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Post by rockymtblue2 on Feb 9, 2021 13:46:40 GMT -5
6 points(3-11) 3 rebounds 4 turnovers. In 2 years she has not perfomed well in a "big game" except accepable against Arkansas, which I don't consider big time. There 0-5 3s 2-5 FTs and a decent 5 rebounds, 3 Ast 7-17 16 points.
I don't know what it is about her, but I don't feel good about her holding up her end in the NCAAs.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 9, 2021 13:53:29 GMT -5
I'm not trying to refute your stats, Rocky, because I think a lot of us feel Christyn isn't playing up to her potential.
Just that Geno continues to give her lots of playing time, even while Nika has been starting. In effect, Christyn is starting over Aubrey or Aaliyah.
What this means to me is that Geno sees a lot of intangibles in Christyn that we need to take on trust. That, to Geno, the team plays better when she's on the court.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 14:03:26 GMT -5
6 points(3-11) 3 rebounds 4 turnovers. In 2 years she has not perfomed well in a "big game" except accepable against Arkansas, which I don't consider big time. There 0-5 3s 2-5 FTs and a decent 5 rebounds, 3 Ast 7-17 16 points. I don't know what it is about her, but I don't feel good about her holding up her end in the NCAAs. I'm not gonna pile on too much here, but she needs to shoot less 3's and drive more! If you re-watch the Arkansas game, you'l see that within the 1st minute of the game she misses her coverage on Dungee....BING 3 points Arkansas!! She was so late getting out on her that you have to wonder if she was even paying attention? |
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Feb 9, 2021 15:07:22 GMT -5
6 points(3-11) 3 rebounds 4 turnovers. In 2 years she has not perfomed well in a "big game" except accepable against Arkansas, which I don't consider big time. There 0-5 3s 2-5 FTs and a decent 5 rebounds, 3 Ast 7-17 16 points. I don't know what it is about her, but I don't feel good about her holding up her end in the NCAAs. I'm not gonna pile on too much here, but she needs to shoot less 3's and drive more! If you re-watch the Arkansas game, you'l see that within the 1st minute of the game she misses her coverage on Dungee....BING 3 points Arkansas!! She was so late getting out on her that you have to wonder if she was even paying attention? I suspect she thinks, maybe correctly, that her WNBA draft potential is tied to the 3 ball. |
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Post by swash on Feb 9, 2021 15:15:01 GMT -5
I'm not trying to refute your stats, Rocky, because I think a lot of us feel Christyn isn't playing up to her potential. Just that Geno continues to give her lots of playing time, even while Nika has been starting. In effect, Christyn is starting over Aubrey or Aaliyah. What this means to me is that Geno sees a lot of intangibles in Christyn that we need to take on trust. That, to Geno, the team plays better when she's on the court. There's also the fact that we've seen that her highs are very good. If she can just get to there on a consistent basis, this is a much better team. The investment of a starting slot now would be a small investment to make if she were playing at AA caliber by tourney-time. The next few games - even if she starts and produces absolutely nothing (and she did some things very well last night) - Geno can and should expect to be able to win those games anyway. I guess this is a long-winded version of ... be patient while we can afford to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 15:15:39 GMT -5
I'm not gonna pile on too much here, but she needs to shoot less 3's and drive more! If you re-watch the Arkansas game, you'l see that within the 1st minute of the game she misses her coverage on Dungee....BING 3 points Arkansas!! She was so late getting out on her that you have to wonder if she was even paying attention? I suspect she thinks, maybe correctly, that her WNBA draft potential is tied to the 3 ball. God, I pity the poor WNBA team that needs a 27% 3 point shooter, but it could be.......LOL!!!  !!! uconnhuskies.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2020-21?path=wbball |
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Post by nyhuskyfan on Feb 9, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -5
She's won me over. She hasn't played good, but she keeps plugging along. She seems to have a pretty good attitude, hasn't been selfish or looked for her own too much. I think it's a matter of time before she really helps the team win some games whether her numbers are great or not.
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Post by doggydaddy on Feb 9, 2021 16:57:46 GMT -5
6 points(3-11) 3 rebounds 4 turnovers. In 2 years she has not perfomed well in a "big game" except accepable against Arkansas, which I don't consider big time. There 0-5 3s 2-5 FTs and a decent 5 rebounds, 3 Ast 7-17 16 points. I don't know what it is about her, but I don't feel good about her holding up her end in the NCAAs. |
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Post by UConnChapette on Feb 9, 2021 17:00:12 GMT -5
6 points(3-11) 3 rebounds 4 turnovers. In 2 years she has not perfomed well in a "big game" except accepable against Arkansas, which I don't consider big time. There 0-5 3s 2-5 FTs and a decent 5 rebounds, 3 Ast 7-17 16 points. I don't know what it is about her, but I don't feel good about her holding up her end in the NCAAs. Oh, how I love that clip. |
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Feb 9, 2021 17:27:35 GMT -5
I'm not trying to refute your stats, Rocky, because I think a lot of us feel Christyn isn't playing up to her potential. Just that Geno continues to give her lots of playing time, even while Nika has been starting. In effect, Christyn is starting over Aubrey or Aaliyah. What this means to me is that Geno sees a lot of intangibles in Christyn that we need to take on trust. That, to Geno, the team plays better when she's on the court. There's also the fact that we've seen that her highs are very good. If she can just get to there on a consistent basis, this is a much better team. The investment of a starting slot now would be a small investment to make if she were playing at AA caliber by tourney-time. The next few games - even if she starts and produces absolutely nothing (and she did some things very well last night) - Geno can and should expect to be able to win those games anyway. I guess this is a long-winded version of ... be patient while we can afford to be. We have no one to replace her; I just wish she would be productive in big games. |
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Feb 9, 2021 17:36:45 GMT -5
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Post by vtcwbuff on Feb 9, 2021 17:50:50 GMT -5
RMB - Up until a minute ago I tended to agree that Williams needs to be more consistent and she needs to show up for big games.
Then I decided to look at her performance so far this season. IMO she has had but one "bad" game and that was last night where she scored only 6 points. In no other game has she scored less than double digits. In the big games she has averaged just under 20 points! I think my opinion probably came from all the missed 3s and the missed free throws. In any case, I've scratched her off my under performer list.
My list of this years big games
Depaul #1 - 14 Depaul #2 - 29 Arkansas - 16 Tennesee - 20 South Carolina - 6
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Post by swash on Feb 9, 2021 18:00:52 GMT -5
There's also the fact that we've seen that her highs are very good. If she can just get to there on a consistent basis, this is a much better team. The investment of a starting slot now would be a small investment to make if she were playing at AA caliber by tourney-time. The next few games - even if she starts and produces absolutely nothing (and she did some things very well last night) - Geno can and should expect to be able to win those games anyway. I guess this is a long-winded version of ... be patient while we can afford to be. We have no one to replace her; I just wish she would be productive in big games. Nobody here will disagree that we'd like more from her when the chips are down |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 12:48:40 GMT -5
It's always a team win or loss, but Paige, Aubrey, Nika and Aaliyah carried the team this game!! UConn only played 7 for this game and all 7 played good defense! Olivia, Christyn and Evina shot a combined 25% for this game and we'll need better in the future! Paige, Nika, Aaliyah and Aubrey shot a combined 47%, scored 51 of the team's 63 points and grabbed 16 of their 26 rebounds! We barely escaped this game, but I believe the team will grow from what they experienced! |
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Post by grrrrr on Feb 10, 2021 14:27:03 GMT -5
Nika, Paige, Aaliyah and Liv have to start. If E is feeling ok she can be the 5th. If not CW. Aubrey is the probably the best 6th person in the country. She is so explosive, she can eventually start if she becomes more consistent but she is more valuable now coming off the bench. If she eventually starts Mir can slide into 6th person. I feel bad for CW, she is scoring in some games, she disappears in others. But it's more than that, something just seems off. She has never recaptured her freshmen mojo, when we all thought that she would become the next great Husky. If it hasn't happened by now it's not going to. If a player has stayed healthy it is almost unheard of for a UCONN player not to show improvement. Sometimes consistent improvement, sometimes a great leap forward. That is not the case for CW. Except for E, all the upperclassmen have relinquished their leadership roles to the frosh. Which is another point, CW should be a leader on the court, but the leaders are Nika and Paige. I don't get it. Maybe she peaked too soon?
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Post by UConnChapette on Feb 10, 2021 14:46:25 GMT -5
CW has not been scoring consistently, but she does bring other things to the table. There is a lot more to helping a team be successful than just scoring. I trust Geno and if he feels she is the best to be one of the five starters, I am good with that. She is in a shooting slump. But she is still playing good defense and rebounding. I have no problem with her in the starting lineup.
I admit I have been tough on some players, particularly Liv with her propensity for fouls and the long range shots. Okay, I get that Geno wants her to take those long range shots. If she makes them, it forces the defense to come out on her. The problem is she is not making them consistently so defenses are giving her the shot. Until she starts making them. I am going to lighten up on her - at least on the long range twos and threes. The fouling I am still going to kvetch about. As a junior, she should know how to set a solid, unmoving screen and how to keep her arms up and not bring them down into the offensive player. She gets called for that at least once or twice per game.
There is so much talent on this team this year, and a whole other ship full coming in next season. As difficult as managing the minutes is this year, next year will be twice as difficult.
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Post by vtcwbuff on Feb 10, 2021 15:09:17 GMT -5
Williams' "inconsistent" scoring this season - in schedule order.
10,21,15,24,18,14,0 (14 minutes),17,20,17,16,29,DNP,18,6. She is 2nd on the team in scoring average and points scored.
If you are looking for inconsistency there are a couple of other players that should be looked at. Looked at another way her scoring compared to her ppg average - -6,+5,-1,+8,+2,-2,-16,+1, +4,+1,-0,+13,+2,-10. With the exception of USC I don't see a lot of negative inconsistencies.
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Post by bulkey on Feb 10, 2021 16:30:50 GMT -5
It's always a team win or loss, but Paige, Aubrey, Nika and Aaliyah carried the team this game!! UConn only played 7 for this game and all 7 played good defense! Olivia, Christyn and Evina shot a combined 25% for this game and we'll need better in the future! Paige, Nika, Aaliyah and Aubrey shot a combined 47%, scored 51 of the team's 63 points and grabbed 16 of their 26 rebounds! We barely escaped this game, but I believe the team will grow from what they experienced! This was an ugly game. South Carolina didn't shoot any better (of course, it was a Nike basketball....). Both teams through themselves into defense, and there was a lot of mistakes on both sides. I don't think shooting percentages matter much. Geno would say the same: volume is what counts. Liv led the team in assists in only 29 minutes. How many times has that happened for a big since Stef? I think her role is evolving and that she's quite coachable. Evina is hurt or something like that. Hasn't shot well in 4 games after being absolutely dead-eye before. Christyn, as vtcwbuff shows, is a lot more consistent than appears. It's a team. Many of those great shots Paige makes comes because others screen, pick, or pass. |
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Post by chicagogg on Feb 10, 2021 16:36:56 GMT -5
"It's a team. Many of those great shots Paige makes comes because others screen, pick, or pass."
Amen, Bulkey! You nailed it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 16:47:26 GMT -5
It's always a team win or loss, but Paige, Aubrey, Nika and Aaliyah carried the team this game!! UConn only played 7 for this game and all 7 played good defense! Olivia, Christyn and Evina shot a combined 25% for this game and we'll need better in the future! Paige, Nika, Aaliyah and Aubrey shot a combined 47%, scored 51 of the team's 63 points and grabbed 16 of their 26 rebounds! We barely escaped this game, but I believe the team will grow from what they experienced! This was an ugly game. South Carolina didn't shoot any better (of course, it was a Nike basketball....). Both teams through themselves into defense, and there was a lot of mistakes on both sides. I don't think shooting percentages matter much. Geno would say the same: volume is what counts. Liv led the team in assists in only 29 minutes. How many times has that happened for a big since Stef? I think her role is evolving and that she's quite coachable. Evina is hurt or something like that. Hasn't shot well in 4 games after being absolutely dead-eye before. Christyn, as vtcwbuff shows, is a lot more consistent than appears. It's a team. Many of those great shots Paige makes comes because others screen, pick, or pass. Thank you for reminding me about Evina!! During the 1st quarter, when she came down with a rebound, you could see her wince as she landed! I think her knee is troubling her more than just a little bit! Also; just before the end of the 4th quarter when she had that out of bounds turnover, you could see she had trouble moving!! Christyn has mostly been consistent in her scoring and she's mostly played good defense, but both her 3 point (27.4%) shooting and her free throws (60.5%) have been a problem! uconnhuskies.com/sports/womens-basketball/stats/2020-21?path=wbball |
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Post by doggydaddy on Feb 10, 2021 17:08:57 GMT -5
It's just so easy to find the players that struggle in a particular game because its always someone.
I just don't see the point.
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Post by tipin on Feb 11, 2021 9:54:53 GMT -5
C does the best she can every time out. She just has a bigger spread between “on” nights and “off” nights than most others. Would she be more appreciated if she was a steady 4 to 6 points/game ?
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Post by rockymtblue2 on Feb 11, 2021 10:36:18 GMT -5
C does the best she can every time out. She just has a bigger spread between “on” nights and “off” nights than most others. Would she be more appreciated if she was a steady 4 to 6 points/game ? Last fall Geno was looking for her to be the top scorer on the team, averaging 17-18 pints a game,and last night she was o-6, 1 rebound, 1ast, 1TO, 1 PF. Very hard to figure what is going on. |
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Post by swash on Feb 11, 2021 11:21:19 GMT -5
C does the best she can every time out. She just has a bigger spread between “on” nights and “off” nights than most others. Would she be more appreciated if she was a steady 4 to 6 points/game ? excellent point. Usually very good, occasionally outstanding, and sometimes ... not good. That's probably preferable to being consistently ... just barely good enough |
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Post by swash on Feb 11, 2021 11:40:18 GMT -5
C does the best she can every time out. She just has a bigger spread between “on” nights and “off” nights than most others. Would she be more appreciated if she was a steady 4 to 6 points/game ? Last fall Geno was looking for her to be the top scorer on the team, averaging 17-18 pints a game,and last night she was o-6, 1 rebound, 1ast, 1TO, 1 PF. Very hard to figure what is going on. last night was a downer, for sure. Doubtless she feels that much more than we do. Did anyone else enjoy the UnderArmour spot featuring Bella Alarie? It is fantastic. Same series as the one by Michael Phelps. I cannot find it to link here, alas. She talks about suffering bouts of doubt, and what works to help her move ahead |
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