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Post by chicagogg on Apr 19, 2024 11:10:30 GMT -5
Looking for any hint--any!--of what's going on with Reagan Beers and I'm seeing a lot of twittering about UConn fans not wanting her because she's politically conservative (which, I gather, she is). I have not seen a single Husky fan on any board or social medium commenting about her--or any player's--politics. Is this disinformation by other fans? Could be = wouldn't be the first or last time.
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Post by UConnChapette on Apr 19, 2024 11:12:27 GMT -5
Looking for any hint--any!--of what's going on with Reagan Beers and I'm seeing a lot of twittering about UConn fans not wanting her because she's politically conservative (which, I gather, she is). I have not seen a single Husky fan on any board or social medium commenting about her--or any player's--politics. Is this disinformation by other fans? As long as they aren't spouting their politics to the world, who cares?
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Post by meyers7 on Apr 19, 2024 11:35:23 GMT -5
Looking for any hint--any!--of what's going on with Reagan Beers and I'm seeing a lot of twittering about UConn fans not wanting her because she's politically conservative (which, I gather, she is). I have not seen a single Husky fan on any board or social medium commenting about her--or any player's--politics. Is this disinformation by other fans? As long as they aren't spouting their politics to the world, who cares? Hell, they can even spout their politics, as long as they can avg 10/10. I don't listen to what a 18-20 year old BB player says about politics anyway. Besides, I don't think Geno and Co (particularly CD) let them do too much anyway. You never really hear about politics, boyfriends/girlfriends, etc. until after they graduate.
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Post by magic on Apr 19, 2024 14:31:11 GMT -5
I'd bet it's more about someone trying to diswade a player from going somewhere and using politics as a reason . But, anyone that doesn't think politics are involved in these decisions are living in a dream world. Frankly, why a women would want to be in a certain state , considering today's state of access to women's health care and it's denial is a mystery to me.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 19, 2024 14:38:22 GMT -5
I'd bet it's more about someone trying to diswade a player from going somewhere and using politics as a reason . But, anyone that doesn't think politics are involved in these decisions are living in a dream world. Frankly, why a women would want to be in a certain state , considering today's state of access to women's health care and it's denial is a mystery to me. While I might agree with your political sentiments, we should not go further in this direction. The point is that we welcome all players--and all students!--regardless of their political views. Whether they welcome UConn because of their political views is entirely their business. Despite these tendentious claims on twitter, I just haven't seen any Husky fan express anything remotely like a political judgment of Reagan--or of any other WCBB player.
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Post by meyers7 on Apr 19, 2024 14:50:14 GMT -5
I'd bet it's more about someone trying to diswade a player from going somewhere and using politics as a reason . But, anyone that doesn't think politics are involved in these decisions are living in a dream world. Frankly, why a women would want to be in a certain state , considering today's state of access to women's health care and it's denial is a mystery to me. While I might agree with your political sentiments, we should not go further in this direction. The point is that we welcome all players--and all students!--regardless of their political views. Whether they welcome UConn because of their political views is entirely their business. Despite these tendentious claims on twitter, I just haven't seen any Husky fan express anything remotely like a political judgment of Reagan--or of any other WCBB player. Yeah, as long as they don't wear too much makeup, long nails or long eyelashes, I don't think UCONN fans will care.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 24, 2024 13:07:38 GMT -5
We haven't had much "Beers talk" because there doesn't seem to be much to talk about.
But just wanted to point out that there are an increasing number of decent bigs (power forwards mainly) declaring for the portal (see the portal thread).
Of course Raegan would be an amazing get for UConn. But there are lots of others who would be strong players in the existing rotation, which, given the incredible brilliance and depth in the 1-3 positions, would do the trick.
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Post by doggydaddy on Apr 24, 2024 13:50:52 GMT -5
We are starting to look like the Tennessee board, jonesing after every player that hits the portal.
At least with Chen (Visiting) and Beers (social media contact) there is a reason to discuss.
But players that enter the portal without any UConn reference? It's just a little silly to me.
Hey, go for it. It's something to talk about.
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Post by mdoggie on Apr 24, 2024 14:00:58 GMT -5
We are starting to look like the Tennessee board, jonesing after every player that hits the portal. At least with Chen (Visiting) and Beers (social media contact) there is a reason to discuss. But players that enter the portal without any UConn reference? It's just a little silly to me. Hey, go for it. It's something to talk about. I agree and that is NOT a good look. Relax and let it play out. Geno and staff may surprise some of you. There is also a possibility that UConn goes with its current players and doesn’t use the portal at all.
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Post by semper on Apr 24, 2024 14:04:09 GMT -5
Yeah, but we need chin wag! And this is about all we got...
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Post by mdoggie on Apr 24, 2024 14:08:00 GMT -5
Yeah, but we need chin wag! And this is about all we got... Had to Google that I must admit .
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Post by doggydaddy on Apr 24, 2024 14:13:50 GMT -5
Yeah, but we need chin wag! And this is about all we got... Just list the players, post the X that they are in the portal but at least wait until we know more if there is any UConn interest from the player or Geno.
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Post by linkster on Apr 24, 2024 14:15:29 GMT -5
We haven't had much "Beers talk" because there doesn't seem to be much to talk about. But just wanted to point out that there are an increasing number of decent bigs (power forwards mainly) declaring for the portal (see the portal thread). Of course Raegan would be an amazing get for UConn. But there are lots of others who would be strong players in the existing rotation, which, given the incredible brilliance and depth in the 1-3 positions, would do the trick. I think you are overstating that. UConn can use a 4/5 who "get it" and can step right into the rotation. I don't think there are "lots" who fit. Stats are a big part but Geno passes over a lot of great basketball players for other reasons.
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Post by doggydaddy on Apr 24, 2024 14:26:53 GMT -5
But there are lots of others who would be strong players in the existing rotation, which, given the incredible brilliance and depth in the 1-3 positions, would do the trick. Well, I'll name three that weren't there last season. Patterson, El Alfy and Strong. UConn is loaded next season.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 24, 2024 14:27:00 GMT -5
We haven't had much "Beers talk" because there doesn't seem to be much to talk about. But just wanted to point out that there are an increasing number of decent bigs (power forwards mainly) declaring for the portal (see the portal thread). Of course Raegan would be an amazing get for UConn. But there are lots of others who would be strong players in the existing rotation, which, given the incredible brilliance and depth in the 1-3 positions, would do the trick. I think you are overstating that. UConn can use a 4/5 who "get it" and can step right into the rotation. I don't think there are "lots" who fit. Stats are a big part but Geno passes over a lot of great basketball players for other reasons. That's true. It took Dorka the better part of a year to learn the system. But she was expected to be a 5. If we assume Sarah might get competitive minutes out of high school, with no advanced experience in more complicated schemes, why not players who've been around college programs for 3-4 years? And, if we are to agree that the 5 is the most complicated role at UConn, why would we think that Raegan would fit in so quickly? I am certainly not suggesting someone come in as fully integrated into the system (I pointed out on the other thread that, having previously been in the ND system Amirah Abdul-Rahim would have some familiarity with UConn's offense as well). But another big of even reasonable talent is desirable. We all hoped in vain that Amari would get up to that speed. There are lots of others who can do that.
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Post by linkster on Apr 24, 2024 18:02:17 GMT -5
I think you are overstating that. UConn can use a 4/5 who "get it" and can step right into the rotation. I don't think there are "lots" who fit. Stats are a big part but Geno passes over a lot of great basketball players for other reasons. That's true. It took Dorka the better part of a year to learn the system. But she was expected to be a 5. If we assume Sarah might get competitive minutes out of high school, with no advanced experience in more complicated schemes, why not players who've been around college programs for 3-4 years? And, if we are to agree that the 5 is the most complicated role at UConn, why would we think that Raegan would fit in so quickly? I am certainly not suggesting someone come in as fully integrated into the system (I pointed out on the other thread that, having previously been in the ND system Amirah Abdul-Rahim would have some familiarity with UConn's offense as well). But another big of even reasonable talent is desirable. We all hoped in vain that Amari would get up to that speed. There are lots of others who can do that. My opinion of Beers is based on hearsay. I believe heresay when it comes from the coaches and look for some salt when it's someone else. If Natalie Butler had led the country in rebounding for her first 3 years at George Mason UConn fans would be screaming for Geno to sign her.
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Post by rvwsleep on Apr 24, 2024 18:24:01 GMT -5
More hearsay.
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Post by mdoggie on Apr 24, 2024 18:28:07 GMT -5
If the goal is to get WNBA ready, final 4 or beyond, be coached by a legend and spend a few years in the basketball capital then the answer is clear.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 24, 2024 18:42:40 GMT -5
If the goal is to get WNBA ready, final 4 or beyond, be coached by a legend and spend a few years in the basketball capital then the answer is clear. Again...then why did, say, Aliyah Boston--a New England homie--go elsewhere. Clera Toomey, etc. etc. etc. How can UCLA get such great players (top 2 high school players of 2022) when its coach and post-season track record are so suspect? How did Southern Cal, with no track record, convince an incredible player (#1 last year) to go there? It came down to 3 schools: Southern Cal, South Carolina, and Stanford. Odds are pretty decent that if she had gone to South Carolina, she would have won the championship this year. Maybe true too at Stanford, since they had a great front court and a poor backcourt. Yet she chose Southern Cal, and her year ended with her crying. Honestly, I think it's a bit shortsighted to stress this to the exclusion of other possibilities when empirically it doesn't play out. Some go to UConn. A lot go elsewhere.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 24, 2024 18:48:33 GMT -5
That's true. It took Dorka the better part of a year to learn the system. But she was expected to be a 5. If we assume Sarah might get competitive minutes out of high school, with no advanced experience in more complicated schemes, why not players who've been around college programs for 3-4 years? And, if we are to agree that the 5 is the most complicated role at UConn, why would we think that Raegan would fit in so quickly? I am certainly not suggesting someone come in as fully integrated into the system (I pointed out on the other thread that, having previously been in the ND system Amirah Abdul-Rahim would have some familiarity with UConn's offense as well). But another big of even reasonable talent is desirable. We all hoped in vain that Amari would get up to that speed. There are lots of others who can do that. My opinion of Beers is based on hearsay. I believe heresay when it comes from the coaches and look for some salt when it's someone else. If Natalie Butler had led the country in rebounding for her first 3 years at George Mason UConn fans would be screaming for Geno to sign her. Not sure what your point is (which may be my fault as you're always so clear). But when Geno originally signed Natalie out of Georgetown, he said she was going to be a "game changer." He was convinced she was the next Stef.
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Post by mdoggie on Apr 24, 2024 18:58:16 GMT -5
If the goal is to get WNBA ready, final 4 or beyond, be coached by a legend and spend a few years in the basketball capital then the answer is clear. Again...then why did, say, Aliyah Boston--a New England homie--go elsewhere. Clera Toomey, etc. etc. etc. How can UCLA get such great players (top 2 high school players of 2022) when its coach and post-season track record are so suspect? How did Southern Cal, with no track record, convince an incredible player (#1 last year) to go there? Honestly, I think it's a bit shortsighted to stress this to the exclusion of other possibilities when empirically it doesn't play out. Some go to UConn. A lot go elsewhere. I think Bostons family was impressed by Dawn and the work she did with Wilson. Also being a black female coach may have played a role. Toomey, I believe her family already had a connection with the state of NC and she may even golf for the university( don’t quote me on that) UCLA, have you seen that campus or even the surrounding area? Plus a top notch education. Easy sell. Juju and USC, her family has a strong history in the LA community, she was never going anywhere else. Plus there is no better location for NIL and branding than tinsel town. Those are my opinions and I’m sticking too it.
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Post by bulkey on Apr 24, 2024 19:04:00 GMT -5
Again...then why did, say, Aliyah Boston--a New England homie--go elsewhere. Clera Toomey, etc. etc. etc. How can UCLA get such great players (top 2 high school players of 2022) when its coach and post-season track record are so suspect? How did Southern Cal, with no track record, convince an incredible player (#1 last year) to go there? Honestly, I think it's a bit shortsighted to stress this to the exclusion of other possibilities when empirically it doesn't play out. Some go to UConn. A lot go elsewhere. I think Bostons family was impressed by Dawn and the work she did with Wilson. Also being a black female coach may have played a role. Toomey, I believe her family already had a connection with the state of NC and she may even golf for the university( don’t quote me on that) UCLA, have you seen that campus or even the surrounding area? Plus a top notch education. Easy sell. Juju and USC, her family has a strong history in the LA community, she was never going anywhere else. Plus there is no better location for NIL and branding than tinsel town. Those are my opinions and I’m sticking too it. Well, thank you so very much: you're working very hard to prove my point. There are contingencies to decisions that may well transcend the question of best shot at a title. I so very much hope--if I were religious, I might even pray--that Raegan comes to UConn. But do you think she chose Oregon State because she thought it was the best place for her to win a championship?
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Post by mdoggie on Apr 24, 2024 19:16:55 GMT -5
I think Bostons family was impressed by Dawn and the work she did with Wilson. Also being a black female coach may have played a role. Toomey, I believe her family already had a connection with the state of NC and she may even golf for the university( don’t quote me on that) UCLA, have you seen that campus or even the surrounding area? Plus a top notch education. Easy sell. Juju and USC, her family has a strong history in the LA community, she was never going anywhere else. Plus there is no better location for NIL and branding than tinsel town. Those are my opinions and I’m sticking too it. Well, thank you so very much: you're working very hard to prove my point. There are contingencies to decisions that may well transcend the question of best shot at a title. I so very much hope--if I were religious, I might even pray--that Raegan comes to UConn. But do you think she chose Oregon State because she thought it was the best place for her to win a championship? Point taken. I hope I answered your original question to the best of my ability. None of the reason stated for the players you asked about would apply to Beers or Oklahoma.
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Post by vtcwbuff on Apr 24, 2024 19:31:04 GMT -5
I'd bet it's more about someone trying to diswade a player from going somewhere and using politics as a reason . But, anyone that doesn't think politics are involved in these decisions are living in a dream world. Frankly, why a women would want to be in a certain state , considering today's state of access to women's health care and it's denial is a mystery to me. While I might agree with your political sentiments, we should not go further in this direction. The point is that we welcome all players--and all students!--regardless of their political views. Whether they welcome UConn because of their political views is entirely their business. Despite these tendentious claims on twitter, I just haven't seen any Husky fan express anything remotely like a political judgment of Reagan--or of any other WCBB player. I am 100% confident that politics is the last thing on the minds of recruits considering UConn. If it is, maybe they aren't UConn material. UConn is about basketball and winning.
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Post by linkster on Apr 24, 2024 19:42:29 GMT -5
My opinion of Beers is based on hearsay. I believe heresay when it comes from the coaches and look for some salt when it's someone else. If Natalie Butler had led the country in rebounding for her first 3 years at George Mason UConn fans would be screaming for Geno to sign her. Not sure what your point is (which may be my fault as you're always so clear). But when Geno originally signed Natalie out of Georgetown, he said she was going to be a "game changer." He was convinced she was the next Stef. So even Geno, who saw Butler play live, couldn't predict accurately and yet we continue to make judgements based on little more than a social media post by someone who may be the player's mother for all we know. LOL I'm not sure what my point was either. I think I spend too much time on TOB. I don't even sign in much so that I can't respond to the idiot posts that say, based solely on a tweet from an unknown person about a HS player, " She is a 'must get' ". My guess, and I mean guess, is that Geno has left 2 spots open for a reason. Maybe he has had two players in mind for a while or maybe he didn't like any of the options enough. Why are so many so impatient? I've read " Geno better hurry and sign someone or else they'll all be gone". I think there's still 3 weeks for players to enter the portal and the rest of the summer to sign. Maybe Betts will become available. Or Miles. And even if both moved to Storrs someone would want more. And it isn't even May yet.
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