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Post by magic on Mar 29, 2021 20:34:48 GMT -5
Debbie Antenelli has already started crying about the no foul be called an Carringtom's shot. And I'm sure we'll hear the crying by from the rest in the studio too. Paige was knocked around like a ping pong ball the whole game . A couple times knocked off her feet. Totally had it with the ESPN broadcast crew !
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Post by semper on Mar 29, 2021 20:43:43 GMT -5
I despise Antonelli...as much as she hates us.
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Post by UConnChapette on Mar 29, 2021 20:58:45 GMT -5
The game was filled with bad calls. And you are right, Paige was bounced around like a beach ball in the stands and the calls were not made. But the end of game calls will always get the attention and the endless analysis to draw attention and create controversy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 21:19:58 GMT -5
Debbie Antenelli has already started crying about the no foul be called an Carringtom's shot. And I'm sure we'll hear the crying by from the rest in the studio too. Paige was knocked around like a ping pong ball the whole game . A couple times knocked off her feet. Totally had it with the ESPN broadcast crew ! There were so many missed Baylor fouls that I consider this a last second make up no call.......sorry, not sorry!!!!!!!
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Post by bulkey on Mar 29, 2021 21:55:19 GMT -5
Over on Muffet's Bench and at Tenn, they're all convinced that UConn got all the calls.
Of course, they didn't. But maybe we can appreciate that ragging on the refs is a matter of perspective?
In their glory days, Patriots fans were convinced that the refs were out to get them because the NFL wanted balance, but if you go on other fans' sites, they are convinced that the Patriots got all the calls because the NFL wants the Patriots to win because it was a more interesting story line.
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Post by nyhuskyfan on Mar 29, 2021 22:13:47 GMT -5
I am in agreement that we can get everyone back on the court and Baylor can take 2 free throws, if, and only if, UConn gets to shoot 10 or 12 free throws based on the no call fouls on them.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 29, 2021 22:16:16 GMT -5
when this is large size, it seems as if Liv has her hand resting on Carrington's elbow, though Aaliyah is also hitting her from other angles. Stuff happens. No whining about refs. The calls even out, and, even if they don't, it's a bad signal to players to blame anyone outside themselves. That's how life happens. Move on. Carrington has class: she said she thought it was a foul and then shrugged. You shrug off bad calls. It's a game. ![](//storage.proboards.com/6136932/thumbnailer/aaHzZIYuxOodsWsZeTGX.png)
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Post by UConnChapette on Mar 29, 2021 22:35:14 GMT -5
It may have been a blown call, but there were many fouls committed by Baylor that were not called. Who knows how the game would have been impacted if those calls were made.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 23:59:08 GMT -5
It may have been a blown call, but there were many fouls committed by Baylor that were not called. Who knows how the game would have been impacted if those calls were made. I didn't see Coach Mulkey say anything about this no call .... /photo/1
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Post by knightsbridgeaz on Mar 30, 2021 1:17:38 GMT -5
Just a comment from someone with no horse in the game -
Rather than saying the game was filled with "bad" calls, I would say that what I saw was largely "let em play". This was repeated in game 2 where one of my Wildcats shoved an Indiana player after an out-of-bounds play and an Indiana player left the bench and got slightly into the situation. After review - no calls at all. Like I said "let em play".
The play did not cost Baylor the game nor did it give the game to UConn. As CVS as always says, it never comes down to one play. There were numerous other plays during the game that if they had gone differently, either UConn or Baylor might have been up by quite a bit. This just gets a lot of attention because it was the last play.
Incidentally, Carolyn Peck was perfectly sensible on Sports Center. It was a foul, and there were numerous other fouls throughout the game, including a tackle of Bueckers, that were also not called, and there were numerous free throws missed that could also have made the difference.
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Post by UConnChapette on Mar 30, 2021 8:23:19 GMT -5
I heard Carolyn Peck say this and I agree with her analysis. How odd that I agree with her.
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Post by chicagogg on Mar 30, 2021 8:24:56 GMT -5
What knightsbridge and Chappy said. Voices of reason.
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Post by ursusminor on Mar 30, 2021 8:26:19 GMT -5
I agree. There's been a lot of "let em play" this entire tournament, at least from what I've watched (admittedly, mostly just the UConn games). I'm also not sure there was a ref in great position to see the contact on that last play; the one just behind didn't have a very good angle to see exactly what happened. It's a tough job.
There has been a lot of press complaining about the officiating during this tourney (including, I think, two other games where they were blamed for letting the higher seed win). There's been a lot of no-calls. Can't rely on them to blow the whistle.
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Post by bulkey on Mar 30, 2021 8:54:57 GMT -5
I agree with this: it was the referee's style. All the complaining on our game thread before that was a response to let 'em play. UConn has always been a finesse team and Baylor is far the more physical team, so they got away with a lot more obvious stuff. That's a question of style, not some sort of favoritism.
We UConn fans are some of the most sophisticated fans in all basketball, except when it comes to not realizing that every fan base thinks its teams get robbed by the refs.
Look at the Tenn and ND boards: they think UConn got all the calls.
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Post by grrrrr on Mar 30, 2021 12:23:56 GMT -5
I disagree completely with all of you. I thought Baylor's line play was exceptional, that off tackle play worked all night. UCONN needs bigger lineman. There is one thing I don't get, why were their basketball hoops on the field?
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Post by grrrrr on Mar 30, 2021 12:26:24 GMT -5
It's easy to call it a foul in slow motion, it didn't look egregious in real time. Gotta let it go.
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Post by swash on Mar 30, 2021 12:53:24 GMT -5
I agree with this: it was the referee's style. All the complaining on our game thread before that was a response to let 'em play. UConn has always been a finesse team and Baylor is far the more physical team, so they got away with a lot more obvious stuff. That's a question of style, not some sort of favoritism. We UConn fans are some of the most sophisticated fans in all basketball, except when it comes to not realizing that every fan base thinks its teams get robbed by the refs. Look at the Tenn and ND boards: they think UConn got all the calls. Yeah. But they're wrong. LOL Carrington careens into the middle out of control and falls in a heap. Foul is called. 30 seconds later Paige drives to the rim at the other end and is tossed to the floor out of bounds. No call. NaLyssa comes in from the foul line and shoves the pile of bodies under the basket like a bowling ball - No call and announcers say UCONN "forgot" to box out. Meanwhile back at the ranch, Evina called for pushing Carrington on a much less egregious example of the exact same thing. Paige and Christyn bumped after taking outside shots, never called. Carrington given three shots on what was a foul, but was less than the aforementioned contact. I don't complain when the calls are balanced. I even argue like you do that they sometimes SEEM to be unbalanced because the two teams expect different things to be called or not called based on their differing styles. This game absolutely did have some of that, but Aaliyah gets called for a blocking foul in the lane and the very next play the Baylor player has both heels inside the arc, but it is a charging call. It may not have been intentional. They may not have even noticed it, but a re-watch will show that the same actions went against UCONN on several occasions, costing both Edwards and ONO serious minutes and turning the tide of the game. It was material to the way the game could be played.
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Post by davidinnaples on Mar 30, 2021 13:04:32 GMT -5
I agree with this: it was the referee's style. All the complaining on our game thread before that was a response to let 'em play. UConn has always been a finesse team and Baylor is far the more physical team, so they got away with a lot more obvious stuff. That's a question of style, not some sort of favoritism. We UConn fans are some of the most sophisticated fans in all basketball, except when it comes to not realizing that every fan base thinks its teams get robbed by the refs. Look at the Tenn and ND boards: they think UConn got all the calls. At the half, Baylor had four (4) starters with 0 fouls each.... think about that and tell me how much the refs "let them play".... short of a headlock, it was tough and physical..
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Post by swash on Mar 30, 2021 13:55:29 GMT -5
It's easy to call it a foul in slow motion, it didn't look egregious in real time. Gotta let it go. In this case, her flopping theatrics may have cost her the call. She was obviously not knocked to the floor as she made it look
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Post by bulkey on Mar 30, 2021 14:00:00 GMT -5
This happens everytime a coach tells her/his team to get physical with UConn. It's a given. Remember how ND slugged Lou?
Detroit Pistons got away with figurative murder. Then the Bulls got Rodman and started punching back. Watch The Last Dance.
I promise it's going to happen again and again and again to UConn. Let's save our breath and bring in some out of town muscle.
yours truly, Bulkey from Philly who always drove with an elbow swinging
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Post by radylady on Mar 30, 2021 14:00:14 GMT -5
It's easy to call it a foul in slow motion, it didn't look egregious in real time. Gotta let it go. In this case, her flopping theatrics may have cost her the call. She was obviously not knocked to the floor as she made it look Yeah...in this game I noticed the Notre Dame-esque flopping, less obvious of course - clearly they worked on their technique. We can speculate until the next game for all the good it will do. It's in the books. It's done.
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Post by vtcwbuff on Mar 30, 2021 14:04:43 GMT -5
when this is large size, it seems as if Liv has her hand resting on Carrington's elbow, though Aaliyah is also hitting her from other angles. Stuff happens. No whining about refs. The calls even out, and, even if they don't, it's a bad signal to players to blame anyone outside themselves. That's how life happens. Move on. Carrington has class: she said she thought it was a foul and then shrugged. You shrug off bad calls. It's a game. View AttachmentShouldn't the Carrington knee to ONO's crotch be a foul?
On edit - it was a double crotch hit. Shouldn't that be two fouls against Baylor?
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Post by vtcwbuff on Mar 30, 2021 14:06:19 GMT -5
My feelings on the "foul not called" When you look at the bracket - UConn wins - Baylor loses and that's all that counts. Let 'em whine! And yes Bueckers got thumped around a bit. No big deal. It's part of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 15:07:13 GMT -5
Over on Muffet's Bench and at Tenn, they're all convinced that UConn got all the calls. Of course, they didn't. But maybe we can appreciate that ragging on the refs is a matter of perspective? In their glory days, Patriots fans were convinced that the refs were out to get them because the NFL wanted balance, but if you go on other fans' sites, they are convinced that the Patriots got all the calls because the NFL wants the Patriots to win because it was a more interesting story line. If I post this over there, they'd say it was a hoax & call me a connie............. ![(puke)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sick.png) ........I've been sharing it on Twitter with reckless abandon & I've already got angry rampaging bears ....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 15:08:27 GMT -5
when this is large size, it seems as if Liv has her hand resting on Carrington's elbow, though Aaliyah is also hitting her from other angles. Stuff happens. No whining about refs. The calls even out, and, even if they don't, it's a bad signal to players to blame anyone outside themselves. That's how life happens. Move on. Carrington has class: she said she thought it was a foul and then shrugged. You shrug off bad calls. It's a game. View AttachmentShouldn't the Carrington knee to ONO's crotch be a foul?
On edit - it was a double crotch hit. Shouldn't that be two fouls against Baylor? Yes and these as well as many others:
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