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Post by phil on Jan 27, 2023 16:25:47 GMT -5
Ken my boy, I might just cut and paste this post to my blog tonight. Save me the search and cut and paste exercise. And there are some many other idiotic comments over there. Geno was a little crazed at the half. But imagine how proud they would have been if Harper had done something similar. She would have been called a hero and how great it was that she stuck up for her team. The worst is there take on the Jackson/Edwards double technicals. Several posts say Aaliyah kicked Rickea in the head first. Not first, not last. There was no contact with her head. You guys might have missed one the other day. Someone was arguing the loss of Key and Suarez for TN was the equal to the loss of Bueckers and Fudd. I saw that. IIRC it was Coach Jumper, who fancies himself knowledgeable about basketball. When someone challenged him, he doubled down.
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Post by bulkey on Jan 27, 2023 17:08:33 GMT -5
I also saw a "Dorka is trash" discussion. Some brave soul opposed that, citing all her rankings nationally.
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Post by swash on Jan 27, 2023 17:56:22 GMT -5
Ken my boy, I might just cut and paste this post to my blog tonight. Save me the search and cut and paste exercise. And there are some many other idiotic comments over there. Geno was a little crazed at the half. But imagine how proud they would have been if Harper had done something similar. She would have been called a hero and how great it was that she stuck up for her team. The worst is there take on the Jackson/Edwards double technicals. Several posts say Aaliyah kicked Rickea in the head first. Not first, not last. There was no contact with her head. You guys might have missed one the other day. Someone was arguing the loss of Key and Suarez for TN was the equal to the loss of Bueckers and Fudd. That's hilarious.
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Post by swash on Jan 27, 2023 17:58:22 GMT -5
Aaliyah was face down. She got plastered as she tried to get up and tried again. There was no foul intentional or otherwise from her. Lie on the floor and suddenly try to get up. As you try to bring your knees up, they must necessarily bend. Since Jackson was continuing to hold her down at and above her knee, that foot rose into the air ... not making contact with Jackson at all. Physics will do that. Even people who train in self defense for years would not be likely to think of making a kick like that in such a circumstance. Finally, if this were a kick intending to make contact ... remember this is a fine athlete known for her blend of strength and speed ... let me simply say that if that were the intent, the characteristics would be entirely different... the foot wouldn't be loose and floppy. The speed would have been greater. The motion would not have stopped at 90 degrees. And most importantly, if intended, I submit Aaliyah would have succeeded in making forceful contact. Now. Review that clip again ... The defense rests. What a poster said on the OI board (orange idiot): Cora Hall just retweeted a series of pictures of Edwards absolutely doing the dirty on the Rickea takedown. Said that's what she thought she saw live, but pics confirm and according to Hall, look really bad on Edwards. Basically grabbed around waist with both hands, flipped over, intentionally locked legs around and kicked RJ in the head when she tried to get out of the leglock.
And initially, they called this foul on Rickea! Take a look at those pics. Cora Hall calling out Edwards as dirty. Also cc to Lobo, who owes RJ an apology, as if.
Please, let's review the evidence.
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Post by rukia on Jan 27, 2023 18:17:24 GMT -5
I also saw a "Dorka is trash" discussion. Some brave soul opposed that, citing all her rankings nationally. I saw that one. And apparently Dorka rates really high in several statistical categories. Doggy pointed out that UConn hasn’t lost when she has played. Do I think Dorka was great last night? Not particularly. But she was solid. And she was mostly better than everyone in a Vols uniform.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 19:08:55 GMT -5
Here's the updated and mostly cited Lady Vol Nation complaints about their coach:
Nearly all below are from the Kellie Harper Thread-
PerryCountyVol post# 1876: I believe this may have put the nail in Kellie's coffin.
Nute Gunray post# 1906: Kellie needs to return to coaching at schools like Western Carolina and Missouri State where she had a reasonable amount of success. She is over her coaching ability at P5 school like NC State and UT. UT needs to find the best head coach available, man or woman.
floridavol25 post# 1903: Ya she needs to go, they hired her as a safe under the radar attempt at a cheap fix, they need to get a splash hire and get away from the summit tree .. the name brand of the program still can win easy just need the right coach and Harper isn’t the answer
Majors post# 1902: Is it disappointing or expected? She’s been a D1 coach for 20 years but gets treated as if she needs more time to prove she can win. In 20 years of you haven’t won, that’s expected not disappointing.
Majors post# 1900: 17 point loss on national audience doesn’t get your contract extended either. Benchmark game on where you stack in year four didn’t produce a positive result.
casetopia post# 1883: Ugh I'm about ready for change at the top. She never makes adjustments or tries anything new. It's the definition of insanity.
utCREW post# 1884: Fire her AND the wimps she’s recruited.
Antiochvol81 post# 1885: Not a good look for her there was a big chance for recruiting to make a splash and it was a big fat egg..
utkCREW post# 1889: Next season will be hilarious. We will fo sho be sub .500
Time to get away for the Summit coaching tree. Tried 2 both can't coach a lick. With Horston and Jackson gone after this year we are really going to be in trouble.
Kara has Duke ranked in year 2. Kellie has us unranked in year 4.
Erichberry fan (this member appears to have been banned by the mods, but I found this when someone replied to one of his/her recent posts?): I love our coach as a person but I'm sorry, I think it's time for a change. No reason to have this much talent and play the way we do. Imagine if Uconns 4 starters weren't out today. Shesh
UConn with their full roster beats us by 30-40 points. I’m not excited for Baton Rouge at all.
I don't even follow the girls team like I used to because it's been nothing but a pathetic showing anymore, but I will watch everytime it's on TV or a big game.
Would yall who follow closely say Kelly is on the hot seat? I really hope so and I hate saying that because she's a good person but this is embarrassing
Adval post# 1847: UT needs to engage the Coaching Transfer Portal.................
DarkPhoenix post #2006: We just don’t have a coach that can get us those number 1 players that are game changers.
SGMVols post#1859: Kara has Duke ranked in year 2. Kellie has us unranked in year 4.
vol94 post# 1864: I don’t watch every game but follow the results and read the stats. The Lady Vol program hasn’t been the same for over ten yrs. Idk if it’s the lack of talent or coaching but this team looks out of synch and makes way too many turnovers.
From the Game Thread:
SGMvols post# 1050: We lost by 17 at home to their B team and we’ve got people claiming a moral victory. Jeez this program has cratered.
Advol post# 1114: Bla Bla Bla......same O same O NO recruiting Out of shape and Poor Coaching!!
Just more of the same!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There's plenty more @ LVN and many more posts added daily. They really love their coach?
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Post by bulkey on Jan 27, 2023 19:40:44 GMT -5
I'm ambivalent about all this Harper trashing. Like I was about Herm Edwards coaching the Jets. As bad as he was, as a Pats fan, I didn't want him fired.
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Post by rukia on Jan 27, 2023 20:03:30 GMT -5
Duke is a good contrast. Lawson does appear to be doing a great job there.
And I admit. When it does come time to replace Geno long term; UConn shouldn’t be looking to the past. They shouldn’t be obsessed with candidates having UConn dna. Manchester United made that mistake too. Hire someone elite with a fresh vision for the program.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 22:32:14 GMT -5
I'm ambivalent about all this Harper trashing. Like I was about Herm Edwards coaching the Jets. As bad as he was, as a Pats fan, I didn't want him fired. Tennessee has women's basketball on one of their back burners with football and men's basketball their priorities. I don't think anything will happen for at least another season at the very least. If Coach Harper had scheduled like LSU, she'd be a hero with only 1 loss to UConn. Mulkey is a world class stats gamer and all around scammer. Yet, Tennessee may well lose on Monday at the LSU full house?
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Post by swash on Jan 27, 2023 22:37:35 GMT -5
Duke is a good contrast. Lawson does appear to be doing a great job there. And I admit. When it does come time to replace Geno long term; UConn shouldn’t be looking to the past. They shouldn’t be obsessed with candidates having UConn dna. Manchester United made that mistake too. Hire someone elite with a fresh vision for the program. I keep hearing thoughts like this ... get someone new.... but coaching is not easy. It isn't something easily picked up, either. There are a zillion people who call themselves a basketball coach. But look at all those bottom of D1-D3 schools. How come so few of that maybe 1000 schools have a good coach? Because the vast majority of them stink. The great ones at that level soon get offered better jobs. But many fail there where expectations are higher and pressures greater. A handful win there and get a shot at a good mid-major... until hired away by a middling P5.... where all but a couple fail. Meanwhile, hundreds of outstanding players get a jumpstart somewhere ... and the overwhelming majority fail. So, programs with money grind through the best of who is left. If they get a winning lottery ticket, they hang onto that one. But, how many current coaches in all of D1 would you say are better than "not bad"? A slim few. Geno is fantastic. More than a rarity, he's the GOAT. Where do you even start? Odds are best among elite programs, but even those are less than one or two in a hundred. And the good ones are usually happy where they are. Tara isn't available and will retire soon. Dawn has it pretty good, but may be offered an NBA HC position. So, maybe take a flyer on a longshot with promise, but you are much more likely to get coach jumper than Jeff Waltz. So now where does an elite program like TN a few years back,or UCONN or Stanford even look? Rest assured if there were a can't miss prospect, there are several schools ready and willing to spend big. College football has a bunch of $10million per year coaches. How many are worth it? And I haven't even mentioned abusive or twisted or jail-worthy. So, you go to someone most like the one you had... someone who thrived under her/his leadership and who shares those values ... most of those are current or former assistant coaches or players. At least they have some credibility with recruits, their families, and the fanbase.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 28, 2023 0:35:42 GMT -5
They should hire coach jumper. All their problems with be solved.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 9:22:01 GMT -5
They should hire coach jumper. All their problems with be solved. He's the Motel 6 of coaches....
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Post by pinotbear on Jan 28, 2023 10:14:19 GMT -5
They should hire coach jumper. All their problems with be solved. He's the Motel 6 of coaches.... He'll turn his light on, for ya... I practically snorted my coffee on that one, Ken!
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Post by phil on Jan 28, 2023 10:26:39 GMT -5
I also saw a "Dorka is trash" discussion. Some brave soul opposed that, citing all her rankings nationally. Hey I love to trash the nonsense as much as anyone, but please note I think that post came from utkCREW. Why does that matter? While I often get tired of people trashing some other poster as a troll — 90% of the time it means they brought up an inconvenient fact, I started to wonder if this poster was a troll. Less than an hour later, that contributor posted that they were a troll.
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Post by phil on Jan 28, 2023 10:28:48 GMT -5
They should hire coach jumper. All their problems with be solved. He's the Motel 6 of coaches.... Wow funny (but an insult to Motel 6)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 10:43:31 GMT -5
He's the Motel 6 of coaches.... Wow funny (but an insult to Motel 6) Even Tennessee left the light off for him.....
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Post by dreamseason on Jan 29, 2023 0:35:53 GMT -5
Maybe I am mistaken but isn't TN doing much better with Harper than the last coach? They better be careful what they wish for.
As for us, we had better be thinking of the post-Geno era. Would Kara leave Duke for UConn? Probably not. But I would go after her for sure. As for our coaching tree, I would take Carla over Shea right now. But let's see what Shea can do over the next couple of years. My #1 choice would be...I know this is crazy...Brad Stevens. That of course assumes he wants to coach again and he is willing to coach women and he is willing to move to Storrs and we can afford him. Lots of ifs there. But I think he would be a phenomenal women's coach.
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Post by rukia on Jan 29, 2023 0:37:31 GMT -5
I do think men's college basketball coaches and even nba coaches should be a part of the coaching search. Becky Hammon should be considered. Cast a wide net. This is a great job!
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Post by dreamseason on Jan 29, 2023 9:46:57 GMT -5
I do think men's college basketball coaches and even nba coaches should be a part of the coaching search. Becky Hammon should be considered. Cast a wide net. This is a great job! Possibly. She has studied under some if the best. But she is high risk high reward because she hasn't been a college head coach.
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