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Post by grrrrr on May 17, 2023 9:15:38 GMT -5
Multiple sources (Yahoo Sports, Sports Illustrated and more) are saying that at last week's Big 12 meetings a list of potential expansion candidates were discussed and the list included UCONN. The Big 12 has expressed a desire to expand eastwards as well as westward with the 4 corner Pac 12 schools. It sounds like eastward expansion hinges on what happens with the ACC. It has just come to light this week that 7 ACC schools are trying to figure out a way to get our of their awful tv deal which runs thru 2036. Supposedly with one more school they could vote to dissolve the conference. Thinking is that the Big 12 would take Syracuse, Pitt and BC after the B10 and SEC picked over the carcass. This being driven solely by football which is where the big money is ($20-25 million more per year than what UCONN makes now) but the Big 12 is talking about creating a basketball tv deal separate from football to generate even more income. That's where UCONN comes in. They would take UCONN for all sports but the obvious main selling point would be basketball. This is probably a ways off if the opportunity even arises, and I get the money angle, but man. We just got in the Big East, it feels right, I for one do not care to go into the wilderness again. But, football and $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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Post by rukia on May 17, 2023 9:24:47 GMT -5
I have seen the rumors. I would still like UConn to join the ACC as part of a plan to stabilize the ACC.
I think the Big 12 would be disastrous for UConn. No Oklahoma and no Texas = no big 12 imo. UConn would be joining new teams like Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF. Sounds a lot like the AAC to me.
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Post by UConnChapette on May 17, 2023 9:26:52 GMT -5
This craziness will just never end. Big East feels right for basketball, but obviously not for football. The football team showed some signs of life last year. I am not ready to reup my football season tickets yet, I have to see more than one bowl season.
If the ACC dissolves, that creates a very interesting scramble and the potential of creating an entirely new conference.
UConn moving to Big12 only makes sense if there are other east "coast" schools included. Otherwise, the travel costs become burdensome. Then again, if there is a higher payout tv deal, that kind of negates the travel costs. B12 would not be my first choice.
Just when I thought UConn was settled in a conference for the foreseeable future...
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Post by magic on May 17, 2023 10:46:27 GMT -5
I believe Uconn football is on the rise again. Coaching is everything . This is not the old BE , at least not on the wcbb side. Too much money involved to discount a move , eventually.
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Post by bulkey on May 17, 2023 11:24:56 GMT -5
I believe Uconn football is on the rise again. Coaching is everything . This is not the old BE , at least not on he wcbb side. Too much money involved to discount a move , eventually. I hope you're right. My concern is that NIL is everything these days in football recruiting. I don't know if there's enough alumni/local business support to fund 2 basketball teams and a football team (and a couple of less visible sports, like women's field hockey). |
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Post by dreamseason on May 17, 2023 11:49:41 GMT -5
Absolutely NO to the Big 12. It is the AAC all over again. If the ACC implodes, some schools will go to the Big 12 and, maybe, some will come to the Big East and the Big East would have a FBS conference.
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Post by magic on May 17, 2023 17:22:25 GMT -5
I still find it hard to believe that the ACC will not be able to hold it together. I think Uconn would accept an invite to the ACC in a heart beat.
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Post by linkster on May 17, 2023 20:39:34 GMT -5
I have seen the rumors. I would still like UConn to join the ACC as part of a plan to stabilize the ACC. I think the Big 12 would be disastrous for UConn. No Oklahoma and no Texas = no big 12 imo. UConn would be joining new teams like Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF. Sounds a lot like the AAC to me. I would not like to see UConn leave the BE and go to a football conference where basketball is an after thought. Keep in mind that nothing lasts forever and college football is overdue for a decline in popularity while basketball, especially womens, is on an upswing. One massive scandal and the corporate sponsors who pay for everything will run from football. No advertisers, no TV rights. |
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on May 17, 2023 21:23:03 GMT -5
I don't see the Big 12 as a great prize. Much of the Big 12 coverage of Women's Basketball is streaming (through ESPN). I don't know enough to assess it, but it is an odd media deal. And without Oklahoma and Texas and with a lot of AAC schools, I'm not saying it isn't viable for UConn, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. I would (conversely) not be horrified if my Arizona Wildcats ended up there.
I also have no idea what is so awful about the ACC TV deal??? I admit that I constantly hear the SEC and B1G as the really good deals, but the ACC isn't my PAC, which - unless something happened today - really doesn't have a media deal.
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Post by grrrrr on May 17, 2023 22:19:53 GMT -5
Replacing Nova, Marquette, Creighton, St John's and the rest with Texas Tech or someone like that, just no.
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Post by magic on May 18, 2023 8:20:42 GMT -5
I have seen the rumors. I would still like UConn to join the ACC as part of a plan to stabilize the ACC. I think the Big 12 would be disastrous for UConn. No Oklahoma and no Texas = no big 12 imo. UConn would be joining new teams like Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF. Sounds a lot like the AAC to me. I would not like to see UConn leave the BE and go to a football conference where basketball is an after thought. Keep in mind that nothing lasts forever and college football is overdue for a decline in popularity while basketball, especially womens, is on an upswing. One massive scandal and the corporate sponsors who pay for everything will run from football. No advertisers, no TV rights. I just spent 2 weeks diving in Cozumel. Met people from all over the states. Every conversation in sports was about college football. |
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Post by grrrrr on May 20, 2023 9:04:48 GMT -5
Most of the chatter on the Internet and YouTube around realignment is just hot air, but their are a handful of folks who are pretty reserved and seem knowledgeable with good sources. Evidently some in the Big 12 are not crazy about inviting UCONN. This next part sounds bonkers but the new B12 commissioner, Brett Yormark, thinks outside the box, although this would be off planet stuff. He has ties to NYC and was the CEO of the Nets during the transition to the Barclay's Center and knows how valuable NYC media coverage could be. The plan, invite UCONN as a full member but invite other Big East teams for basketball. Like pick off the cream of the Big East, so in the next tv contract go round, a separate basketball contract could really be worth something. 6 of the last 10 national champions have been either BE or B12 schools, another was runner up (TT) and another (Houston) was ranked #1 for parts of this past season. No idea about the other BE teams Olympic sports which would seem to me a problem. Evidently the Big 12 talks with Gonzaga have broken down over this very topic. However, this is the first Commissioner in any conference to say that their basketball content is good enough to stand on it's own, we don't have to just give it away as part of a football deal. The whole thing sounds implausible but Yormark sounds like the kind of person who could sell ice cubes to Eskimos.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 9:26:57 GMT -5
Most of the chatter on the Internet and YouTube around realignment is just hot air, but their are a handful of folks who are pretty reserved and seem knowledgeable with good sources. Evidently some in the Big 12 are not crazy about inviting UCONN. This next part sounds bonkers but the new B12 commissioner, Brett Yormark, thinks outside the box, although this would be off planet stuff. He has ties to NYC and was the CEO of the Nets during the transition to the Barclay's Center and knows how valuable NYC media coverage could be. The plan, invite UCONN as a full member but invite other Big East teams for basketball. Like pick off the cream of the Big East, so in the next tv contract go round, a separate basketball contract could really be worth something. 6 of the last 10 national champions have been either BE or B12 schools, another was runner up (TT) and another (Houston) was ranked #1 for parts of this past season. No idea about the other BE teams Olympic sports which would seem to me a problem. Evidently the Big 12 talks with Gonzaga have broken down over this very topic. However, this is the first Commissioner in any conference to say that their basketball content is good enough to stand on it's own, we don't have to just give it away as part of a football deal. The whole thing sounds implausible but Yormark sounds like the kind of person who could sell ice cubes to Eskimos. The commissioner was recently in Storrs.................. OH .... False Alarm ..... he was merely checking out the Dairy Bar: dining.uconn.edu/uconn-dairy-bar/ |
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Post by bulkey on May 20, 2023 10:21:54 GMT -5
When Susan Herbst was the president, she tried mightily to get into the Big 12. Of course, back then, UConn's basketball teams were largely in limbo. Now, they've found a natural home.
Like a lot of folks, I'm conflicted. I think that article you posted, Ken, is really good at setting out the problems.
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Post by linkster on May 20, 2023 20:18:22 GMT -5
I would not like to see UConn leave the BE and go to a football conference where basketball is an after thought. Keep in mind that nothing lasts forever and college football is overdue for a decline in popularity while basketball, especially womens, is on an upswing. One massive scandal and the corporate sponsors who pay for everything will run from football. No advertisers, no TV rights. I just spent 2 weeks diving in Cozumel. Met people from all over the states. Every conversation in sports was about college football. I spent a good deal of life around sports fans here in CT and college football is rarely mentioned except as a wagering result as in "USC screwed my 3 team teaser with that missed extra point". But yes, football is king. right now. Back in the 50's starting NFL players needed off-season jobs. Boxing and baseball were kings. Things change. |
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Post by swash on May 21, 2023 17:20:45 GMT -5
When Susan Herbst was the president, she tried mightily to get into the Big 12. Of course, back then, UConn's basketball teams were largely in limbo. Now, they've found a natural home. Like a lot of folks, I'm conflicted. I think that article you posted, Ken, is really good at setting out the problems. The B12 is hanging by a thread. They're at risk of being the conference of perpetual bridesmaids. Unless they shake things up more effectively than just scooping up the big conference leftovers, they're going to have trouble getting the next big TV deals. Their current payouts are nice, but those broadcast contracts were for an entirely different group of schools. Eventually, football will be separate. Basketball conference money will be UCONN'S wheelhouse, and the BE will be relevant. I hope this happens soon enough that Geno carries it through the transition. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 8:08:41 GMT -5
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on May 24, 2023 14:32:45 GMT -5
My computer kicked me out once so I'll be quick - the absence of a PAC media deal is concerning. Expected one (per news commentators) a while ago and it hasn't happened. I'm sure the Big 12 would love some PAC schools, not sure what they have to offer but then again, it would change the playing field.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 7:57:22 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on May 26, 2023 9:48:35 GMT -5
But that geography may prevent UConn from wanting to be courted by the Big 12, as the report highlights how the school celebrated its return to the Big East four years ago, highlighting its identity as an East Coast school, and how it felt out of place in the AAC, a more spread-out conference geographically.
The timing of this reported interest is also noteworthy as it comes following UConn winning the college basketball national championship this past season and returning to prominence on the hard court. The school's women's basketball team is one of the nation's most successful, winning six NCAA championships since 2008 under head coach Geno Auriemma.
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Post by linkster on May 26, 2023 15:37:24 GMT -5
I suspect that any major realignment will come out of the network marketing depts. I remember reading on another site that one reason Louisville got in the ACC was that they agreed to play Thursday night football for ESPN.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2023 8:21:28 GMT -5
Meanwhile ........
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2023 14:11:16 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on Jun 1, 2023 15:17:23 GMT -5
Be careful whom you hate....  |
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Post by UConnChapette on Jun 1, 2023 15:22:07 GMT -5
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