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Post by bulkey on Sept 28, 2022 20:30:02 GMT -5
this is at least the second WCBB team to do something similar. All the top teams will have to do something similar. As it spreads to other men and women's sports teams, there may well be financial pressure on some universities that already run athletic department deficits (ahem...). As donors step up to support players' NIL, that'll be somewhat the money that would have otherwise gone to fund general athletic expenses (uniforms, travel, salaries, etc). This could become a real problem for schools like (say) UConn and a real advantage for schools like (say) Texas.
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Post by rukia on Sept 28, 2022 22:47:40 GMT -5
Texas Tech is doing it.
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Post by rukia on Sept 28, 2022 22:49:17 GMT -5
Tech is very serious. All 100+ members of the football team get a 25k NIL deal.
And now the softball team get at least $10k also.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 28, 2022 23:15:21 GMT -5
Tech is very serious. All 100+ members of the football team get a 25k NIL deal. And now the softball team get at least $10k also. When an entire team is NILed, the effect is that lesser players are less inclined to transfer. So these teams have a lock on their 3 and 4 star players who might otherwise have left. That concentrates talent in the hands of a few. And it means that in sports like football, the third-stringer is a pretty good replacement for injuries to the 1st and 2nd person at that position. |
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Post by linkster on Sept 28, 2022 23:17:24 GMT -5
That $25K mentioned for SCar athletes is a "target", not a guarantee.
And if the money is coming from boosters the school is risking having entire seasons deleted from the record books along with post-season bans. The NCAA would love to catch a school cutting corners like that. It would allow them to take the moral high ground, a role they love.
UConn has new employees to advise athletes about the compliance of NIL deals. They don't broker the deals, they review deals that athletes get and advise. Corporations created by booster groups to actually pay athletes are ticking time bombs.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 28, 2022 23:32:47 GMT -5
That $25K mentioned for SCar athletes is a "target", not a guarantee. And if the money is coming from boosters the school is risking having entire seasons deleted from the record books along with post-season bans. The NCAA would love to catch a school cutting corners like that. It would allow them to take the moral high ground, a role they love. UConn has new employees to advise athletes about the compliance of NIL deals. They don't broker the deals, they review deals that athletes get and advise. Corporations created by booster groups to actually pay athletes are ticking time bombs. It's a grey area around boosters. Boosters stepped up and guaranteed portalling male and female basketball players a certain minimum NIL employment (including doing ads for a car dealership, IIRC) if they decided on the U. of Miami. I don't know how South Carolina is writing its rules. But I'd imagine they'd have run it by their compliance dept first. What UConn is doing is helping individual athletes become successful. If a student wanted to publish a book, that student would likely find help at their university to assist them. So, I see what UConn is doing as something akin. What other schools might be experimenting with is a broader sense of team support. This has the effect I noted above, of keeping happy and in place athletes who might otherwise have transferred. If it works efficiently, it could help create stability in a program at the expense of less affluent programs. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 29, 2022 0:29:25 GMT -5
The deal with the reigning NCAA champions is funded by South Carolina attorney and former state representative Bakari Sellers, as well as "a group of other prominent alumni" according to a release from NOCAP Sports. The total value for all 13 members of the women's basketball roster is approximately $325,000.“The South Carolina community and alumni network are proud to support the reigning national champs as they continue to build the best program in the country,” Sellers said in the release. “NIL has created an awesome opportunity for these athletes to earn what they have always deserved, and we are excited to continue to support this team for years to come.”
Per the release, each member of the team will be responsible for deliverables that include community appearances, social media engagement and sponsored interviews. The deal also includes a team-wide partnership with Slate Milk, a high-protein health drink company. Its is believed to be the first NIL deal that combines both a university collective and a national brand.www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/usc/2022/09/28/south-carolina-womens-basketball-nil-deal-gives-players-25000-each/69524279007/Sounds like a sweetheart deal where everything is pretty much guaranteed. UConn WCBB players show up for the charity golf game and get nothing but smiles and satisfaction. South Carolina players will get paid nicely. Bakari Sellers, BTW, is a surprisingly interesting guy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakari_Sellers
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 9:44:27 GMT -5
That $25K mentioned for SCar athletes is a "target", not a guarantee. And if the money is coming from boosters the school is risking having entire seasons deleted from the record books along with post-season bans. The NCAA would love to catch a school cutting corners like that. It would allow them to take the moral high ground, a role they love. UConn has new employees to advise athletes about the compliance of NIL deals. They don't broker the deals, they review deals that athletes get and advise. Corporations created by booster groups to actually pay athletes are ticking time bombs. It's a grey area around boosters. Boosters stepped up and guaranteed portalling male and female basketball players a certain minimum NIL employment (including doing ads for a car dealership, IIRC) if they decided on the U. of Miami. I don't know how South Carolina is writing its rules. But I'd imagine they'd have run it by their compliance dept first. What UConn is doing is helping individual athletes become successful. If a student wanted to publish a book, that student would likely find help at their university to assist them. So, I see what UConn is doing as something akin. What other schools might be experimenting with is a broader sense of team support. This has the effect I noted above, of keeping happy and in place athletes who might otherwise have transferred. If it works efficiently, it could help create stability in a program at the expense of less affluent programs. This will help to keep bench and role players more connected to the team and, as you've so effectively stated, to remain far away from the portal. We're still awaiting the sociological studies, but I would guess that most of the portal expats were typically not starters. |
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Post by swash on Sept 29, 2022 10:27:59 GMT -5
Tech is very serious. All 100+ members of the football team get a 25k NIL deal. And now the softball team get at least $10k also. When an entire team is NILed, the effect is that lesser players are less inclined to transfer. So these teams have a lock on their 3 and 4 star players who might otherwise have left. That concentrates talent in the hands of a few. And it means that in sports like football, the third-stringer is a pretty good replacement for injuries to the 1st and 2nd person at that position. Maybe. It clearly sets an NIL floor. Unlikely that it has any effect on the athletes with already recognizable name, image, and likeness platforms. |
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Post by linkster on Sept 29, 2022 14:34:59 GMT -5
It's a grey area around boosters. Boosters stepped up and guaranteed portalling male and female basketball players a certain minimum NIL employment (including doing ads for a car dealership, IIRC) if they decided on the U. of Miami. I don't know how South Carolina is writing its rules. But I'd imagine they'd have run it by their compliance dept first. What UConn is doing is helping individual athletes become successful. If a student wanted to publish a book, that student would likely find help at their university to assist them. So, I see what UConn is doing as something akin. What other schools might be experimenting with is a broader sense of team support. This has the effect I noted above, of keeping happy and in place athletes who might otherwise have transferred. If it works efficiently, it could help create stability in a program at the expense of less affluent programs. This will help to keep bench and role players more connected to the team and, as you've so effectively stated, to remain far away from the portal. We're still awaiting the sociological studies, but I would guess that most of the portal expats were typically not starters. You may be correct about that but the media interest will be on the impact players. Maryland lost their top 2 scorers to the portal. There are always unintended consequences too. If a school is overpaying players for appearances, etc. the players will know that. Players make unequal contributions to a team's success. If those that contribute the most look around and see that the end of benchers are getting the same money it can lead to more trouble than if none of them were being paid. "From each according to their abilities to those according to their needs? Sounds like a communist conspiracy to me.  Wealth is wonderful. I wish I had more. But money also has a corrupting side to it and NIL will almost certainly have some of that attached to it. I like UConn's approach better than SCar's. |
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Post by bulkey on Sept 29, 2022 14:43:34 GMT -5
I don't think so. South Carolina usually plays either Boston or Cardoso, but rarely the two at the same time.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 14:45:56 GMT -5
This will help to keep bench and role players more connected to the team and, as you've so effectively stated, to remain far away from the portal. We're still awaiting the sociological studies, but I would guess that most of the portal expats were typically not starters. You may be correct about that but the media interest will be on the impact players. Maryland lost their top 2 scorers to the portal. There are always unintended consequences too. If a school is overpaying players for appearances, etc. the players will know that. Players make unequal contributions to a team's success. If those that contribute the most look around and see that the end of benchers are getting the same money it can lead to more trouble than if none of them were being paid. "From each according to their abilities to those according to their needs? Sounds like a communist conspiracy to me. Wealth is wonderful. I wish I had more. But money also has a corrupting side to it and NIL will almost certainly have some of that attached to it. I like UConn's approach better than SCar's. Yes and isn't it ironic that Maryland would lose their best players, but most schools lose bench or small role players? |
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