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Post by bulkey on Sept 24, 2022 11:12:42 GMT -5
No one ever shows up to anything at Stanford except maybe a high tech recruiting fair. But Stanford's women's basketball attendance--given the success and glamour of the team--is beyond putrid. After having won the national championship the year before, last year's average home attendance was 2550. gostanford.com/sports/womens-basketball/statsCovid-caution related? if so, only marginally average attendance in the last fully non-pandemic season was 3063. gostanford.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2018-19Jim Harbaugh--someone I rarely quote approvingly--looked back bitterly on his years coaching Stanford football, saying that no matter how good the team got, they couldn't draw fans. In the final home game of his final season there, with his #5 nationally ranked team playing USC, less than 39,000 fans managed to finish their double mocha cappuccinos and asparagus brioches in time to get to the stadium. UConn? last year 8892 against a 2018/19 average of 8459. Geno's complained about falling attendance, which is still more than 3x greater than Stanford's. |
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Post by rukia on Sept 24, 2022 11:26:49 GMT -5
Send this info to Morgan Valley lol.
Seriously, I think Jasmine Davidson (for example) might need to be told about this.
Cameron Brink and Hayley Jones. Generational talents in college basketball and the school still won't turn up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 12:07:18 GMT -5
No one ever shows up to anything at Stanford except maybe a high tech recruiting fair. But Stanford's women's basketball attendance--given the success and glamour of the team--is beyond putrid. After having won the national championship the year before, last year's average home attendance was 2550. gostanford.com/sports/womens-basketball/statsCovid-caution related? if so, only marginally average attendance in the last fully non-pandemic season was 3063. gostanford.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2018-19Jim Harbaugh--someone I rarely quote approvingly--looked back bitterly on his years coaching Stanford football, saying that no matter how good the team got, they couldn't draw fans. In the final home game of his final season there, with his #5 nationally ranked team playing USC, less than 39,000 fans managed to finish their double mocha cappuccinos and asparagus brioches in time to get to the stadium. UConn? last year 8892 against a 2018/19 average of 8459. Geno's complained about falling attendance, which is still more than 3x greater than Stanford's. It should be interesting this season since Tara scheduled a who's who of cupcakes, custards and western twinkies; but #1 South Carolina will pay a visit to the pocket protected posse on 11/20/22. Will SC have more of their fans in the audience than Stanford? |
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Post by linkster on Sept 25, 2022 0:22:24 GMT -5
No one ever shows up to anything at Stanford except maybe a high tech recruiting fair. But Stanford's women's basketball attendance--given the success and glamour of the team--is beyond putrid. After having won the national championship the year before, last year's average home attendance was 2550. gostanford.com/sports/womens-basketball/statsCovid-caution related? if so, only marginally average attendance in the last fully non-pandemic season was 3063. gostanford.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2018-19Jim Harbaugh--someone I rarely quote approvingly--looked back bitterly on his years coaching Stanford football, saying that no matter how good the team got, they couldn't draw fans. In the final home game of his final season there, with his #5 nationally ranked team playing USC, less than 39,000 fans managed to finish their double mocha cappuccinos and asparagus brioches in time to get to the stadium. UConn? last year 8892 against a 2018/19 average of 8459. Geno's complained about falling attendance, which is still more than 3x greater than Stanford's. I could be wrong but I think Stanford has a high % of student athletes and athletes don't really like to be spectators. Then there are the "intellectuals" who spend their time in libraries and laboratories and have little interest. I hear they have a lot of those. When I lived at Storrs I went to one football game and my favorite basketball team was Providence. Saturday afternoon games just made it hard to sleep since I usually got to sleep on Fri nights an hour before dawn.  I cheered for UConn, went to soccer and hockey games, liked indoor track meets. (All free) I'd wager that of that Stanford 2500, many have season tickets and never even go to games, they buy season tickets to everything to support the school. |
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Post by rukia on Sept 25, 2022 1:10:43 GMT -5
One thing to make this a little more fair. I will point out that Stanford has a really low enrollment. Less than 8000 undergrad students.
(They should still be doing better.)
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Post by bulkey on Sept 25, 2022 8:57:07 GMT -5
linkster and rukia: you both make great points and are right....sort of. UConn attendance includes games at Hartford where student attendance is low. Even at Storrs, when I look around, I see lots of older people (far, far older than me, of course  ) The greater Stanford community, including faculty, staff, and graduate students (larger than UConn's) does not support its athletic teams. PS. When I was a graduate student at Berkeley, I went to most of Cal's football games, including traveling to "the farm" when The Big Game was played there. |
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Sept 25, 2022 14:06:36 GMT -5
I don't think there is an easy reason why sports in general draw or don't draw. In addition to the rumored collection of scholarly folks (and my own experience has been that many are completely disinterested in sports, not all of them, but perhaps a higher percentage than in the general population), the fact (likely) that their alumni are well spread out, the smaller size of the student body, a location that may limit attendance (the general area has a lot of congestion, though not (so far as I know) in the immediate neighborhood) and of course lots of competition for your sports and entertainment dollar.
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I always like to point out how well Iowa State does for Women's Basketball. Like Stanford, they are successful (if much less so) and, I mean, what else do you do in Ames? Tour the Bull Semen Institute (real place, not making that up)?
In the end, there are just so many factors, and only the success factor is "strong" at Stanford (WBB). My wife's and my experience at Rutgers - where women's attendance was quite good during the peak years in the 2000's - and here in Tucson (which is a basketball town) where we have become a national leader in attendance based on success - suggests that success might be enough to move the needle, but perhaps not when other factors align "against".
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Post by bulkey on Sept 25, 2022 16:00:31 GMT -5
I don't think there is an easy reason why sports in general draw or don't draw. In addition to the rumored collection of scholarly folks (and my own experience has been that many are completely disinterested in sports, not all of them, but perhaps a higher percentage than in the general population), the fact (likely) that their alumni are well spread out, the smaller size of the student body, a location that may limit attendance (the general area has a lot of congestion, though not (so far as I know) in the immediate neighborhood) and of course lots of competition for your sports and entertainment dollar. n I always like to point out how well Iowa State does for Women's Basketball. Like Stanford, they are successful (if much less so) and, I mean, what else do you do in Ames? Tour the Bull Semen Institute (real place, not making that up)? In the end, there are just so many factors, and only the success factor is "strong" at Stanford (WBB). My wife's and my experience at Rutgers - where women's attendance was quite good during the peak years in the 2000's - and here in Tucson (which is a basketball town) where we have become a national leader in attendance based on success - suggests that success might be enough to move the needle, but perhaps not when other factors align "against". I agree that there are many considerations to attendance. But I think it's somewhat tautological that Stanford doesn't have a culture of supporting its teams and therefore we can't effectively accuse them of not drawing crowds. A great number of Stanford alums live in the Bay Area. And the year after winning the NCAA championship, the team drew an average of 2550. You want to know where the kids are? They're here: |
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Post by huskyharper on Sept 26, 2022 14:11:50 GMT -5
"Bull Semen Institute" ? OMG, damn near choked laughing at that! To the point of this thread, when I went to UCONN (back in the Dark Ages) I couldn't afford to go to many games. I went to maybe 2 football games (Memorial Stadium), and 3 (?) men's basketball games (pre-Gampel, 1 at CC). No money, no get to go. It's not that I didn't want to go, I would have LOVED season tix to anything. BTW, I was in the polo club. It was the only horse thing open to non-aggie students. |
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I cheered for UConn, went to soccer and hockey games, liked indoor track meets. (All free) 
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