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Post by vtcwbuff on Jan 11, 2022 15:43:32 GMT -5
Quotes from biological female Madison Kenyon and Idaho State track athlete:
"I have been force to compete against biological males in 5 races and I have lost every time"
"Women and girls don’t go out for sports to get a participation trophy. We want to win. We work to win. And the very least we deserve is a fair chance to do that . . . "
"We can beat exhaustion, frustration, even a tough team. We can beat the clock. We can beat some pretty tough odds. But in the end, we can’t beat biology—or officials more concerned with pleasing the wokes than "respecting our needs and identities."
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Jan 11, 2022 17:51:16 GMT -5
As I've said many times, this is something that needs to be figured out and addressed. I am all for supporting transgender athletes, but if they have gone through puberty as a male, they are clearly documented as having an unfair advantage to compete against other females. I don't have the answer, but I do not support holding unfair competitions any more than I support discrimination against transgender individuals. And anyone who considers themselves so "woke" that they think allowing the unfair advantage is somehow appropriate isn't really woke at all.
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Post by linkster on Jan 18, 2022 14:15:33 GMT -5
I've been reading about how transgendered athletes will kill womens sports for years now, maybe a decade or more and I don't see that it's more than a very isolated issue. But it involves sex so the media rushes to report every case like it's an epidemic.
"Advantage" is what competition is all about. If Madison Kenyon is 10 seconds faster than any other female in her state in the mile then is that fair to the other girls who have no chance? Madison's real complaint is that she wants to win. So what about every other girl in the state that has no chance to beat her, ever? She bases unfairness on what is a biological advantage. Well, biological advantage is also present within the sexes. So I guess it's OK for Madison to keep beating everyone despite her biological advantage as long as she's beating girls, girls that have no chance to beat her?
This is a complicated issue but those who see it simply as a male/female problem are not looking at the big picture. Sports is all about physical advantage and when Madison retires from HS track to allow other girls a chance to win I'll take her seriously.
It seems that all of these stories have a top female athlete complaining that she can't win. Does dividing sports by genetalia solve the unfairness issue? It might for Madison, who will dominate her sport, but what of the other girls? They lose either way. Madison doesn't give a hoot about them, she wants to dominate and win every event she enters. She wants to be the dominator.
Sports are sports. A male who can't make a boys athletic team may be a better athlete than every female in the school but he can't compete in his school because he is male. Madison is no worse off than he is. In fact she is in a much better situation than the boy because she can still compete on a team while he can't.
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