praised to help with recruiting. Also our student athlete awards, which I remember Maya was always winning. Our kids have been plenty smart, and that too can be praised to help with recruitment. Alas, historically, one of the two best programs in sports management is South Carolina. I can't remember the 2nd, but I'm thinking it's U of Massachusetts--somewhere up here (a friend's daughter was headed for a professional career in soccer before blowing out both knees, and he told me her two choices). But another important category would be sports entertainment (TV persona). Unsurprisingly, UCLA and Southern Cal.... |
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Post by swash on Sept 25, 2023 10:00:12 GMT -5
Many times it depends on the subject as to where to attend; the faculty is what matters, if you want serious training, that is. So usually our players aren't looking to be scholars, although some have wanted careers in medicine. I think that is why Brittany Hunter went to Duke, which ironically was not such a good place for her injury. So I think the majors that our students often want, such as sports medicine and communications, etc. (you will know better than I what they are) should be publicized and praised to help with recruiting. Also our student athlete awards, which I remember Maya was always winning. Our kids have been plenty smart, and that too can be praised to help with recruitment. Alas, historically, one of the two best programs in sports management is South Carolina. I can't remember the 2nd, but I'm thinking it's U of Massachusetts--somewhere up here (a friend's daughter was headed for a professional career in soccer before blowing out both knees, and he told me her two choices). But another important category would be sports entertainment (TV persona). Unsurprisingly, UCLA and Southern Cal.... Syracuse is big for sports media, too |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 25, 2023 10:03:56 GMT -5
Alas, historically, one of the two best programs in sports management is South Carolina. I can't remember the 2nd, but I'm thinking it's U of Massachusetts--somewhere up here (a friend's daughter was headed for a professional career in soccer before blowing out both knees, and he told me her two choices). But another important category would be sports entertainment (TV persona). Unsurprisingly, UCLA and Southern Cal.... Syracuse is big for sports media, too Thanks swash! (also of course huge on preparing students for Broadway musicals. Syracuse, NYU, and Michigan are tops for that). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 11:17:51 GMT -5
Alas, historically, one of the two best programs in sports management is South Carolina. I can't remember the 2nd, but I'm thinking it's U of Massachusetts--somewhere up here (a friend's daughter was headed for a professional career in soccer before blowing out both knees, and he told me her two choices). But another important category would be sports entertainment (TV persona). Unsurprisingly, UCLA and Southern Cal.... Syracuse is big for sports media, too Yes, the Newhouse School for Broadcasting is well-known. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 11:19:31 GMT -5
Syracuse is big for sports media, too Thanks swash! (also of course huge on preparing students for Broadway musicals. Syracuse, NYU, and Michigan are tops for that). But nobody, and I mean NOBODY, prepares students for TikTokology like LSU....  ....! |
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Post by aubreyfan on Sept 25, 2023 15:46:54 GMT -5
In all honesty, Uconn is probably about average for a public university, maybe slightly above. There is no comparison between a top 10 school like harvard/ princeton/stanford/MIT and any public university. You could make a case for UCLA/UCSD being top 10 schools. A lot of that depends on the quality of the kids coming in and what they are majoring in. I think any major university can provide an excellent education though as the most important thing is what you put into it. The best thing about the top schools now is that most of them are free.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 25, 2023 16:06:16 GMT -5
In all honesty, Uconn is probably about average for a public university, maybe slightly above. There is no comparison between a top 10 school like harvard/ princeton/stanford/MIT and any public university. You could make a case for UCLA/UCSD being top 10 schools. A lot of that depends on the quality of the kids coming in and what they are majoring in. I think any major university can provide an excellent education though as the most important thing is what you put into it. The best thing about the top schools now is that most of them are free. Ah, I just can't resist. True that the privates can do things that the publics can't possibly do. Way more money, way fewer students to spend that money on. But I've taught at an "elite private" and an "elite public," and I completely agree with you: you can get as good an education at the public. And you can get as good an education at any public if you set your mind to it. But as to ratings, for what they're worth which is not much, careful with a school like UCSD. Some great graduate programs, but the strength of their broader liberal arts programs for undergraduates--while certainly good--doesn't compare to UCLA and Cal. That's just ratings, not real students on the ground. But a huge shout out to UConn. I was privileged to spend time there, doing a very top-down and bottom-up appraisal, and I fully believe that, while overall UCLA, Cal, Michigan and Virginia (historically the top publics for undergraduate eduation) may have a stronger student body, it's entirely possible--even easy--to get just as good an education at UConn. The litmus test is: if you want to study hard, will your friends make fun of you for it? They will at more schools than you can imagine, but not at UConn, unless you have friends on TOB. :-) |
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 16:13:08 GMT -5
In all honesty, Uconn is probably about average for a public university, maybe slightly above. Average for a public university? Not even close. ranked by this report No. 28. That is out of 1600+ public universities. |
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Post by aubreyfan on Sept 25, 2023 19:05:44 GMT -5
OK. I'm wrong on uconn. How is that doggydaddy. Try it once in a while. I didn't go to uconn and I assumed it was about average. I had never heard anything special about it academically. My bad.
The average SAT composite at Uconn is 1315. The average composite SAT at UCSD is 1350. UCSB is 1365. There are at least 4 public universities in California alone with higher average SAT scores than uconn and there may be more as I didn't look further. There is more to college ratings than average GPA and SAT scores but it is in the ballpark.
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 25, 2023 19:55:32 GMT -5
OK. I'm wrong on uconn. How is that doggydaddy. Try it once in a while. I didn't go to uconn and I assumed it was about average. I had never heard anything special about it academically. My bad. The average SAT composite at Uconn is 1315. The average composite SAT at UCSD is 1350. UCSB is 1365. There are at least 4 public universities in California alone with higher average SAT scores than uconn and there may be more as I didn't look further. There is more to college ratings than average GPA and SAT scores but it is in the ballpark. Ok, I’ll try it. You are wrong about UConn. There. Better? No, just looking at SAT’s is not in the ballpark when ranking schools. That’s called cherry-picking. Something you are actually good at. I think I trust the rankings linked in the first post than you, someone who admits he knows nothing about UConn. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 20:05:14 GMT -5
In all honesty, Uconn is probably about average for a public university, maybe slightly above. There is no comparison between a top 10 school like harvard/ princeton/stanford/MIT and any public university. You could make a case for UCLA/UCSD being top 10 schools. A lot of that depends on the quality of the kids coming in and what they are majoring in. I think any major university can provide an excellent education though as the most important thing is what you put into it. The best thing about the top schools now is that most of them are free. Ah, I just can't resist. True that the privates can do things that the publics can't possibly do. Way more money, way fewer students to spend that money on. But I've taught at an "elite private" and an "elite public," and I completely agree with you: you can get as good an education at the public. And you can get as good an education at any public if you set your mind to it. But as to ratings, for what they're worth which is not much, careful with a school like UCSD. Some great graduate programs, but the strength of their broader liberal arts programs for undergraduates--while certainly good--doesn't compare to UCLA and Cal. That's just ratings, not real students on the ground. But a huge shout out to UConn. I was privileged to spend time there, doing a very top-down and bottom-up appraisal, and I fully believe that, while overall UCLA, Cal, Michigan and Virginia (historically the top publics for undergraduate eduation) may have a stronger student body, it's entirely possible--even easy--to get just as good an education at UConn. The litmus test is: if you want to study hard, will your friends make fun of you for it? They will at more schools than you can imagine, but not at UConn, unless you have friends on TOB. :-) I think California has the strongest undergraduate state system by far and is almost as good for grad school. It really depends on your motivation and what you plan to study? UConn is a good school and easily in the top 10 of 'state' schools. I didn't attend or graduate from UConn, but it's a fine school with good academics and good sports as well. |
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Post by aubreyfan on Sept 26, 2023 10:50:14 GMT -5
I try to be nice to you doggydaddy. [Deleted by admin]
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Post by bulkey on Sept 26, 2023 10:59:22 GMT -5
I'm asking aubreyfan and DD to completely back away from engaging personally with each other. Talk about the issue, not the poster. Unlike TOB, we don't enjoy deleting posts, much less suspending folks, which would be a terrible thing to do. You can take this to Pickin' Bones, and no one will care. But not here, please.
So, can we move on to something less controversial, like whether Nika is going to start? (Just kidding).
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Post by vtcwbuff on Sept 26, 2023 11:39:19 GMT -5
OK. I'm wrong on uconn. How is that doggydaddy. Try it once in a while. I didn't go to uconn and I assumed it was about average. I had never heard anything special about it academically. My bad. The average SAT composite at Uconn is 1315. The average composite SAT at UCSD is 1350. UCSB is 1365. There are at least 4 public universities in California alone with higher average SAT scores than uconn and there may be more as I didn't look further. There is more to college ratings than average GPA and SAT scores but it is in the ballpark. Why assume when google is just a few keystrokes away? |
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Post by doggydaddy on Sept 26, 2023 13:29:23 GMT -5
I'm asking aubreyfan and DD to completely back away from engaging personally with each other. Talk about the issue, not the poster. Unlike TOB, we don't enjoy deleting posts, much less suspending folks, which would be a terrible thing to do. You can take this to Pickin' Bones, and no one will care. But not here, please. So, can we move on to something less controversial, like whether Nika is going to start? (Just kidding). Sorry I’m not going to let him besmirch UConn when it’s such a big part of my family. Sister and brother both graduated from there and my daughter has her masters from there. Been following their sports teams for 50+ years. Average when it was clear they are not just like Nika is the 8th best player on the roster. Intentional insulting. Maybe he should think before antagonizing. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 26, 2023 14:27:35 GMT -5
I'm asking aubreyfan and DD to completely back away from engaging personally with each other. Talk about the issue, not the poster. Unlike TOB, we don't enjoy deleting posts, much less suspending folks, which would be a terrible thing to do. You can take this to Pickin' Bones, and no one will care. But not here, please. So, can we move on to something less controversial, like whether Nika is going to start? (Just kidding). Sorry I’m not going to let him besmirch UConn when it’s such a big part of my family. Sister and brother both graduated from there and my daughter has her masters from there. Been following their sports teams for 50+ years. Average when it was clear they are not just like Nika is the 8th best player on the roster. Intentional insulting. Maybe he should think before antagonizing. I've established a thread and said my piece in pickin' bones. I invite those who want to debate UConn's academic rankings to have at it over there. I'm going to move any additional comments of this nature from here to there. I don't believe anyone "besmirched" a university for making an assessment about it. I'm on record as stating that I believe that assessment is incorrect, but it's certainly okay to state one's assessment of an institution. We're here, and not on TOB, because we believe in free speech. Well, sort of. Free speech to make non-personal judgments, that is. Debate the rankings, not the contributor's motives or morals. So, further ad hominem comments get deleted. |
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