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Post by bulkey on Jan 21, 2023 23:47:35 GMT -5
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Post by grrrrr on Jan 22, 2023 8:04:28 GMT -5
It is not worth her sacrificing a years eligibility to play this season, unless she is so dominant in practice that she forces Geno to play her significant minutes. I would think that would be next to impossible considering how far she is going to be behind the other players as far as knowing the system, strength and conditioning. If she joins the team for practice only she will be burning up her entire redshirt year for a couple of months of practice. Hopefully, if that's what happens she won't need it later. It does look like she has skills that are pretty rare for a 6'4" player, the 23 class is something.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 22, 2023 8:11:00 GMT -5
Jana coming in early has given me new energy and optimism for the remainder of the season. I know she may not play a second this season. But having another body in practice will give another big for the other players to practice against. That can only help for stretch run and tournaments.
BTW - I just checked and she is not yet listed on the roster. Not sure if that means she will not play or if, being the weekend, the web master has not had time to update it.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 22, 2023 8:13:42 GMT -5
It is not worth her sacrificing a years eligibility to play this season, unless she is so dominant in practice that she forces Geno to play her significant minutes. I would think that would be next to impossible considering how far she is going to be behind the other players as far as knowing the system, strength and conditioning. If she joins the team for practice only she will be burning up her entire redshirt year for a couple of months of practice. Hopefully, if that's what happens she won't need it later. It does look like she has skills that are pretty rare for a 6'4" player, the 23 class is something. Redshirt players can practice with the team and not lose a year of eligibility, as I understand it. The only way she would sacrifice a year of eligibility is if she actually plays in games.
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Post by bulkey on Jan 22, 2023 8:42:56 GMT -5
It is not worth her sacrificing a years eligibility to play this season, unless she is so dominant in practice that she forces Geno to play her significant minutes. I would think that would be next to impossible considering how far she is going to be behind the other players as far as knowing the system, strength and conditioning. If she joins the team for practice only she will be burning up her entire redshirt year for a couple of months of practice. Hopefully, if that's what happens she won't need it later. It does look like she has skills that are pretty rare for a 6'4" player, the 23 class is something. Redshirt players can practice with the team and not lose a year of eligibility, as I understand it. The only way she would sacrifice a year of eligibility is if she actually plays in games. I think this is grrrr's main point. I don't know whether you only get 1 redshirt year and whether, by practicing but not playing, the next 3 months would be considered red shirting. Maybe that's the very definition of red shirting?
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Post by grrrrr on Jan 22, 2023 9:03:04 GMT -5
Redshirt players can practice with the team and not lose a year of eligibility, as I understand it. The only way she would sacrifice a year of eligibility is if she actually plays in games. I think this is grrrr's main point. I don't know whether you only get 1 redshirt year and whether, by practicing but not playing, the next 3 months would be considered red shirting. Maybe that's the very definition of red shirting? Forget which, but according to the Courant or the Post, if she joins the team for practice and doesn't play she'll burn her redshirt year. If that's what happens she'll still have 4 years to play, but if she's injured in subsequent years and has to sit out a season it will count against her eligibility wise since the redshirt year will have already been used up. Their is some sort of exception for injuries where you can gain an extra year but I don't know how that works.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 9:38:32 GMT -5
Jana coming in early has given me new energy and optimism for the remainder of the season. I know she may not play a second this season. But having another body in practice will give another big for the other players to practice against. That can only help for stretch run and tournaments. BTW - I just checked and she is not yet listed on the roster. Not sure if that means she will not play or if, being the weekend, the web master has not had time to update it. I think it'll also give a needed jolt of energy and hope to a team which really hasn't caught a break for nearly 3 years!
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Post by swash on Jan 22, 2023 9:41:05 GMT -5
It is not worth her sacrificing a years eligibility to play this season, unless she is so dominant in practice that she forces Geno to play her significant minutes. I would think that would be next to impossible considering how far she is going to be behind the other players as far as knowing the system, strength and conditioning. If she joins the team for practice only she will be burning up her entire redshirt year for a couple of months of practice. Hopefully, if that's what happens she won't need it later. It does look like she has skills that are pretty rare for a 6'4" player, the 23 class is something. Most players need never worry about running out of redshirt time. That gets extended all the time, example is grandma Patberg who first signed a ND LOI in 1975 and played until last season. The only time I can ever remember a denial was a football kid, who redshirted and the sophomore starter ahead of him was really good, so he asked for an extension. Granted... But denied the following year, which would have been his third consecutive red shirt with no injuries
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Post by swash on Jan 22, 2023 9:46:11 GMT -5
It is not worth her sacrificing a years eligibility to play this season, unless she is so dominant in practice that she forces Geno to play her significant minutes. I would think that would be next to impossible considering how far she is going to be behind the other players as far as knowing the system, strength and conditioning. If she joins the team for practice only she will be burning up her entire redshirt year for a couple of months of practice. Hopefully, if that's what happens she won't need it later. It does look like she has skills that are pretty rare for a 6'4" player, the 23 class is something. Also, she and the coaches will make those decisions. She may prefer a 3.5 year plan before going pro, anyway. We will see. The team needs another body. If she's able to at least hold her own and wants to play now, Geno may agree. If all she wants is a headstart on next season, then that's what will happen
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 22, 2023 10:17:23 GMT -5
I cannot find the actual NCAA rules, but on a number of sites I have found the following:
For an athlete to receive a standard redshirt, the NCAA requires that player not be involved in any competition for the year he is redshirted. Any amount of competition time, even 1 minute on a basketball court during a regular season game, for example, counts as a season of eligibility.
Redshirted athletes are allowed to travel, practice and even dress for competition for their team during their redshirt season, but the minute they step on the playing field, they lose their redshirt status and use a season of eligibility.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 10:29:40 GMT -5
I cannot find the actual NCAA rules, but on a number of sites I have found the following: For an athlete to receive a standard redshirt, the NCAA requires that player not be involved in any competition for the year he is redshirted. Any amount of competition time, even 1 minute on a basketball court during a regular season game, for example, counts as a season of eligibility. Redshirted athletes are allowed to travel, practice and even dress for competition for their team during their redshirt season, but the minute they step on the playing field, they lose their redshirt status and use a season of eligibility. www.sportsrec.com/college-basketball-redshirting-rules-6716421.htmlThis has NOT happened yet, but there are many who want to see the NCAA lighten up a bit: www.si.com/college/tmg/mark-blaudschun/college-basketball-redshirt
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Post by bulkey on Jan 22, 2023 11:01:00 GMT -5
Interesting. What swash had said about a red shirter not traveling on the team's dime is what I remember as well. But I guess that's not so anymore (if ever).
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jan 22, 2023 11:07:58 GMT -5
See, SEMPER; I told you Geno would be giving us chocolate and cookies soon. I had no idea it would be this soon though? We're gonna find out just how good she is real soon! Now we understand why Geno was dancing the game today. I am not in favor of her playing this season and with the semester having already begun she may not be eligible.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 22, 2023 11:09:57 GMT -5
Interesting. What swash had said about a red shirter not traveling on the team's dime is what I remember as well. But I guess that's not so anymore (if ever). It doesn’t make sense if a redshirt player can suit up for games and be on the bench why they would not be able to travel. Our medical redshirts Paige and ice travel with the team. A redshirt is a redshirt as far as I am concerned. Then again, that is using common sense and I think we can all agree common sense is not the NCAA’s strong suit.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Jan 22, 2023 11:16:34 GMT -5
I think this is grrrr's main point. I don't know whether you only get 1 redshirt year and whether, by practicing but not playing, the next 3 months would be considered red shirting. Maybe that's the very definition of red shirting? Forget which, but according to the Courant or the Post, if she joins the team for practice and doesn't play she'll burn her redshirt year. If that's what happens she'll still have 4 years to play, but if she's injured in subsequent years and has to sit out a season it will count against her eligibility wise since the redshirt year will have already been used up. Their is some sort of exception for injuries where you can gain an extra year but I don't know how that works. This exception only applies to ACC aand SEC athletes.
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Post by swash on Jan 22, 2023 11:20:11 GMT -5
Interesting. What swash had said about a red shirter not traveling on the team's dime is what I remember as well. But I guess that's not so anymore (if ever). My recollection is that Azure was forced to pay her own way to the FF in her redshirt season after transferring. Natalie Butler, too. But Paige and Ice have traveled with the team. Maybe rules were different by circumstance or perhaps I am mis-remembering
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Post by magic on Jan 22, 2023 11:30:44 GMT -5
Who knows, but she may be more polished than Amari at this stage. If she fits right in, and she can help, I say why not play ? Why worry about a half season down the road 4 years with the volatility of the portal these days. That's why they pay Geno the big bucks.
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Post by samanthabrown3 on Jan 22, 2023 18:14:19 GMT -5
I wonder if part of the reason for her being here is to make sure we’ve always got seven scholarship players. The way our luck has been going…
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Jan 22, 2023 19:52:38 GMT -5
Interesting. What swash had said about a red shirter not traveling on the team's dime is what I remember as well. But I guess that's not so anymore (if ever). It doesn’t make sense if a redshirt player can suit up for games and be on the bench why they would not be able to travel. Our medical redshirts Paige and ice travel with the team. A redshirt is a redshirt as far as I am concerned. Then again, that is using common sense and I think we can all agree common sense is not the NCAA’s strong suit. That used to be true, regarding injured players and such. I don't believe it applies anymore, and the early enrollees at Rutgers and Arizona are traveling with the team (they do not dress, never mind play). The rules are slowly changing to be more sensible, largely because it will be the end of the NCAA if they don't.
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Post by linkster on Jan 22, 2023 20:37:14 GMT -5
I suspect that Jana will leave whenever she earns her degree. Four years far away from home is forever for someone her age.
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Post by BJ42 on Jan 22, 2023 22:53:37 GMT -5
Interesting. What swash had said about a red shirter not traveling on the team's dime is what I remember as well. But I guess that's not so anymore (if ever). My recollection is that Azure was forced to pay her own way to the FF in her redshirt season after transferring. Natalie Butler, too. But Paige and Ice have traveled with the team. Maybe rules were different by circumstance or perhaps I am mis-remembering The difference is that as transfers, Stevens and Butler were not eligible to be on the roster as active players thus not able to travel. Bueckers and Brady are on the roster, they're just not playing. El Alfy will be eligible to be on the roster and if she plays remains to be seen. No play means no eligibility used. She will still have 4 years to use her 4 years of playing eligibility. One game played means one year used.
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Post by chicagogg on Jan 23, 2023 8:58:59 GMT -5
She can't practice or play until she registers for classes. End date for that is January 30, even tho classes have already started for this semester.
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Post by UConnChapette on Jan 23, 2023 9:13:39 GMT -5
She can't practice or play until she registers for classes. End date for that is January 30, even tho classes have already started for this semester. I imagine this is today's agenda for her, assuming she is here. I imagine NCAA must declare her eligible as well.
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Post by meyers7 on Jan 23, 2023 10:02:31 GMT -5
Well, welcome Ms El-Alfy. We can figure out later if you can/will play or not. Nice crappy, sloppy, wintry, ugly day to come to Connecticut. She might turn around and head back to Egypt.
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Post by sewingcybermom on Jan 23, 2023 10:41:27 GMT -5
She can't practice or play until she registers for classes. End date for that is January 30, even tho classes have already started for this semester. I imagine this is today's agenda for her, assuming she is here. I imagine NCAA must declare her eligible as well. And that may have already been done, as it can be taken care of on line pretty easily. We know absolutely nothing, just as Geno wants it. All the discussion about playing, using a year...its all futile. Other teams have done it, and the players are on the court. Speculation, rumors and endless conversations about it only get people all spicy. We'll find out soon enough
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