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Post by bulkey on Sept 26, 2022 14:26:04 GMT -5
wow. That's her former star player. Silence is deafening....
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Post by huskyharper on Sept 26, 2022 14:40:36 GMT -5
not surprised, there is some bad blood there. Don't think Mulkey treated BG well at all, and nor did Baylor. Apparently, Mulkey continues her mean treatment of former players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 15:21:22 GMT -5
wow. That's her former star player. Silence is deafening.... Particularly deafening when - not too long ago - Mulkey defended the indefensible cover-up of rampant sexual abuse by male Baylor athletes on and around their CHRISTIAN campus? I personally place Kim in the same corrupted bucket as Ken Starr, the man who was Baylor's President, a law school professor there and a big part of the cover-up? Now Mulkey dislikes Griner for her sexual orientation and whatever other BS reasons she might conjure up? I respect Mulkey's recruiting prowess and her ability to win big games, but her many character flaws will forever bias me against her as a human being? How appropriate is it that Griner sits in a Russian prison for a small amount of marijuana in her luggage, but dozens of Baylor rapists and sexual abusers serve no time at all; nor were they even cited?
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Post by swash on Sept 26, 2022 15:51:21 GMT -5
wow. That's her former star player. Silence is deafening.... Particularly deafening when - not too long ago - Mulkey defended the indefensible cover-up of rampant sexual abuse by male Baylor athletes on and around their CHRISTIAN campus? I personally place Kim in the same corrupted bucket as Ken Starr, the man who was Baylor's President, a law school professor there and a big part of the cover-up? Now Mulkey dislikes Griner for her sexual orientation and whatever other BS reasons she might conjure up? I respect Mulkey's recruiting prowess and her ability to win big games, but her many character flaws will forever bias me against her as a human being? How appropriate is it that Griner sits in a Russian prison for a small amount of marijuana in her luggage, but dozens of Baylor rapists and sexual abusers serve no time at all; nor were they even cited? Fair points, all. But I think Kim isn't holding BG's orientation against her. Rather, that BG said that she wasn't supported at that school and was "forced" to hide her preferences. Kim would hate that, because those are both leveled at her leadership and acceptance ... or lack thereof.
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Post by rukia on Sept 26, 2022 18:05:01 GMT -5
BG has a family. I can’t believe she can’t offer up some basic sympathy for them.
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Post by grrrrr on Sept 26, 2022 20:57:23 GMT -5
Not even the typical thoughts and prayers BS. Who in their right mind would want to play for her?
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Post by bulkey on Sept 27, 2022 1:14:15 GMT -5
since the Olympics, they've had a strong relationship
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Post by bulkey on Sept 27, 2022 1:15:16 GMT -5
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Post by bulkey on Sept 27, 2022 1:16:52 GMT -5
Whadya think this is about?
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Post by swash on Sept 27, 2022 7:48:23 GMT -5
Those are very recent players who are not holding back. She's still doing well in recruiting and portal-trolling
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 8:40:50 GMT -5
Whadya think this is about? The Baylor & LSU references are for Kim Mulkey who ignores the terrible Griner situation, and Griner was one of her most impactful players? Notre Dame is definitely the disrespect former Coach Muffet McGraw tossed at Jewel Loyd because Loyd went to the WNBA early? The only mystery is Stanford? I wasn't aware of a situation between Tara and a former player, but........
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Post by bulkey on Sept 27, 2022 11:03:08 GMT -5
Kim (sort of) speaks.
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Post by swash on Sept 27, 2022 12:02:33 GMT -5
Funny how fast that backlash turned into back-tracking. I'm guessing that the one from Queen Egbo really got her attention. Hopefully, recruits noticed, too
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 13:45:27 GMT -5
wow. That's her former star player. Silence is deafening.... There was a time that I had a great deal of respect for Mulkey, but once she stood up for rapists instead of female victims; I really doubted her character? Here's what she said in 2017 about the massive sexual assault scandal at Baylor: During this time period, the were 52 allegations of sexual abuse made by female students and the university began a cover-up? Now here is Mulkey's phony apology in which she claimed the university was doing all it could to help the victims? That was total bull$heet? Mulkey's contrived crocodile tears do nothing for the 52 victims she disrespected and merely paint her as phony? Now we have Mulkey not wanting to weigh in on the unfortunate circumstances of one of her best former player's life? But she'll weigh in on smacking people in the head for bringing up the Baylor rape culture? HYPOCRITE! Yeah; she's a good coach and a very good recruiter, but the stench of her character is overwhelming? BTW...if she was a great coach, she'd have gotten her team past Louisville in 2013; and she'd have stood up for both rape victims and Griner? justwomenssports.com/ncaa-basketball-wnba-kim-mulkey-baylor-players-blast-brittney-griner/
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Post by samanthabrown3 on Sept 27, 2022 14:33:07 GMT -5
Baylor being what it is (or aspires to be), I'm not surprised that Britney was told to be quiet about her sexuality. That was probably one of the conditions of her being there, on the team, on scholarship, whatever. But once she's out of there, what's the difference? They can't penalize her or silence her. In fact, they owe her a lot for making the university better known by those of us outside of Texas.
But Kim--yeah, thoughts and prayers, at least. Or some innocuous statement. If Britney was looking for any help from her in getting out, she's been crushed.
Wasn't Kim one of Geno's coaching friends?
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Post by huskyharper on Sept 27, 2022 14:49:04 GMT -5
Baylor being what it is (or aspires to be), I'm not surprised that Britney was told to be quiet about her sexuality. That was probably one of the conditions of her being there, on the team, on scholarship, whatever. But once she's out of there, what's the difference? They can't penalize her or silence her. In fact, they owe her a lot for making the university better known by those of us outside of Texas. But Kim--yeah, thoughts and prayers, at least. Or some innocuous statement. If Britney was looking for any help from her in getting out, she's been crushed. Wasn't Kim one of Geno's coaching friends? I don't think Kim was ever part of Geno's inner circle of bball coaching friends. He's always been respectful of her, much the same way he is with everyone (unless he's being amusing). BG made Baylor and Kim famous. That Kim is being such a dipsh1t toward her (BG) now should be a sign to all young players of Kim's character. Witch with a B.
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Sept 27, 2022 16:23:32 GMT -5
wow. That's her former star player. Silence is deafening.... Particularly deafening when - not too long ago - Mulkey defended the indefensible cover-up of rampant sexual abuse by male Baylor athletes on and around their CHRISTIAN campus? I personally place Kim in the same corrupted bucket as Ken Starr, the man who was Baylor's President, a law school professor there and a big part of the cover-up? Now Mulkey dislikes Griner for her sexual orientation and whatever other BS reasons she might conjure up? I respect Mulkey's recruiting prowess and her ability to win big games, but her many character flaws will forever bias me against her as a human being? How appropriate is it that Griner sits in a Russian prison for a small amount of marijuana in her luggage, but dozens of Baylor rapists and sexual abusers serve no time at all; nor were they even cited? What that Guy said. A very big thumbs up.
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Post by linkster on Sept 27, 2022 17:32:59 GMT -5
Particularly deafening when - not too long ago - Mulkey defended the indefensible cover-up of rampant sexual abuse by male Baylor athletes on and around their CHRISTIAN campus? I personally place Kim in the same corrupted bucket as Ken Starr, the man who was Baylor's President, a law school professor there and a big part of the cover-up? Now Mulkey dislikes Griner for her sexual orientation and whatever other BS reasons she might conjure up? I respect Mulkey's recruiting prowess and her ability to win big games, but her many character flaws will forever bias me against her as a human being? How appropriate is it that Griner sits in a Russian prison for a small amount of marijuana in her luggage, but dozens of Baylor rapists and sexual abusers serve no time at all; nor were they even cited? What that Guy said. A very big thumbs up. I'm not sure of the current pot laws in Texas but not that long ago possession of a single joint got you 10 years, mandatory. Mulkey's silence may be her just "going along" with her community's standards.
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Post by huskyharper on Sept 27, 2022 20:21:06 GMT -5
What that Guy said. A very big thumbs up. I'm not sure of the current pot laws in Texas but not that long ago possession of a single joint got you 10 years, mandatory. Mulkey's silence may be her just "going along" with her community's standards. Obviously, BG broke Russian law, even if by accident and she has to pay a price. But 9 years is a bit over-board IMHO. Even if Mulkey thinks BG deserves this, she can still be kind re: the hurt in BG's family, friends, etc. But Mulkey thinks she's above it all. Apparently, not.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 27, 2022 20:35:50 GMT -5
What that Guy said. A very big thumbs up. I'm not sure of the current pot laws in Texas but not that long ago possession of a single joint got you 10 years, mandatory. Mulkey's silence may be her just "going along" with her community's standards. We're of course assuming that she's actually guilty. The Russians claim she possessed a few drops of oil, and she admitted to it--but was that at the advice of attorneys? Russia has become a gulag and there are no certainties.
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Post by UConnChapette on Sept 27, 2022 20:48:14 GMT -5
I lost respect for Mulkey a long time ago. She is classless as she has repeatedly shown. Just not a nice human being. Though she does have good jacket throwing technique, I will give her that.
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Post by swash on Sept 27, 2022 21:27:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure of the current pot laws in Texas but not that long ago possession of a single joint got you 10 years, mandatory. Mulkey's silence may be her just "going along" with her community's standards. We're of course assuming that she's actually guilty. The Russians claim she possessed a few drops of oil, and she admitted to it--but was that at the advice of attorneys? Russia has become a gulag and there are no certainties. We'll never know about the canisters, but the court that heard her case convicts over 98% of the accused. Some say it would be 100%, but a few bribe their way out. In any case ... this was never going to be a trial anything like we would have here.
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Post by linkster on Sept 27, 2022 21:46:26 GMT -5
We're of course assuming that she's actually guilty. The Russians claim she possessed a few drops of oil, and she admitted to it--but was that at the advice of attorneys? Russia has become a gulag and there are no certainties. We'll never know about the canisters, but the court that heard her case convicts over 98% of the accused. Some say it would be 100%, but a few bribe their way out. In any case ... this was never going to be a trial anything like we would have here. I like Eldridge Cleaver's comment on US justice. "The reason the statue of Justice in front of many court houses is blindfolded is because the b*tch has dollar signs for eyeballs". If I were to guess I'd say that US athletes got the protection of the billionaire owner of their team and likely never got searched until the US sanctions were imposed. I'll bet that any Russians coming into the US get the same treatment.
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Post by bulkey on Sept 27, 2022 22:39:40 GMT -5
We'll never know about the canisters, but the court that heard her case convicts over 98% of the accused. Some say it would be 100%, but a few bribe their way out. In any case ... this was never going to be a trial anything like we would have here. I like Eldridge Cleaver's comment on US justice. "The reason the statue of Justice in front of many court houses is blindfolded is because the b*tch has dollar signs for eyeballs". If I were to guess I'd say that US athletes got the protection of the billionaire owner of their team and likely never got searched until the US sanctions were imposed. I'll bet that any Russians coming into the US get the same treatment. I just wanted to raise the issue that we really don't even know whether Griner was guilty as charged, not begin a discussion of comparative justice systems. I don't want this embargoed as a political thread, because the important point here is what Kim said or failed to say. So, back on track, like Ken (above) I've seen a massive number of tweets criticizing Kim (and seen none that supports her). This one is particularly pointed:
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Post by linkster on Sept 27, 2022 22:59:02 GMT -5
I like Eldridge Cleaver's comment on US justice. "The reason the statue of Justice in front of many court houses is blindfolded is because the b*tch has dollar signs for eyeballs". If I were to guess I'd say that US athletes got the protection of the billionaire owner of their team and likely never got searched until the US sanctions were imposed. I'll bet that any Russians coming into the US get the same treatment. I just wanted to raise the issue that we really don't even know whether Griner was guilty as charged, not begin a discussion of comparative justice systems. I don't want this embargoed as a political thread, because the important point here is what Kim said or failed to say. So, back on track, like Ken (above) I've seen a massive number of tweets criticizing Kim (and seen none that supports her). This one is particularly pointed: I've always found Kim to be entertaining during games. I also think she may be doing the right thing. As you say, none of us know the truth of what happened. Griner could be an innocent victim or she could be an entitled athlete who thought she was above the law. I've stayed out of the issue up to now because of that.
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