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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 27, 2023 10:27:36 GMT -5
Much as I hate to do it, I am unpinning this game thread. We have a game on Sunday with Villanova. I need to put up the new game thread.
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Post by swash on Jan 27, 2023 11:02:30 GMT -5
He's probably golfing buddies with Charlie Baker. Maybe Geno'll just give him a mulligan. The BE commish isn't going to get involved with refs hired by an SEC team. Geno made his point. The refs changed the way they were calling the game for the benefit of Tenn. Then they made a few bad calls against Tenn later in the game to "even things out". This isn't the first "big game"* taken over by refs. Dee what's-her-name used to do it all the time. * big game as far as the media attention given it. Yeah. Meant NCAA. One of the refs ... Joe (Mazzilli??) Does a lot of UCONN games. I think he often benefits the away team in close calls. He also gets caught up in the emotions of a comeback or an upset in the making. That's why he seems anti UCONN, because we usually have more fans there even at neutral sites, and are often the team ahead and are often the favourites.
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Post by swash on Jan 27, 2023 11:32:15 GMT -5
The BE commish isn't going to get involved with refs hired by an SEC team. Geno made his point. The refs changed the way they were calling the game for the benefit of Tenn. Then they made a few bad calls against Tenn later in the game to "even things out". This isn't the first "big game"* taken over by refs. Dee what's-her-name used to do it all the time. * big game as far as the media attention given it. I rarely if ever blame refs, having been a failed one myself. But these folks were astonishingly bad. Some of the worst calls I've ever seen. I accept a bad play, even a terrible quarter from the team. Don't like those, but I recognize that the world works this way when humans are involved. I try to extend that grace to referees, too. The things that are unacceptable happen when there is bias or inconstancy. Those frustrations are directed toward the refs themselves. Incompetence is also unacceptable, but I place that blame on the conference or whomever assigned those resources.
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Post by bulkey on Jan 27, 2023 11:47:27 GMT -5
The refs reviewed this and gave fouls to both players. I can well understand blowing the call in real time, but here is the video they reviewed
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Post by grrrrr on Jan 27, 2023 11:55:10 GMT -5
No way AE deserved a foul, no way.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 27, 2023 11:58:47 GMT -5
Their arms were tangled up which caused the initial "take down". That could have been a foul call on Aaliyah, or Rickea. Hard to tell if either one made an effort to untangle. Then Aaliyah was trying to get back up, and to do so had to get her legs free. Apparently Rickea took offense and thought Aaliyah was trying to kick her (which is, by the way, the way the LV fans interpret it - trying to kick their player). But, I think the refs were in a no win situation there so called the double tech and then just allowed the teams to play on.
Aaliyah has had players beat up on her all year. I am okay with her getting physical and refusing to back down. In this case it did not hurt us. But Jackson has shown to have a nasty attitude (going to the locker room instead of the handshake line after two losses). So I am inclined to believe she was the aggressor more so than Aaliyah.
In any case, there was no injury and UConn went on to win. No harm, two fouls, all is good.
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Post by bulkey on Jan 27, 2023 12:29:34 GMT -5
Their arms were tangled up which caused the initial "take down". That could have been a foul call on Aaliyah, or Rickea. Hard to tell if either one made an effort to untangle. Then Aaliyah was trying to get back up, and to do so had to get her legs free. Apparently Rickea took offense and thought Aaliyah was trying to kick her (which is, by the way, the way the LV fans interpret it - trying to kick their player). But, I think the refs were in a no win situation there so called the double tech and then just allowed the teams to play on. Aaliyah has had players beat up on her all year. I am okay with her getting physical and refusing to back down. In this case it did not hurt us. But Jackson has shown to have a nasty attitude (going to the locker room instead of the handshake line after two losses). So I am inclined to believe she was the aggressor more so than Aaliyah. In any case, there was no injury and UConn went on to win. No harm, two fouls, all is good. That's what I saw, too, in one of the angles. Hooked arms. Maybe initiated by Aaliyah, maybe not. But that's part of post play. Sometimes a foul, sometimes not. The rest, however, to my mind is discernible. Whatever Rickea thought happened to her, there is absolutely no doubt what she did. She attacked Aaliyah. Refs can't exculpate Rickea because of what she might have thought Aaliyah's intentions were.
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Post by samanthabrown3 on Jan 27, 2023 12:38:08 GMT -5
Their arms were tangled up which caused the initial "take down". That could have been a foul call on Aaliyah, or Rickea. Hard to tell if either one made an effort to untangle. Then Aaliyah was trying to get back up, and to do so had to get her legs free. Apparently Rickea took offense and thought Aaliyah was trying to kick her (which is, by the way, the way the LV fans interpret it - trying to kick their player). But, I think the refs were in a no win situation there so called the double tech and then just allowed the teams to play on. Aaliyah has had players beat up on her all year. I am okay with her getting physical and refusing to back down. In this case it did not hurt us. But Jackson has shown to have a nasty attitude (going to the locker room instead of the handshake line after two losses). So I am inclined to believe she was the aggressor more so than Aaliyah. In any case, there was no injury and UConn went on to win. No harm, two fouls, all is good. That's what I saw, too, in one of the angles. Hooked arms. Maybe initiated by Aaliyah, maybe not. But that's part of post play. Sometimes a foul, sometimes not. The rest, however, to my mind is discernible. Whatever Rickea thought happened to her, there is absolutely no doubt what she did. She attacked Aaliyah. Refs can't exculpate Rickea because of what she might have thought Aaliyah's intentions were. It looked as though both were going for the ball first. Tangled arms and legs were incidental. The push from Rickea was not. But offsetting fouls was probably a good call.
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Post by linkster on Jan 27, 2023 13:30:40 GMT -5
The BE commish isn't going to get involved with refs hired by an SEC team. Geno made his point. The refs changed the way they were calling the game for the benefit of Tenn. Then they made a few bad calls against Tenn later in the game to "even things out". This isn't the first "big game"* taken over by refs. Dee what's-her-name used to do it all the time. * big game as far as the media attention given it. Yeah. Meant NCAA. One of the refs ... Joe (Mazzilli??) Does a lot of UCONN games. I think he often benefits the away team in close calls. He also gets caught up in the emotions of a comeback or an upset in the making. That's why he seems anti UCONN, because we usually have more fans there even at neutral sites, and are often the team ahead and are often the favourites. Joe has a habit of trying to even out lopsided scores by looking for things to call on the dominant team, often things that were not called earlier in the game. I've seen this in UConn games where all 50/50 calls go the way of the losing team and he ignores all their little fouls. Letting little things go usually leads to the losing team to start committing harder and harder fouls with UConn players going to the floor.
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Post by swash on Jan 27, 2023 13:34:04 GMT -5
The refs reviewed this and gave fouls to both players. I can well understand blowing the call in real time, but here is the video they reviewed I suspect it went like this... both players getting physical, game getting a bit chippy, call the double T to settle everyone down. Remember, this is live. Not entirely fair, but reasonable. Now we're pretty sure that at least one has crossed a line, so we call for a review. If nothing else, give everyone time to settle down and let coaches restore order with their players. Makes sense. Upon review ... Can't un-call the double T. That will just get everyone fired up. Having reviewed the video, Jackson clearly deserves an intentional call. But calling only that gives UCONN points and the ball, and undoes the work of calming things down. So which is worse, ignoring an obvious flagrant foul or forcing Aaliyah to also take a flagrant? She's getting a foul anyway, and there's no greater penalty for intentional fouls vs a common foul for her either way. By keeping the two calls even, neither gets shots or posession they didn't already earn. It's going to be UCONN's ball... so no harm to the player and less likely to get accused of bias... Finally, plan for a makeup call against TN (which happened right away) to give the deserved free-throws back. Double intentional. It's wrong, but at least I can understand that there may have been some reasonable justification for the call.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jan 27, 2023 13:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 27, 2023 15:51:09 GMT -5
Yes. Nika has three, very small tattoos that are not covered. One above each elbow and one on her neck. I suspect Geno and CD do not require them to be covered because 1) they are so small and 2) are very neutral words, and not images. I thought one said "Love" and the one on her neck is an "H", presumably for her sister Hannah.
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Post by rukia on Jan 27, 2023 18:23:12 GMT -5
Keep wearing the black unis. They make us look cool. We got a recruit commit one day after this game. Probably a coincidence. But looking cool last night may have helped. 😉
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